A few things need explanation:
1. Aspire5550 has no information on his/her profile page.
2. Aspire5550 cannot be contacted via PM.
As to the BVSP notice:
3. Why does an official statement refer to XXXX? What is the value of going against XXXX?
4. It is claimed that the "inner design of the XXXX is totally different from the dmg", that they don't sound the same but they look similar. Well, this could be any two earphones.
As to Aspire5550's statements:
5. It is claimed that BVSP's dmg contains Knowles drivers, a fact that cannot be proven or disclosed as per contract - but it is disclosed right here...which, if true, constitutes a breach of this contract.
6. As to the inner life of the XXXX: BVSP "boss" "believes" that XXXX uses cheap domestic drivers. Why doesn't he open one up - something that is unheard of in this business.
7. NiceHCK m6 is allegedly not the same as BVSP dmg. Fine, that's
what is expected!
8. The Hi Res certificate of the dmg or any other earphone is marketing only.
Caution is advised when dealing with such mysterious claims by mysterious claimants.
I was told the m6 is an ODM product by a renowned manufacturer
- true or not.
Solution: give
@Dsnuts a sturdy nutcracker and a camera, he has both models
.
Good that you bring this up, we need more people like this who question everything that is suspicious and not just accept everything other people say on the internet.
1, I am more of a lurker on this forum and I rarely post, I only post when I feel like it. Hence you can see that I joined since 2015 but do not have much comments.
2. I am not sure what happened about not being able to be reached through PMs, as I have never received any pm's from other people unless I have started the pm myself. My recent PMs were with
@Dsnuts ,
@Podster ,
@darkwing ,
@hakuzen ,
@antdroid @B9Scrambler . (At least these people can testify that I have had some chat with them through PM)
3. I actually fully agree with you that I myself do find it weird that they use XXXX to refer to the M6. Throughout my conversation, i keep referring the "NICEHCK M6" while he just mention "clone".
4. no comment, they could very possibly have the same inner design/construction , no comment on this until someone is able to prove it.
5. you got this mistaken. I asked Gary if there's any prove he can give me regarding the BGVP drivers were made by knowles, He said the prove cannot be disclosed (which I assumed is the contract between knowles and BGVP), that Gary cannot disclose. (I actually mentioned this in another comment of mine, here
At this point of time, i am just trying to gather and share BGVP's side of the story . In no way I can 100% be sure that BGVP's gary or NICEHCK's jim is correct. We as the consumers just have to decide with our ears.
I just asked him and Gary said if this OEM really make BGVP, please ask them to show some prove or contract that they are infact making BGVP.
He also did say that there should be a difference because of the difference in the drivers used ( one is using knowles custom-made driver while one is using local chinese made driver), He highly recommend someone to do a teardown comparison.
and here
No, he didn't mention about knowles prevent BGVP from using their name. He just mentioned that BGVP didn't use knowles' name because they slapped on the bgvp branding on the drivers. What he cannot show, is the prove that these BGVP drivers are made by knowles, (I think he meant that he cannot show me the contract between BGVP and knowles.)
Let me give you the exact conversation( after I translate it to english)
Me: Gary , is BGVP's driver made by knowles?
G: yes, it is a custom order from knowles.
Me: But there is no knowles logo on the BA driver?
G: Yes, because we slapped on our BGVP logo instead. That's why we didn't mention about knowles in our promotion material.
Me; Is there anything that can prove that the drivers are made by knowles?
G: This involves some non-disclosure agreement, so I am unable to provide it to you. Our future products will mention about knowles drivers. Like I said previously, I suggest you guys to do a teardown comparison.
6. No comment on this, I can't possibly take a knife to ask him to do the teardown.
7,8 no comment.
Again, NONE of the thing that I posted is written by me( i refer to the pictures and the documents). I am not a reviewer and I don't sell any products. I have 0 gain from this and I have 0 bias. I used my own personal time to contact BGVP and translate the conversation into a post and also uploaded the picture by transferring from my wechat/taobao app.
None of you have to listen to what I said, I am just a nobody who is interested in this topic regarding M6 and DMG.
@Otto Motor and
@Dsnuts have gotten one side of the story from the seller of M6 while I simply got the other side of the story from the boss of BGVP. You can try to contact the boss yourself by going to the taobao website and find this seller :
BGVP电声. Have a chat with him yourself if you can type and read chinese.
While I appreciate constructive discussion on this, I will say that I do not enjoy the tone that
@Otto Motor used while you try to get more information. You can refer me as someone new /inexperienced to the forum but when you say mysterious claimant... Hmm, let's just say I don't appreciate that cause it sounds to me that you are saying i am a suspicious character giving false claims. Maybe i am just too sensitive as it has been a long day for me.
Lastly, I agree that someone should go ahead and crack these two earphones up to do a comparison.
If the M6 sounds as good as the DMG I'm all for it and of course to me they both look very nice. Love my DMG and probably don't need the M6 however (Nice is making a killer offer at 100 bones) Pod does not have a nice green iem outside of my ZS6's
In the meantime I'm having an "Extreme Plana-Mo" day here at the Ponderosa
The word Discovery covers a lot of territory my fellow Head-Fier's
If someone can help me, it will be much apreciated!
