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Oct 27, 2020 at 7:33 AM Post #51,212 of 101,132
Friends at head-fi, here's my take on the new LZ A7 from LZ HiFi Audio.

-A natural sounding earphones of epic proportions!


You can check them out at the link below...
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/chinese-asian-brand-iem-info-thread.820747/post-15941125


Enjoy! :ksc75smile:

-Clear

thanks for the review, much appreciated that you also compared it with the ol' MT100. so basically the A7 is in similar signature to the MT100 but with more flexibility in tuning? can the MT100 reach the tuning capabilities of the A7 with EQing? or it also (the tuning filters of A7) make changes in soundstage, distance, positioning of sound too?
 
Oct 27, 2020 at 8:33 AM Post #51,213 of 101,132
thanks for the review, much appreciated that you also compared it with the ol' MT100. so basically the A7 is in similar signature to the MT100 but with more flexibility in tuning? can the MT100 reach the tuning capabilities of the A7 with EQing? or it also (the tuning filters of A7) make changes in soundstage, distance, positioning of sound too?
You can EQ the MT100 to sound slightly better if needed, but they can not reach the lower bass or the higher treble the A7 can dish out, since the A7 has piezo tweeters and the lower bass with its liquid crystal polymer DD can handle more after comparing both myself. Also, the advantage with the filters and pop/monitor switch does make it possible for the changes in soundstage, distance and positioning, too. I can also say that if the MT100 were to sell for the same price as the A7 today, the better buy will definitely be the A7, no doubt about it.
 
Oct 27, 2020 at 8:47 AM Post #51,214 of 101,132
You can EQ the MT100 to sound slightly better if needed, but they can not reach the lower bass or the higher treble the A7 can dish out, since the A7 has piezo tweeters and the lower bass with its liquid crystal polymer DD can handle more after comparing both myself. Also, the advantage with the filters and pop/monitor switch does make it possible for the changes in soundstage, distance and positioning, too. I can also say that if the MT100 were to sell for the same price as the A7 today, the better buy will definitely be the A7, no doubt about it.

I agree with you and I also feel that the A7 has superior separation (more airy sounding), better timbre and better resolution. That being said the MT100 are sleepers and haven't got enough credit imo.

The guy who was looking for neutral sounding IEM's a few posts up should definitely consider them.
 
Oct 27, 2020 at 8:56 AM Post #51,215 of 101,132
Regarding the recent interest in the Smabat Black Bat, their other IEM, the NCO, which also has a Graphene driver, 8mm, is more balanced and neutral. Bass is beautifully textured and deep, mids are not recessed, treble is extended and airy. Lovely soundstage as well and fast response. This graph does illustrate that although it says nothing about timbre, soundstage and detail. I feel it is the finest single DD that I have heard. Nicely constructed and very comfortable to wear, they are tiny!
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Oct 27, 2020 at 9:30 AM Post #51,216 of 101,132
I agree with you and I also feel that the A7 has superior separation (more airy sounding), better timbre and better resolution. That being said the MT100 are sleepers and haven't got enough credit imo.

The guy who was looking for neutral sounding IEM's a few posts up should definitely consider them.
+1 If anyone's looking for a simple balanced pristine signature with no added tuning or gadgets, just go for the MT100's for their lower price. I will never depart from mine.
But, anyone else can still get them at the links below...
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32968205024.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32920652289.html
 
Oct 27, 2020 at 10:40 AM Post #51,217 of 101,132
the advantage with the filters and pop/monitor switch does make it possible for the changes in soundstage, distance and positioning, too.

this is what i need to know. if it changes those aspects too, then the A7 would be a worthy buy for me

I agree with you and I also feel that the A7 has superior separation (more airy sounding), better timbre and better resolution. That being said the MT100 are sleepers and haven't got enough credit imo.

The guy who was looking for neutral sounding IEM's a few posts up should definitely consider them.

indeed, i really happy i decided to buy the MT100 too. if i were to describe neutral sounding, there's no better explanation than the MT100. i would keep it forever.

buut... you both gave me a new target to compliment it now: the A7 :ksc75smile:
 
Oct 27, 2020 at 11:25 AM Post #51,218 of 101,132
Regarding the recent interest in the Smabat Black Bat, their other IEM, the NCO, which also has a Graphene driver, 8mm, is more balanced and neutral. Bass is beautifully textured and deep, mids are not recessed, treble is extended and airy. Lovely soundstage as well and fast response. This graph does illustrate that although it says nothing about timbre, soundstage and detail. I feel it is the finest single DD that I have heard. Nicely constructed and very comfortable to wear, they are tiny!
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Damn this Marks and Spencer clearance Sherry..... Pedro Ximenez. The Black Bat MMCX shell is identical to the Tiandirenhe TD06 QDC shell that I have. They sound the same too. My guess will be, the Open Heart Resin Bass IEM is the same shell and the same driver as the Black Bat and the Tiandienhe. Paid £39 for the Black Bat, and the soon to be delivered, Open Heart Resin MMCX will be the exactly same shell. The Tiandirenhe sounds just as good as the Black Bat, has a good cable and is nearly half the price. It has a Big Bass, Boom, Boom. My educated guess is the Open Heart Resin MMCX will be the same. £23 is good for the Open Heart Resin and £23 the Tiandirenhe TDO6. £39.00 not so good for the Black Bat. I got the Tiandirenhe TD06 with tuning filters, and a good cable, which gives it the edge so far.
Again my guess is the Smabat NCO will be better overall.
 
Oct 27, 2020 at 11:35 AM Post #51,219 of 101,132
Damn this Marks and Spencer clearance Sherry..... Pedro Ximenez. The Black Bat MMCX shell is identical to the Tiandirenhe TD06 QDC shell that I have. They sound the same too. My guess will be, the Open Heart Resin Bass IEM is the same shell and the same driver as the Black Bat and the Tiandienhe. Paid £39 for the Black Bat, and the soon to be delivered, Open Heart Resin MMCX will be the exactly same shell. The Tiandirenhe sounds just as good as the Black Bat, has a good cable and is nearly half the price. It has a Big Bass, Boom, Boom. My educated guess is the Open Heart Resin MMCX will be the same. £23 is good for the Open Heart Resin and £23 the Tiandirenhe TDO6. £39.00 not so good for the Black Bat. I got the Tiandirenhe TD06 with tuning filters, and a good cable, which gives it the edge so far.
Again my guess is the Smabat NCO will be better overall.
I'm finding the bass on the NCO very natural, very much in the manner of a transmission line speaker, which was the inspiration for the Maze system which Smabat uses. This tends to free up the rest of the frequency range and results in a very well balanced profile.
 
Oct 27, 2020 at 11:35 AM Post #51,220 of 101,132
I agree with you and I also feel that the A7 has superior separation (more airy sounding), better timbre and better resolution. That being said the MT100 are sleepers and haven't got enough credit imo.

The guy who was looking for neutral sounding IEM's a few posts up should definitely consider them.
I have the nm2+ and really like them. How do the a7 compare in details, speed and soundstage? Can the a7 sound as realistic as the nm2+ aswell since that iem is a single dd?
 
Oct 27, 2020 at 11:42 AM Post #51,221 of 101,132
I'm finding the bass on the NCO very natural, very much in the manner of a transmission line speaker, which was the inspiration for the Maze system which Smabat uses. This tends to free up the rest of the frequency range and results in a very well balanced profile.

I'm beginning to get it. The real Mcoy is the NCO. But people want a headbanger and the Smabat Black Bat, The Tiandirenhe TD06 and the Open Heart Resin MMCX are headbanger, OEM, deafness causers.
 
Oct 27, 2020 at 11:55 AM Post #51,222 of 101,132
Oct 27, 2020 at 12:05 PM Post #51,223 of 101,132
So what does everyone have planned for 11/11?

After much consideration, I've decided to spring for the Audiosense T300. Neutral signature + all BAs + isolation? Sounds good to me :)
 
Oct 27, 2020 at 12:08 PM Post #51,224 of 101,132
So what does everyone have planned for 11/11?

After much consideration, I've decided to spring for the Audiosense T300. Neutral signature + all BAs + isolation? Sounds good to me :)

Have you checked the audiosense thread? Iirc the T260 was better received than the T300. T300 has a downward sloping FR like many Westones.

Audiosense sent me their FR measurements, I asked for them on AE.

T260
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T300
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Oct 27, 2020 at 12:09 PM Post #51,225 of 101,132
So what does everyone have planned for 11/11?

After much consideration, I've decided to spring for the Audiosense T300. Neutral signature + all BAs + isolation? Sounds good to me :)
Probably Clairvoyance if the price drops close enough to 500€.
 

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