Oct 12, 2011 at 9:11 PM Post #14,416 of 42,370
Got my headphone stand and WA5 extended umbilical today.  Also came with a flyer for Woo Audio's new amp, the WA-234 MONO.  Didn't see it posted in the other thread or linked on the main Woo site yet, so might be of interest for those of us not making it to RMAF this weekend:
 
http://www.wooaudio.com/products/wa234mono/
 
Makes me wonder how big these keys are, if there's actual circuity in them or if it just connects a circuit inside of the amp.  Judging from the sketch I'd imagine it something akin to plugging in control rods into a reactor.. 
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Oct 13, 2011 at 1:12 AM Post #14,420 of 42,370
 
USAF-596
United Electronics Company 1957
 
I found my backup! Or did I?
 
So, what do I think? After a 9 hour investment (5 hrs/Raytheon 6SN7WGT-1949; 1 hr interlude; 3 hrs RCA 6SN7GT Grey Glass) I think I want more! Tonight, we're starting early!!! No in-depth comments just yet, but would like to share a comment or two.
 
First, I'd like to salute Clayton SF for a fantastic find! And 2359glenn for providing both feedback and the wherewithal to get goin'. Also, prior to last night, my Woo had been idle since 30 September - been swingin' with the Pioneer system since I was prepping the Woo for new photos and listing for sale. And I jumped in after only a 30 minute warm-up, a far cry fro the usual one to three hour warm-up.
 
Once I saw Clayton's photographs and mention of the '596' I decided to put everything on hold until I could hear this tube. I was close to accepting his invite to come over but I couldn' get free from my responsibilities. So, I ordered from Glenn right away! After rifling through the music library last night, it became clear I won't be listing my Woo... until at least 2012.
 
I share similar findings with previous posters about the '596' sounding more open, tuneful bass, organic sounding and so on. This tube produces a beautiful sound but it is not without incident. 
 
The EML Glass was on the sidelines awaiting preliminary scores to come back from the '596.' When, apparently for no reason (my head was turned away for only a moment), the '596' reached out and smacked the (edit) out of the EML!!! The threat of being replaced is real for tubes and people alike. Was it something the 5U4G said?
 
The 5U4G still has its place inside the Woo, but I think I will reverse the roles for awhile and now make the '596' the primary rec. And roll driver tubes in and out 'till year-end and see what happens. 
 
On the very first track ("Holidays" - Abraham Laboriel, Sr.), I noticed right away that the '596' sounded more open, detailed with a bit more depth. And that vocals and some pianos sounded more organic, less slick production wise. Of course, all of this is recording dependent. My W4S DAC-1 throws a wide sound stage to being with. Paired with the '596' and the room doesn't necessarily get any bigger/wider than the EML. But it's as if there has been some furnishings removed from the room allowing notes to become better distinguished, trail & decay. 
 
One track down, I was sitting up with interest. But it wasn't until track two that I realized how organic this tube sounds - "Golden Girl" - Al Jarreau... wow! Half way into the track I nearly mistook my labored breaths as being part of the background material. Removing the cans for just a hot second, I quickly realized it was just me in ll my excitement!  
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  Third came Angela Bofill's "I Try." I would not be surprised if the next time I flush my ears (Debrox) I discover traces of honey in the sink.
 
My Wireworld Eclipse 6 interconnects allow for some really nice timbre with this tube. Pace, rhythm & timing? This tube swings! A wonderful and musical presentation. However, it is early... the sound signature ain't hittin' hard like I wanna hear, percussion strikes among them (slam!). And there are some tracks in my library where the EML sounds better to me. But, the '596' is holding down my mutli-faceted and diverse library with  higher scoring averages across genres.
 
And then there's the shifting of instruments and lower or higher levels of gain. Sometimes better, worse or no difference. I hear this whether it's the rectifier or driver tube. For example, playing a track and listening to background instrumentation/vocals you might hear the detail at a certain volume. Then switching rectifiers/tubes, you might hear the same detail push further into the background or become more prominent. Based on my listening preferences, this could completely throw my liking for a particular track OUT! Or draw me in to liking it more. Or simply no change in taste, just different.
 
I have a whole lot more listening to do with the '596.' What's not yet known is, after 200-500 hours, what will it sound like? If I like it now, and I really do, I could be in for a pleasant surprise. And by no means will I be leaving the EML out on the curb for weekly pick-up. I'm just embarking on a new adventure.
 
Someone with a revealing front-end that returns an uber low noise floor, like mikemalter's Bryston BDP-1, ought to be down right tickled with a tube like the USAF-596! What, I didn't mention the price?!  
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Oct 13, 2011 at 1:51 AM Post #14,422 of 42,370
Mine got delivered yesterday.
 
Fedex's service was a total disaster though. First they tried to deliver at my home address and there was no one in there. I called them and they suggested I change the address and send it to someone who will be home. I did. They said it would be delivered on Monday. It was Friday last week. They did not deliver it on Monday and when I called them they said that when redirecting there is always a delay - no one told me about that on Friday. Someone wasted a day waiting for them at home.
I talked to a manager and she promised the parcel would be delivered on Tuesday. At 9pm on Tuesday they logged an exception saying no one was home - but someone was. They said they would investigate and call me back - never did. Went out for delivery yesterday and 3rd day in a row someone wasted the whole day waiting for them. Never showed up. 
This morning I got an email saying it was delivered and left at the reception desk - there is not one where I sent it - neither at my address, nor at my friend's address. 
At the moment I cannot be sure where they delivered it and the only thing that comes to mind is my old workplace I left over a year ago, my flatmate still works there. 
 
Having spent 2 hours on the phone with Fedex (will have to call them again to find out where they delivered it) I am not even sure I want to unpack the amp and use it. I am so fed up with it. I just hope that using it will make me ultra happy, otherwise it will be on the For Sale forum in minutes.
 
Oct 13, 2011 at 1:55 AM Post #14,423 of 42,370
Oct 13, 2011 at 1:58 AM Post #14,424 of 42,370


 
Quote:
 
USAF-596
United Electronics Company 1957
 
I found my backup! Or did I?
 
So, what do I think? After a 9 hour investment (5 hrs/Raytheon 6SN7WGT-1949; 1 hr interlude; 3 hrs RCA 6SN7GT Grey Glass) I think I want more! Tonight, we're starting early!!! No in-depth comments just yet, but would like to share a comment or two.
 
First, I'd like to salute Clayton SF for a fantastic find! And 2359glenn for providing both feedback and the wherewithal to get goin'. Also, prior to last night, my Woo had been idle since 30 September - been swingin' with the Pioneer system since I was prepping the Woo for new photos and listing for sale. And I jumped in after only a 30 minute warm-up, a far cry fro the usual one to three hour warm-up.
 
Once I saw Clayton's photographs and mention of the '596' I decided to put everything on hold until I could hear this tube. I was close to accepting his invite to come over but I couldn' get free from my responsibilities. So, I ordered from Glenn right away! After rifling through the music library last night, it became clear I won't be listing my Woo... until at least 2012.
 
I share similar findings with previous posters about the '596' sounding more open, tuneful bass, organic sounding and so on. This tube produces a beautiful sound but it is not without incident. 
 
The EML Glass was on the sidelines awaiting preliminary scores to come back from the '596.' When, apparently for no reason (my head was turned away for only a moment), the '596' reached out and smacked the (edit) out of the EML!!! The threat of being replaced is real for tubes and people alike. Was it something the 5U4G said?
 
The 5U4G still has its place inside the Woo, but I think I will reverse the roles for awhile and now make the '596' the primary rec. And roll driver tubes in and out 'till year-end and see what happens. 
 
On the very first track ("Holidays" - Abraham Laboriel, Sr.), I noticed right away that the '596' sounded more open, detailed with a bit more depth. And that vocals and some pianos sounded more organic, less slick production wise. Of course, all of this is recording dependent. My W4S DAC-1 throws a wide sound stage to being with. Paired with the '596' and the room doesn't necessarily get any bigger/wider than the EML. But it's as if there has been some furnishings removed from the room allowing notes to become better distinguished, trail & decay. 
 
One track down, I was sitting up with interest. But it wasn't until track two that I realized how organic this tube sounds - "Golden Girl" - Al Jarreau... wow! Half way into the track I nearly mistook my labored breaths as being part of the background material. Removing the cans for just a hot second, I quickly realized it was just me in ll my excitement!  
biggrin.gif
  Third came Angela Bofill's "I Try." I would not be surprised if the next time I flush my ears (Debrox) I discover traces of honey in the sink.
 
My Wireworld Eclipse 6 interconnects allow for some really nice timbre with this tube. Pace, rhythm & timing? This tube swings! A wonderful and musical presentation. However, it is early... the sound signature ain't hittin' hard like I wanna hear, percussion strikes among them (slam!). And there are some tracks in my library where the EML sounds better to me. But, the '596' is holding down my mutli-faceted and diverse library with  higher scoring averages across genres.
 
And then there's the shifting of instruments and lower or higher levels of gain. Sometimes better, worse or no difference. I hear this whether it's the rectifier or driver tube. For example, playing a track and listening to background instrumentation/vocals you might hear the detail at a certain volume. Then switching rectifiers/tubes, you might hear the same detail push further into the background or become more prominent. Based on my listening preferences, this could completely throw my liking for a particular track OUT! Or draw me in to liking it more. Or simply no change in taste, just different.
 
I have a whole lot more listening to do with the '596.' What's not yet known is, after 200-500 hours, what will it sound like? If I like it now, and I really do, I could be in for a pleasant surprise. And by no means will I be leaving the EML out on the curb for weekly pick-up. I'm just embarking on a new adventure.
 
Someone with a revealing front-end that returns an uber low noise floor, like mikemalter's Bryston BDP-1, ought to be down right tickled with a tube like the USAF-596! What, I didn't mention the price?!  
wink_face.gif

 
 


This is really interesting.  The 596 sounds better than the EML.  It has to be on my next to do item.  Got the rest of this week and next week to finishing breaking in V-Caps.  But then, I'm going to want to hear this.  Thanks a lot for posting your thoughts.
 
 
 
Oct 13, 2011 at 2:09 AM Post #14,425 of 42,370


Quote:
Mine got delivered yesterday.
 
Fedex's service was a total disaster though. First they tried to deliver at my home address and there was no one in there. I called them and they suggested I change the address and send it to someone who will be home. I did. They said it would be delivered on Monday. It was Friday last week. They did not deliver it on Monday and when I called them they said that when redirecting there is always a delay - no one told me about that on Friday. Someone wasted a day waiting for them at home.
I talked to a manager and she promised the parcel would be delivered on Tuesday. At 9pm on Tuesday they logged an exception saying no one was home - but someone was. They said they would investigate and call me back - never did. Went out for delivery yesterday and 3rd day in a row someone wasted the whole day waiting for them. Never showed up. 
This morning I got an email saying it was delivered and left at the reception desk - there is not one where I sent it - neither at my address, nor at my friend's address. 
At the moment I cannot be sure where they delivered it and the only thing that comes to mind is my old workplace I left over a year ago, my flatmate still works there. 
 
Having spent 2 hours on the phone with Fedex (will have to call them again to find out where they delivered it) I am not even sure I want to unpack the amp and use it. I am so fed up with it. I just hope that using it will make me ultra happy, otherwise it will be on the For Sale forum in minutes.



I am disturbed; saddened by your experience. Especially since you are doing what you can but continue to get let down by other's actions. It's very difficult sometimes to conduct business away from home. It's good to know that, while disappointed, you're staying positive as one could be.
 
Oct 13, 2011 at 2:13 AM Post #14,426 of 42,370


Quote:
 
This is really interesting.  The 596 sounds better than the EML.  It has to be on my next to do item.  Got the rest of this week and next week to finishing breaking in V-Caps.  But then, I'm going to want to hear this.  Thanks a lot for posting your thoughts. 
 



I'm with you, it's a very good idea not to introduce too many changes at once. This way, you'll have a better idea of what's happened, what's developing and what you could use more of or less of in your sound signature. But @ $15 a pop!.... 
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Oct 13, 2011 at 8:27 AM Post #14,427 of 42,370

 
Quote:
I am disturbed; saddened by your experience. Especially since you are doing what you can but continue to get let down by other's actions. It's very difficult sometimes to conduct business away from home. It's good to know that, while disappointed, you're staying positive as one could be.



The fact that I am going home very soon is the most positive of all so I can only be happy :)
 
 
Oct 13, 2011 at 8:39 AM Post #14,428 of 42,370


Quote:
 
USAF-596
United Electronics Company 1957
 
* * * * *
First, I'd like to salute Clayton SF for a fantastic find! And 2359glenn for providing both feedback and the wherewithal to get goin'. Also, prior to last night, my Woo had been idle since 30 September - been swingin' with the Pioneer system since I was prepping the Woo for new photos and listing for sale. And I jumped in after only a 30 minute warm-up, a far cry fro the usual one to three hour warm-up.
 
Once I saw Clayton's photographs and mention of the '596' I decided to put everything on hold until I could hear this tube. I was close to accepting his invite to come over but I couldn' get free from my responsibilities. So, I ordered from Glenn right away! After rifling through the music library last night, it became clear I won't be listing my Woo... until at least 2012.
 
* * * * *
 


Well, gosh thanks. But I must clarify one thing: Glenn (2359glenn) should be given the credit for the 596's fantastic find. I merely searched and found a photo of the 596 tube after his mention of it in this tread inciting a buying frenzy on eBay. So, thank you, Glenn for finding the 596 tube and "providing both feedback and the wherewithal"... and footwork ..."to get goin'."
 
 
Oct 13, 2011 at 9:42 AM Post #14,429 of 42,370


Quote:
Well, gosh thanks. But I must clarify one thing: Glenn (2359glenn) should be given the credit for the 596's fantastic find. I merely searched and found a photo of the 596 tube after his mention of it in this tread inciting a buying frenzy on eBay. So, thank you, Glenn for finding the 596 tube and "providing both feedback and the wherewithal"... and footwork ..."to get goin'."
 



Truly a collaborative effort on both your parts - I'm fat & happy!
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Just concluded my second overnight session with the rectifier and I must say, I can't believe how big the sound is! Looking for a tube that can shovel a bit? The USAF-596 returns micro details like lunch at a busy Manhattan Deli! I'm hearing details I ain't yet heard in CD's I've been listening to for years. And if that ain't enough, the '596' threw a couple of deep bass notes for the D7000's to fetch and the Denons went down and got 'em like a golden retriever.
 
Further, in the second session I used two different software players for the Mac - Pure Music & Audirvana. Both in "Hog mode" with "Integer stream output." To date, it seems like the '596' has a very thin veil covering in its sound signature, no immediate cause for concern, just paying attention. Something that may easily disappear as the tube burns and blossoms over the next two weeks, easily ( I hope). Very excited about what could come next toward the first 100-200 hours (currently sitting at 13 hrs).
 
Oct 13, 2011 at 9:58 AM Post #14,430 of 42,370


 
Quote:
Well, gosh thanks. But I must clarify one thing: Glenn (2359glenn) should be given the credit for the 596's fantastic find. I merely searched and found a photo of the 596 tube after his mention of it in this tread inciting a buying frenzy on eBay. So, thank you, Glenn for finding the 596 tube and "providing both feedback and the wherewithal"... and footwork ..."to get goin'."
 



 I found this tube after Dannie's EML blew up and wanted to find a tube that will hold up in WOOs power supplies. Really for the WA5 that has the two 5U4 filaments in series
 and 5U4s were not made to run this way. So I found this tube that was only made for the military with strict standards so all the filaments were the same resistance.
    The fact that they sound better then a EML is a much added bonus.
 
 

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