[Oof Oink]

Yup, they're both different flavors of the same driver. Based on that the price-difference is not justifiable, then again manufacturers tend to overprice what they consider to be their flagship, it always happens this way, except for the EQ-5 lol. Manufacturers price based on flair, not performance lol.

Where does that leave the ever popular ER4? Same situation?

 

[Inks]

Where does that leave the ever popular ER4? Same situation?

Hmm well the ER4P is the same as HF series, even matching wise. You do pay for a replacable cable, now that may be worth paying more for...

 

[Pianist]

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He discusses what he meant in length on the first page of that article. Again, when he says they're "pretty much identical," he is referring to everything except sound, as he made quite clear with the above statement. Just like if I were to say that all HiFiMan orthos are identical, what would you think I meant? Sound wise, or aesthetics wise? Hopefully not the former...

 
But in this case, when the two measure nearly identically, one can surely mean the former. If Tyll meant that they look the same, then he should have clarified this by saying "pretty much identical looking." That statement of his wasn't clear.

 

[EraserXIV]

I feel so bad for this horse

 

[Oof Oink]

That statement of his wasn't clear.

I didn't think he could have made it more clear, having stated just before the statement in question, "sound signatures aside." The man even separated it with three dashes on either side, lol!

I feel so bad for this horse

This post made my night. Seriously.

 

[Pianist]

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Yup, they're both different flavors of the same driver. Based on that the price-difference is not justifiable, then again manufacturers tend to overprice what they consider to be their flagship, it always happens this way, except for the EQ-5 lol. Manufacturers price based on flair, not performance lol. 

 
Actually, the differences in the measurements of the two are so small that they easily fall within acceptable limits of production variations of the same model. Consider the following two AKG K701s for example - the measured differences between them are greater than those between RE262 and RE272:
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK701.pdf
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK701SampleB.pdf

 

[Mimouille]

In my personal opinion, trusting a graph over your own ears might be more objective but is also quite sad, I prefer to listen to music than to watch charts. and more importantly claiming you judge an iem without having listened to it, based on a chart, and that your opinion is more valid than someone who owns it is just arrogant and preposterous...and sounds like jealousy.

 

[rkyoto]

A small bach of RE600 has been released. Seems like the sound signatures are close to those of RE262/272.

 

[Pianist]

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I didn't think he could have made it more clear, having stated just before the statement in question, "sound signatures aside." The man even separated it with three dashes on either side, lol!

 
So you are saying that sound signature = sound quality, right? I always thought of sound signature as significant differences in frequency response only. I think it's a slippery concept though.

 

[Oof Oink]

A small bach of RE600 has been released. Seems like the sound signatures are close to those of RE262/272.

Hmm... Doesn't sound too enticing, I must admit. Any link(s) or source(s)?

 

[munchzilla]

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A small bach of RE600 has been released. Seems like the sound signatures are close to those of RE262/272.

More info please! been itching to hear this now! EXCITING NEWS!

 

[Oof Oink]

So you are saying that sound signature = sound quality, right? I always thought of sound signature as significant differences in frequency response only. I think it's a slippery concept though.

Tyll wrote the article. Not me.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but as I've come to to understand it, the frequency response reflects the sound signature that a particular headphone/earphone was tuned for, and is merely one aspect of sound quality.

 

[proedros]

oh GOD , it has started !!!!

my wallet and me are trembling
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A small bach of RE600 has been released. Seems like the sound signatures are close to those of RE262/272.

 

[rkyoto]

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Hmm... Doesn't sound too enticing, I must admit. Any link(s) or source(s)?

 
http://erji.net/read.php?tid=1458265

It's a small batch intended to raise money for charity. I haven't heared it myself. Anyway RE-600 would probably be available by the end of this month.

 

[Pianist]

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Tyll wrote the article. Not me.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but as I've come to to understand it, the frequency response reflects the sound signature that a particular headphone/earphone was tuned for, and is merely one aspect of sound quality.

 
Exactly, That's how I understand it as well. So what that means then is that Tyll was only saying that frequency response aside, the two are nearly identical. But then the frequency response of the two shows a 5 db difference at most, which is actually within acceptable production variation limits of some headphones of the same model. Yet, Tyll goes on to describe some pretty detailed differences between the two, making it seem as though they are quite different sounding when measurements clearly show that they are almost the same.