[jmills8]

Yeah, kinda buyers remorse after I got the kickers. Now I want the forte's.

Im not trying to say the Kicker is bad because its very good. The Forte has a bit more bottom , slight mid forwards and a bit more treble than the Kicker.

 

[jameswalker]

Im not trying to say the Kicker is bad because its very good. The Forte has a bit more bottom , slight mid forwards and a bit more treble than the Kicker.

But does that make it better? More fun? 

 

[jmills8]

But does that make it better? More fun? 

guess the kicker can be more laid back and fun but the Forte takes things to another level.

 

[jameswalker]

guess the kicker can be more laid back and fun but the Forte takes things to another level.

After vap's recent kicker review it was enough to swing me that way. Now I need to decide kicker vs forte now!!! This is an endless circular battle

 

[jameswalker]

Does anyone know how well the kickers (or other bravo) respond to spinfits? 
 
For the kicker, I will not be using foam as they will be reinserted many many times a day. 
 
I have other non bass IEM where I use foam but do not require frequent reinsertions. Like for example on the commute. 

 

[jmills8]

Does anyone know how well the kickers (or other bravo) respond to spinfits? 

For the kicker, I will not be using foam as they will be reinserted many many times a day. 

I have other non bass IEM where I use foam but do not require frequent reinsertions. Like for example on the commute. 

Seems you enjoy over thinking things.

 

[jameswalker]

Seems you enjoy over thinking things.

I certainly do Half the fun. 

 

[PsiCore]

How would you compare Westone W50 vs Aurisonics ASG-2.5?
I guess the 2.5 have better bass capabilities, right?
And what about the rest? They seem both to be more dark sounding IEMs?

 

[vapman]

Which cables are those?

Linum BaX
 
Forte has more & deeper bass huh?
 
The sub bass leaves a bit to be desired on the kicker so if you only are going to own one IEM the 90EX is still a safe bet , I wish I could say the Kicker has as much bass as the 2.5 but it almost does. there were a couple songs i've heard on the kicker that i didn't really hear the sub bass on and that made me sad but it doesn't mean the kicker is incapable of sub bass.
 

  How would you compare Westone W50 vs Aurisonics ASG-2.5?
I guess the 2.5 have better bass capabilities, right?
And what about the rest? They seem both to be more dark sounding IEMs?

 
I've heard a lot of westones and would not call a single one of them bassy. aren't they all BA?

 

[PsiCore]

 
 
I've heard a lot of westones and would not call a single one of them bassy. aren't they all BA?

 
Yes, they are, but BA doesn't mean they are not basshead IEMs -> i.e. Earsonics Velvet - 3BAs, but true bass monster with fantastic bass quality. The Velvets have more and better bass than my CIEM hybrids UM Merlins.

 

[vapman]

   
Yes, they are, but BA doesn't mean they are not basshead IEMs -> i.e. Earsonics Velvet - 3BAs, but true bass monster with fantastic bass quality. The Velvets have more and better bass than my CIEM hybrids UM Merlins.

Ah, totally - I didn't mean BA's couldn't be bassy, but Westone's BA's never were IMO
 
Westones I have been recommending to female singers who need to hear themselves loud & clear in the mix for ages.

 

[Const4nt1n3]

 
Rules of diminishing returns.
 
Just buy the best within your budget and then enjoy the music!
 
There is ALWAYS something better around but again, the differences are getting smaller and smaller once you get to a certain level. And the costs for the quality increase go up exponentially. On the other hand, there are always some great bargains to be made.
 
You will eventually upgrade in any case and try new things, so enjoy the ride and go step by step, that way you train your ears and understand all the changes better.
 
We are all in it for the fun!!
 
Cheers!

 
Very well said. That is indeed the right way to do it. However, when it comes to separating with hard earned cash, one always wants to know that there aren't any better alternatives around. It's an allusive concept, but all of us are chasing it.

 

[Koolpep]

  Ah, totally - I didn't mean BA's couldn't be bassy, but Westone's BA's never were IMO
 
Westones I have been recommending to female singers who need to hear themselves loud & clear in the mix for ages.

 
Hmm, I found the UMPro50 quite bassy...

 

[vapman]

   
Hmm, I found the UMPro50 quite bassy...

Never heard the UMPro50, only the Pro10 and Pro30.

 

[Const4nt1n3]

   
You, sir, not helping my case at all with your comments. Haha! However, the price will help to make up my mind as Kickers run for around 300 USD what is almost 4 times the price of XB90EX. I could get EX800ST AND XB90EX for the same price.
 
How's the base on XB90EX when listening to the low volume?

 
@vapman: In addition to XB90EX, how's the base on EX800ST when listening to the low volume?