The microphonics on the Er4P are limited to the upper part of the cable. So if shirt clip is used and considering they stick a it out of the ears, there should be almost no microphonics. Not being over the ear is a big reason I like er4p. Over the ear bothers me.

Quote: Originally Posted by nc8000 Yes that has happened to me twice over the years as well but add to that shipping cost to US and back again and it quickly adds up. Still cheaper than buying a new set though and amazing that they do it given that in both cases my phones were well out...

Quote: Originally Posted by nc8000 That would be uncomfortable as the microphone will virtually sit behind the ear. All other iem's I have/have had I hve used over and behind the ear and with the ER4 this mandatory or microphonics will kill you. With the ER4 when I use the shirt...

Looking at cnet's monster turbine review also, i'm ignoring all cnet headphone/earphone reviews.

I have no idea how Cnet could give them a 10.0 in performance......... kinda sad their headphone reviews are alll over the place when their TV reviews are by one person most of the time and very solid.

My er4p cable is broken from years of mis-use and daily wear. The earbuds are still fine. Are there any cheap 3rd party cables and/or is there an order form on etys website with cables?

Quote: Originally Posted by pez Just get a pair of ER4P's again since you love them, but then get something cheaper for your outdoor and careless activities. I use my earphones 30+ hours a week in outdoor/"careless" things. So its not really an option to be annoyed by 20 dollar...

ER4P cord quality is light years ahead of ER6i. I owned both. I do not even want to say what I have done with ER4Ps. But the cord held up amazing. You won't have a problem with the cord unless you are trying to break it.

So after almost 1.5-2 years? my E4Ps broke. I treated them like crap. I played basketball in them, ran, dropped them. Finally what broke the right earphone was a freak accident and a pretty hard slam down the the ground on hard cement. Think there is any way to fix them? The right one rattles...

how would u know there is leakage enless you asked some1 else? and i assume every1 listens to their headphones loud and IS going to suffer hearing loss eventually because of it (according to those government standards).

I like the way ety's fit compared to shures. The flanges take a while to 'break in' but after that I hardly know they are there and they never fall out.

with foam i get pretty amazing isolation, enough so that i cant hear my tv or my cell phone.

Quote: Originally Posted by germanium I find just the opposite That the cables on the E2's were nightmarishly fragile shorting out internally in short order. I had 3 different pair of these & all shorted out in a matter of about 2 weeks. The e2c used to have a cord problem but...

I have E2c (2x), er6i, and er4p. ER4p is more durable than er6i. ER6 has a VERY thin cord. I did use it to workout. E2c has a pretty thick cord. (overall build quality i'd put er4p over e2c though). I dislike the way e2c sounds compared to the Er6i. There is a noticeable difference between...

I got the ER4Ps a while back and the microphonics aren't even an issue for me(i wear the normal style and use shirt clip only because its a heavyish cable). People made it seem like rubbing the cable was going sound like an earthquake.

Quote: Originally Posted by ferraro25 Actually, "thin" would be a very good description of what I hear. I don't like it, it sounds "cheap" to me. Drums sound ridiculously light. Lack of body all around. I think he would like something like the bose "IEM".

Quote: Originally Posted by Azure If sales are just fine (as I imagine they are), there really isn't that much reason to. If they released a new headphone it would pretty much boost their sales no matter how slight the improvement.

looks like u could pull a truck with that cable

how much do you think it would cost you'all to get speaker setup that sound better than your headphones.

I dont feel I am getting all out of my music enless its at high volume. High volume+speakers=mad neighbors.

were do you live? are ety and shure both in the chicago suburbs?

Quote: Originally Posted by Jam_Master_J Where's the E4 army? E4=slightly out of price range enless im not looking hard enough :P

Quote: Originally Posted by Oistrakh I've been ignoring this forum for several months, can't believe people like bose now! and over headphones that cost 5x as much...... maybe some1 is crazy? for my tastes E2c>bose IE and i really hate the E2c sound (people say bose has a...

Quote: Originally Posted by Sean.Perrin Keep in mind that I took my pair back becuase they were just not for me. However, at least realise what you are trying before writing a review. These are not meant to compete with the E2s. THEY DON"T SEAL AT ALL AND PROVIDE NO ISOLATION...

I've used the bose IE the Shure E3c and the Ety ER6i. Out of the 3 I liked the ER6i's best by far because of sound and fit. The only thing I disliked was the cord is thin (but that doesn't matter much to me). I didn't listen to the bose IE very much because I knew i was going to return them...