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May 12, 2012 at 9:27 AM Post #20,971 of 42,298
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Indeed, I've never heard the T1 on anything else, but wow, it really knocked my socks off.
 
Have you ever used the K1000 output with the T1s? I seem to be having a slight issue with mine, or perhaps not. When plugged into the K1000 (4pin XLR) output, there is an enormous channel imbalance. Perhaps 90% right ear, 10% left ear. I'm wondering if perhaps that jack is only meant for the K1000s, and other phones will not behave normally or if something is up with my amp.
It can't be the cable or the phones, they are terminated in 4pin XLR, and with a XLR to 1/4" adapter, they play normally through the high and low impedance jacks just fine. So the cable and phones are clearly fine.
 
Any ideas?

 
Mine is the LE version so I don't have the K1000 output.
Have you tried the headphones in other amplifier with 4 pin XLR output? 
The first thing to check is the wiring of both connectors (headphones and amp). Here is the pinout scheme:
1 - left channel +
2 - left channel -
3 - right channel +
4 - right channel -
 
If they are not like that they will sound strange. That happened to me with a cable with 2 3pin XLR. I was getting sound but really strange so I open the cable connectors and realize the manufacturer screwed up. I re-solder them properly and everything was fine.
 
If the wiring looks fine then I would contact Jack.
 
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May 12, 2012 at 9:34 AM Post #20,972 of 42,298
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Mine is the LE version so I don't have the K1000 output.
Have you tried the headphones in other amplifier with 4 pin XLR output? 
The first thing to check is the wiring of both connectors (headphones and amp). Here is the pinout scheme:
1 - left channel +
2 - left channel -
3 - right channel +
4 - right channel -
 
If they are not like that they will sound strange. That happened to me with a cable with 2 3pin XLR. I was getting sound but really strange so I open the cable connectors and realize the manufacturer screwed up. I re-solder them properly and everything was fine.
 
If the wiring looks fine then I would contact Jack.

 
I don't have another amp with XLR out... but like I said, same headphone plugged into a 1/4th inch adapter (via that 4pin XLR termination) in the same amp, and different amps, sounds perfect.
 
I'm a bit slow with the wiring, where exactly would I be looking for this? 
 
No matter the case, I don't solder 
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. I would need professional help if that is the case.
I'll email Jack.
 
Thanks!
 
May 12, 2012 at 10:02 AM Post #20,973 of 42,298
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I don't have another amp with XLR out... but like I said, same headphone plugged into a 1/4th inch adapter (via that 4pin XLR termination) in the same amp, and different amps, sounds perfect.
 
I'm a bit slow with the wiring, where exactly would I be looking for this? 
 
No matter the case, I don't solder 
redface.gif
. I would need professional help if that is the case.
I'll email Jack.
 
Thanks!

 
You will need to open the connectors. The pins are numbered and you will need to check that the right wire is soldered to the right pin.
 
I understand what you mean about the adapter but for instance the Right - should be solder to the pin 4 and the Left - should be solder to the pin 2. If they are inverted you must likely will have a problem in balanced mode (not using the adapter) but when you go with the adapter both wires are routed to the same position in the TRS connector so it will work fine. That is why I was asking about trying the headphones in another amp with a 4 pin XLR output.
 
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May 12, 2012 at 10:17 AM Post #20,974 of 42,298
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You will need to open the connectors. The pins are numbered and you will need to check that the right wire is soldered to the right pin.
 
I understand what you mean about the adapter but for instance the Right - should be solder to the pin 4 and the Left - should be solder to the pin 2. If they are inverted you must likely will have a problem in balanced mode (not using the adapter) but when you go with the adapter both wires are routed to the same position in the TRS connector so it will work fine. That is why I was asking about trying the headphones in another amp with a 4 pin XLR output.

 
OK, I will check that tonight when I get home. In the meantime I have emailed Jack.
Thanks for the help!
 
May 12, 2012 at 12:30 PM Post #20,975 of 42,298
Have got the Fleetwood Mac Rumours album twin 45 on back order with my dealer, cant wait to get it and my modded mapletree phono stage!
 
Ears still a bit dodgy, getting better thankfully but I really like the NOS CV181 improvements over the Shuggy CV181, its early days yet but the NOS have a better tone, fantastic bass, though the Shuggies I would say are slightly smoother on top. The way the Mullard's bring out the bass guitar on Duran Duran's "Rio" is something special.
 
Current roll in the Woo5 is Taka 300B NOS Mullard CV181 and EML 5U4G mesh - very very nice combo.
 
May 12, 2012 at 2:08 PM Post #20,976 of 42,298
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Have got the Fleetwood Mac Rumours album twin 45 on back order with my dealer, cant wait to get it and my modded mapletree phono stage!
 
Ears still a bit dodgy, getting better thankfully but I really like the NOS CV181 improvements over the Shuggy CV181, its early days yet but the NOS have a better tone, fantastic bass, though the Shuggies I would say are slightly smoother on top. The way the Mullard's bring out the bass guitar on Duran Duran's "Rio" is something special.
 
Current roll in the Woo5 is Taka 300B NOS Mullard CV181 and EML 5U4G mesh - very very nice combo.

 
I bet that Rumours 45 will be a killer. I have all the FM albums from the Buckingham/Nick era on High-Rez files and they sound awesome!
 
What are those Taka 300B? How much are they?
Right now I have my EML 300B Mesh, NOS Mullard ECC32 and USF 596. Also very nice. Sometimrs I roll in some TS BG/RP 6F8G and are also great.
 
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May 12, 2012 at 4:21 PM Post #20,977 of 42,298
My WA2 arrived last week and I'm really enjoying it with the Senn HD600s. I want to try some different tubes and I've already ordered an RCA 6AS7G for cheap on eBay.
But before I go crazy I should ask you informed ones ...

Given a budget of no more than $100.00 what driver tube replacement would offer the greatest sonic change ? ... I've never experimented with tube rolling before so I'm really curious what this is all about and want a really big change from the stock JJ driver to hear the tube rolling difference.

Edit: Obligatory pic:

 
May 12, 2012 at 5:14 PM Post #20,978 of 42,298
Welcome, Warpkitty! No driver recommendations at this time but your amp is looking fabulous! And right at home next to the computer...
 
May 12, 2012 at 6:39 PM Post #20,979 of 42,298
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I bet that Rumours 45 will be a killer. I have all the FM albums from the Buckingham/Nick era on High-Rez files and they sound awesome!
 
What are those Taka 300B? How much are they?
Right now I have my EML 300B Mesh, NOS Mullard ECC32 and USF 596. Also very nice. Sometimrs I roll in some TS BG/RP 6F8G and are also great.


I'm running the exact same tubes as San Raal is on my WA5.  Takatsuki switched their production line on the 300B this month.  Should be around USD 1400 for a matched pair from the first production run (assuming vendors that stock it haven't marked it up), USD 2000 for current production.  I have not seen any reviews for the current production tube yet though.
 
May 12, 2012 at 8:25 PM Post #20,980 of 42,298
Wow! Are they that much better than EML or EAT?
 
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May 12, 2012 at 9:06 PM Post #20,981 of 42,298
I'll roll the EML meshes back in to compare once I get some more hours on the Takatsuki, just to make the comparison fair.  Don't have golden ears and pretty terrible at describing sound, but yes they did sound better to me.  And that was when the tube was straight out of the box.  Stay tuned ! 
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I believe San Raal used to run EML too, but that was before he had Mullard ECC32 and EML 5U4G.  Maybe he'll have something to add.
 
So far the tube's gotten pretty good reviews from 6moons and the thread in the High-End forums.  I have no idea what a Western Electric sounds like and probably never will, but that comparison has been thrown out there.  Given how much 300Bs cost can't imagine there would be too many people out there reviewing them.. 
 
May 12, 2012 at 9:59 PM Post #20,982 of 42,298
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My WA2 arrived last week and I'm really enjoying it with the Senn HD600s. I want to try some different tubes and I've already ordered an RCA 6AS7G for cheap on eBay.
But before I go crazy I should ask you informed ones ...
Given a budget of no more than $100.00 what driver tube replacement would offer the greatest sonic change ? ... I've never experimented with tube rolling before so I'm really curious what this is all about and want a really big change from the stock JJ driver to hear the tube rolling difference.
Edit: Obligatory pic:

 
Honestly, for $100-120, your best bet first would be to upgrade the power tubes to the Sylvania 7236 (or better still the TungSol 5998 or 7236). I always found this made the biggest improvement with the WA2 when I owned it. You could worry about the stock driver tubes later.
 
May 13, 2012 at 5:41 AM Post #20,983 of 42,298
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I'll roll the EML meshes back in to compare once I get some more hours on the Takatsuki, just to make the comparison fair.  Don't have golden ears and pretty terrible at describing sound, but yes they did sound better to me.  And that was when the tube was straight out of the box.  Stay tuned ! 
wink_face.gif

 
I believe San Raal used to run EML too, but that was before he had Mullard ECC32 and EML 5U4G.  Maybe he'll have something to add.
 
So far the tube's gotten pretty good reviews from 6moons and the thread in the High-End forums.  I have no idea what a Western Electric sounds like and probably never will, but that comparison has been thrown out there.  Given how much 300Bs cost can't imagine there would be too many people out there reviewing them.. 

 
I sold my EML's just recently to pay for the Mullard CV181's and GZ34's but I agree with Xinque here, the Taka's sounded more engaging right out of the box, they have a sublime sweetness and seduction that's hard to live without. I did notice a slight shrillness for the first 25 hours or so but that quickly died away and was left with just fantastic music.
 
I believe there are a few in the high end section that may have the opportunity to compare NOS to Takatsuki 300b in time. One member recently purchased the STC tubes 4300A I think who is also considering Taka's. but with the new model coming out they'll be Taka "old" and Taka "new" production to throw into the mix as well.
 
May 13, 2012 at 5:55 AM Post #20,984 of 42,298
If anybody is looking for Philips GZ34 metal or brown base let me know, I maybe able to help.
I am not selling any, a friend is.
 
May 13, 2012 at 6:34 AM Post #20,985 of 42,298
gratz on buying a WA2
 
 
i enjoy my WA2 with sylvania 7236 quite alot. the ts 5998 are good too but hard to find
 

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