The discovery thread!
Sep 20, 2019 at 3:57 PM Post #44,011 of 100,638
And then there is the translation problem to though. I always question tfz products because sometimes the English translation will say graphene one place and diamond in another or something else in another. The tfz no.3 says it's a diamond driver.... But who really knows?

And now I'm seeing these carbon nanotube, berrylium, and "biological/cotton" (Tri i4 for instance) drivers that don't seem to have the right name either. That one elsewhere says it's Al/Mg....

At least with BA drivers you can see that they are there on most builds.

that reminds me of that new Shuoer Tape electrostatic IEM

like, how do we even tell that its really electrostatic? is it just some translation error too?

in the end, its pointless to worry about stuff like that (unless someone wants to go on a crusade and buy all chi-fi IEMs, disassemble them and check if all the claimed configs are correct, more power to them). I will nerd out on specs and such, but ultimately it all comes down to sound.
 
Sep 20, 2019 at 4:04 PM Post #44,012 of 100,638
that reminds me of that new Shuoer Tape electrostatic IEM

like, how do we even tell that its really electrostatic? is it just some translation error too?

in the end, its pointless to worry about stuff like that (unless someone wants to go on a crusade and buy all chi-fi IEMs, disassemble them and check if all the claimed configs are correct, more power to them). I will nerd out on specs and such, but ultimately it all comes down to sound.
I'm going to guess all the sets that use these Estat drivers will show them off like BAs in translucent housing.... That's not too say they couldn't be fake or something but at least we'll probably have them in plain sight...

Exciting to see how quickly China magically has that technology now and it's not just Sonion... I'm assuming it'll be all over China and Knowles will have something similar soon too....
 
Sep 20, 2019 at 4:29 PM Post #44,013 of 100,638
I'm going to guess all the sets that use these Estat drivers will show them off like BAs in translucent housing.... That's not too say they couldn't be fake or something but at least we'll probably have them in plain sight...

Exciting to see how quickly China magically has that technology now and it's not just Sonion... I'm assuming it'll be all over China and Knowles will have something similar soon too....

this was the IEM I mentioned, no way to tell what kind of drivers are even inside them.

and doesn't look like the typical estat BA, seems like their own design?

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Sep 20, 2019 at 4:31 PM Post #44,014 of 100,638
Can anyone provide me an Ali link to the shuoer sets? I can't find them and they aren't yet on shuoers website yet...
 
Sep 20, 2019 at 4:40 PM Post #44,015 of 100,638
It is easy to assume Chinese manufacturer is gonna cut corners. I mean it is more attractive to say your using 4 BAs instead of 3 or even 2 right? The honest truth is. There is simply too much competition among audio houses now a days to dupe anyone. Don't know if you guys have been keeping track of just how many new hybrids are out in the market now a days but hybrids are the new norm now you notice this? There are less and less single dynamics now a days. Can you guys imagine if there was such a thing as shutting down a few BAs to make it look like you have extra drivers. Lol. I wouldnt worry much about this.

Chifi manufacturers arent out to dupe anyone. Sure they have copied some designs but what they learned from manufacturing these earphones are the movement we see today.

They are getting better and better at it. And isn't this what we really want?

You are too trusting. Logitech is a good company, right? They have competition and it's a healthy marketplace, right? Doesn't stop them from putting fake tweeters in speakers like the Z333. Or other companies:

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-...-fake-tweeter-experiences-hifi-equipment.html

I think the "more must be better" spec is a big reason why we see some of the designs that our there... why we have things like this:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32929300978.html

Asking questions about what's inside products is an important piece of marketplace competition, an essential part of the pressure that customers can put on producers to make better products and help the best products to succeed in the marketplace. I don't believe in taking anyone's word for granted. Other industries have benefited greatly from detailed reviews that include teardowns and comprehensive analysis. For instance the computer power supply industry, where Deer used to make power supplies like this:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/blog/2007/08/18/allied-al-d500exp-500w-power-supply/

Deer has improved (not great, but better):

http://www.jonnyguru.com/blog/2018/07/16/apexgaming-ag-650m-650w-power-supply/

In the audio space, noaudiophile has been doing some great speaker reviews, everything from cheap, to the cutting edge (integrated DSP corrected), to the yesteryear:

http://noaudiophile.com/Cyber_Acoustics_CA-3602/

http://noaudiophile.com/Vanatoo_Transparent_One/

http://noaudiophile.com/Bose_901/

It'd be nice to have sites like this in the headphone space, but we're lacking in that regard, and so the market pressure is also lacking.
 
Sep 20, 2019 at 5:03 PM Post #44,016 of 100,638
Sep 20, 2019 at 5:09 PM Post #44,017 of 100,638
Model is called Pink lady even though they are purple. You would figure they would have an actual pink color. They are available in 2 different colors all black and the purple you see here. I got a purple. Got too many black ones. They retail for $120. I can see these being on sale during 11/11 for $100ish.

Packaging is nothing spectacular but comes with a very feminine make up case like clam shell.
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It is obvious they are marketing the phone for the ladies. Will post some thoughts on them tonight.

I think these guys are onto something. Not enough marketing in the earphone game for the ladies. Not common I should say.
I am looking for a iem for my lady maybe this one will become it or the new fearless dd
 
Sep 20, 2019 at 9:33 PM Post #44,018 of 100,638
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Sep 20, 2019 at 10:31 PM Post #44,019 of 100,638
I am looking for a iem for my lady maybe this one will become it or the new fearless dd
New fearless DD... Pray tell more!
 
Sep 20, 2019 at 10:45 PM Post #44,020 of 100,638
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Sep 20, 2019 at 11:51 PM Post #44,022 of 100,638
I am really crappy in writing impressions so I'll leave it to Hawaiibadboy to review them, who IMHO is the best reviewer around. Well I trust him. But I have to say so far it's my best US108 (Group purchase price) otherwise US225 and even at that original price I would gladly say TAKE MY MONEY!!!!
 
Sep 21, 2019 at 12:28 AM Post #44,023 of 100,638

https://www.facebook.com/brainwavza...k8MQIdiYnHm4Kzzo5vAGbhg5ZLZfl7wtr1Emne9&ifg=1

https://www.brainwavzaudio.com/collections/earphones/products/hex-triple-balanced-armature-earphones



Brainwavz Audio just released a triple driver Knowles model at $99.50. Called the Brainwavz Hex.
Seems an okay pricing for 3 knowles drivers. Anyone tried their IEMs before? (I've tried their headphones but no experience with their IEMs).

The B400 is great. Really well tuned.
 
Sep 21, 2019 at 2:50 AM Post #44,024 of 100,638
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The upcoming Shozy Form 1.1 is here!
It should be released for pre-order within the next 2 weeks. Be-coated DD + 1 BA hybrid.

First impressions:
Really nice cable. It's like a miniature paracord headphone cable.
Nice fit. Lots of tip choices.
Sound is fast and detailed, especially for the sub-$100 USD price tag (price hasn't been announced yet)
Warm sound, with an interesting mix of laid back yet elevated treble. There's some metallic-feel to it but it's not harsh either. Bass has a little punch to it and there's some subbass extension.
Soundstage is rather narrow though, but seems to handle busy tracks well given the driver speed.

Just first impressions. Will post full review later.

Thanks to Linsoul for the preview unit!
 
Sep 21, 2019 at 3:01 AM Post #44,025 of 100,638
Unboxing Shuoer TAPE I haven't listened to them yet but with a packaging like that and excellent build I'll gladly accept even if the electrostatic driver is fake!!!!
Where do you purchase these from?
 

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