The discovery thread!

[Dsnuts]

Ya there is a catch however. I don't know how many tips you got laying around but I would try whatever you got. eke2k6 is right you have to try other tips as the ones I am using now lessens the brightness on timbre. I can actually hear the difference.. So bottom line try other tips see what sounds best and burn away..

 

[staxxx]

Ordered the Isurus. If I don't like it, I'll use it for gaming. The EX600 comparison has me interested, because that's my favorite IEM ATM.

 

[Dsnuts]

Jupiterknight got the EX600 as well and he says he is also gonna do some A/B ing. Wait till you hear the isurus you will know I ain't B/S ing.. Lol!.

 

[GigaFi]

Bought a pair of 3580s at Target, realize that if I don't like em I can just return em.
 

 

[recca]

Thanks for the tip on both of these.  I needed something to use at work with my Samsung Galaxy S.  I ordered the Thermaltake from Amazon but they haven't arrived yet.  I needed something to listen today so I rolled by Walmart and found a pair of pink SHE3583 sitting off on what looked like the electronics clearance rack.  When I went to check out I asked for a price check...$5.00.  Sweeet.  Yes they're pink, but whatever.  $5.00!
 
Cost aside, I like these quite a bit.  Honestly I have almost no Headphone experience, I'm much more of a speaker guy, but I agree with all the other comments stated before.  Bass continuity is pretty nice.  I'm not used to this amount of sub-bas, but its pretty awesome.  Upper mids and low highs are clean.  Might be a little peaky around there, but I messed with the EQ on poweramp a bit and it sounds good to me. 
 
Thanks again for letting everyone know about these. 
 
 

 

[Selenium]

I should get mine soon so I'll be able to compare to the EX600 as well. The mids of the EX600 really aren't recessed, but the forward projection of the soundstage can make it seem like that.

 

[eke2k6]

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I should get mine soon so I'll be able to compare to the EX600 as well. The mids of the EX600 really aren't recessed, but the forward projection of the soundstage can make it seem like that.

I recommend not even listening to them with the stock tips when you get them
 
 
I can say for a fact that these sound better than the TF10. No ifs or buts. These are slightly more sibilant than the TF10, but the treble just sounds so natural on the Isurus and the mids are actually present. And pianos sound fantastic

 

[Dsnuts]

I wouldn't consider the EX600 to have anything really recessed but when I was listening in on both the Isurus has a thicker sounding mid section. Vocals was thinner sounding on the EX600. It is as if the mids was stretched out between the highs and the lows. I think the wider stage on the EX600 also leads to this mids sounding a bit thinner and when I say a bit I can tell it is just by a bit.. If any of you guys didn't have a dual 3.5 jack out or a 5 hub like I do. It will be difficult to tell.

 

[captouch]

Anyone know what Comply tips fit on the TT's?

 

[donedj]

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I recommend not even listening to them with the stock tips when you get them
 
 
I can say for a fact that these sound better than the TF10. No ifs or buts. These are slightly more sibilant than the TF10, but the treble just sounds so natural on the Isurus and the mids are actually present. And pianos sound fantastic

 
Are you sure the isurus sounds better than the TF10s?
What kind of music you tested these on for comparison?
I am still waiting for the Isurus to arrive to compare.

 

[eke2k6]

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Are you sure the isurus sounds better than the TF10s?
What kind of music you tested these on for comparison?
I am still waiting for the Isurus to arrive to compare.

All kinds. I think the TF10 was built with electronic genres in mind, and it excels there. For everything else, I vastly prefer the Isurus (with tips other than stock).

 

[GigaFi]

I'm not sure if it's sibilance or piercing highs I'm hearing but right out the box, the SHE3580s are incredibly painful to listening to.
 
Guess it's time to burn in.

 

[donedj]

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I'm not sure if it's sibilance or piercing highs I'm hearing but right out the box, the SHE3580s are incredibly painful to listening to.
 
Guess it's time to burn in.

I tried different tips to get the sound I am looking for out of these. The best ones that worked were the largest tips and the medium Sony hybrids, weird as they are different sizes but do give that nice deep base that these phones can actually produce.
 

 

[crinacle]

Whadya know, I actually owned the SHE3580. Go figure. Really interested in the AT remakes though, looks pretty cool to begin with.
 
Hey, no hate here but when are you going to settle on a "legendary" discovery? 

Y'know, budget headphones within the evergreen ranks of the Portapro, Superlux, CAL!, JVC etc. etc.

 

[Joe Bloggs]

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I'm not sure if it's sibilance or piercing highs I'm hearing but right out the box, the SHE3580s are incredibly painful to listening to.
 
Guess it's time to burn in.

 
Do you have a proper seal?  Do you hear good bass along with those piercing highs I assume you're describing?  If you do, your impression is actually pretty similar to mine. But I'm really sensitive to highs and most people who tried these don't think the highs are even forward, so signature preference plays a large role here.
 
It helps to get a better seal by pulling the ear back with one hand while pushing the bud in with the other hand.  But the best thing I've found for these buds is a custom EQ curve a la PiccoloNamek's tutorial.
 
 
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FWIW I'm uploading two versions of the Electri-Q EQ settings I'm using right now: my actual settings (with treble dips customized to my ear canal resonances) and one with the dips in the treble smoothed over (giving a general treble cut which doesn't sound as good to my ears but should work for most people)
 
My settings:<-click for file

 
Generic settings:<-click for file

 
edit: in order to load the presets, please use George Yohng's VST wrapper instead of foobar's foo_vst plugin to load the Electri-Q VST.
http://www.yohng.com/software/foobarvst.html
 
It runs just about any VST I use better than foo_vst and allows Electri-Q preset files to be loaded and saved properly.  Only drawback is it can only load one plugin at a time, you can still load other VST plugins using foo_vst.

 
With the custom settings dialled in in Electri-Q as a VST plugin running in foobar, these smoke the Ety ER-4P I had.  They become a punchier, more detailed, less sibilant version of the Etys... I'm glad that many people are liking the sound of the SHE3580 out of the box and some preferring them over much more expensive earphones, but I'm feeling like how Takumi's father in Initial D would feel if people heard that Takumi beat a Skyline GT-R (or Ferrari, or whatever) in his beater AE86 and bought stock AE86s and said they really like them.  The AE86 is a good car in its own right... but Takumi's custom did get an engine swap along with extensive hot rodding before racing the GT-R... if you get the reference

So if you're one of those who already likes the SHE3580 out of the box, wait till you try fiddling with the EQ...

I really should get my own EQ guide done and published here soon