Redcarmoose
Headphoneus Supremus
But......in China Imitation is the sincerest form of greed.
Yes, agreed, I don't believe in this either - BUT some earphones may come with the completely wrong-impedance cable - such as the NiceHCK EP35.
And dramatically different cable impedances [= output impedance] also alter the frequency responses - which can be measured and displayed in superimposed graphs.
Therefore, cable rolling statements should be substantiated with FR graphs. On the other hand, impedance is independent of cable cost and looks (e.g. braided). Therefore, a cheap cable may sound better than a very expensive cable - or there is no difference at all. Promoting expensive cables only is a first indication of a snake-oil refinery. In any case, adding a $80 cable to a $100 earphone is cost-prohibitive. It is like dressing a horse in lingerie. One should be better off with a $180 earphone.
This is a case of vendors on the express chewing off more than they can chew. I bet realistically they probably had a handful of DM6s. 11.11 day comes and people are trying to get a better deal and they are overwhelmed with orders.
I am actually encouraged with the sudden popularity of the DM6. This will only mean better earphones to come from the company and you bet they will come out with even better offerings.
Penon Audio has a few DM6 in stock and ready for shipment, but limited color choices. (red/blue). i nabbed the last green one!Yeah, that's what I've learned. Poor practice, I prefer getting the truth, no matter what.
The company announced on their Facebook page they are stopping new orders for 45 days to be able to deliver previous orders on time.
Whether it will actually look like that seems not confirmed but if they are the new dynamic flagship above the Kanas they are very interesting and are one at the top of my list to watch and perhaps try out.
3 different cables ... one silver (supposedly pure) and two SPC all from AliExp.. tried on the NCM NC5 and all the cables made the iems sound different than the other. Source was the same, balanced out of the zx300. Do you think if i measured the FR all of them would be distinctly different as the sound?
Yes, agreed, I don't believe in this either - BUT some earphones may come with the completely wrong-impedance cable - such as the NiceHCK EP35.
And dramatically different cable impedances [= output impedance] also alter the frequency responses - which can be measured and displayed in superimposed graphs.
Therefore, cable rolling statements should be substantiated with FR graphs. On the other hand, impedance is independent of cable cost and looks (e.g. braided). Therefore, a cheap cable may sound better than a very expensive cable - or there is no difference at all. Promoting expensive cables only is a first indication of a snake-oil refinery. In any case, adding a $80 cable to a $100 earphone is cost-prohibitive. It is like dressing a horse in lingerie. One should be better off with a $180 earphone.
Should be put to test. If the sound changes with cable, it is likely [but not 100% sure] that the frequency response has changed, too. I have such a case with the NiceHCK EP35 and will run some measurements.3 different cables ... one silver (supposedly pure) and two SPC all from AliExp.. tried on the NCM NC5 and all the cables made the iems sound different than the other. Source was the same, balanced out of the zx300. Do you think if i measured the FR all of them would be distinctly different as the sound?
Are you really measuring with a 16bit/48kHz limited mp3? lol
Try a lossless 192kHz (or even 96kHz) at least. No DAC will throw a signal above 20kHz, from a 48kHz container. It just doesn't work like that.
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Here is a link to a post about the LG V series phones, their HiRes DAC, and basically some measurements/graphs showing the extension of the DAC. Basically, it was about finding out which player utilizes the HiRes DAC. And keep in mind that that's a PHONE we are talking about. lol I'm sure a DAP (especially a fancy one with DSD support) can show even better results (although 40kHz is the limit for any gear I believe, and hence the HiRes standart).
Whether all of this means we humans can catch a difference, it's a whole different topic, that I would be happy to share my thoughts about (especially on a forum such as this ), but this is not the best thread for that [hint: yes, it does make a difference].
I'll test it. I had ordered another (copper) cable. My m6 is still stuck in the Canadian postal/coastal defence. Which $20 SPC cable did you recommend - can't find a link.Hey I don't make this stuff up. Lol. Ya the stock cable is by far the most limiting factor on the M6 and not by a little either.
Thanks. I had never heard of 8 core or 16 core - is this another placebo?I am currently using this one because it is very cheap (TRN 8 cores):
https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-Mixed-Cable-For-TRN/1825606_32945443691.html
Maybe now I'll buy this one (16 cores):
https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...4-4mm-Plug-MMCX-2Pin/1825606_32954926911.html
or I'll wait for a better recommendation.
Thanks. I had never heard of 8 core or 16 core - is this another placebo?