[zazex]

  zazex, do you think that the 712 worth upgrading from the 702?

 
Yes - if you've got a solid AC powered amplifier, and listen to lossless files
(and or CD's/vinyl).
 
I'll note here that I recently picked up a new set of K702's, made in China -
the K702's I had about a year ago were made in Austria - and the new ones
(from memory) sound better to me than the older ones.  The build quality is
virtually identical, and they seem to have more bass, a softer yet fully detailed
high end, slightly less soundstage, and a more coherent, stable presentation all
around.  All for $225 or so.
 
What I'm suggesting is that the "new" K702 may be enough improvement for
many over the "old" K702,  
 
But still, the K712 outdoes even the new K702.  In a quite subtle way it's a
spectacular headphone.  As long as there's enough juice behind it IME.
An ALO National, JDS O2, or similar large portable just won't cut it with
the K712's.  Again, IME.

 

[headphones1999]

got it! thanks!

 

[drews]

My collection has settled down to:
 
Open
1. HD800
2. LCD 2.2
3. K712 Pro
Sold: T1, DT880/600, K701, K702, HD650, HD600, HD595, AD2000, AD900x, HE-4000, SA5000
 
Closed
1. TH600
2. P7
3. Momentum
Sold: DX1000, D7000, D5000, D2000, W3000anv, W1000x, A2000x, A900, M50, ESW9, T70, DT770/600, P5, PRO 900, M4U2, K550
 
IEMs
1. MDR-EX1000
2. MDR-EX7550
3. XBA-H3

 

[ssrock64]

 

Member since 2005 and less than 1000 posts? That's some impressive restraint.

 

[takato14]

  do you think that the 712 worth upgrading from the 702?

Absolutely not. The 712 ruins the neutrality of the 70x.

 

[drews]

  Absolutely not. The 712 ruins the neutrality of the 70x.

 
To each his own...  I disliked my K701 and K702 but I'm really happy with the K712 - at least we agree that the K712 is a different beast...

 

[elvergun]

  My collection has settled down to:
 
Open
1. HD800
2. LCD 2.2
3. K712 Pro
Sold: T1, DT880/600, K701, K702, HD650, HD600, HD595, AD2000, AD900x, HE-4000, SA5000
 
Closed
1. TH600
2. P7
3. Momentum
Sold: DX1000, D7000, D5000, D2000, W3000anv, W1000x, A2000x, A900, M50, ESW9, T70, DT770/600, P5, PRO 900, M4U2, K550
 
IEMs
1. MDR-EX1000
2. MDR-EX7550
3. XBA-H3

 
Your collection is very nice!!!!
 
 

 

[saab]

  Member since 2005 and less than 1000 posts? That's some impressive restraint.

 
What's wrong with that?

 

[elvergun]

   
What's wrong with that?

 
Haha...you post count indicates that there is something seriously wrong with you. 

 

[drews]

  Member since 2005 and less than 1000 posts? That's some impressive restraint.

 
I need to exercise further restraint, since it feels like 1 post = 1 headphone purchase. 

 
Drew

 

[saab]

   
Haha...you post count indicates that there is something seriously wrong with you. 

 
I wish it were that simple.   Actually took quote a bit of time away, back for a bit to check things out.

 

[takato14]

 

  Absolutely not. The 712 ruins the neutrality of the 70x.

 
To each his own...  I disliked my K701 and K702 but I'm really happy with the K712 - at least we agree that the K712 is a different beast...

Actually its the exact same headphone with a bass port opened in the back of the driver and a different headband strap. So no, not exactly a "different beast".

 

[kman1211]

Actually its the exact same headphone with a bass port opened in the back of the driver and a different headband strap. So no, not exactly a "different beast".

Actually the K712s bass port is closed.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/660408/reversible-akg-k701-bass-mod/15#post_9804589

 

[elvergun]

Actually its the exact same headphone with a bass port opened in the back of the driver and a different headband strap. So no, not exactly a "different beast".

Have you heard the K712?

 

[viralcow]

It's the pads.