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Feb 23, 2015 at 11:46 PM Post #32,882 of 42,298
Got my Elrogs!
 
Burning in now..
Initial impression at 2 hours burn in: treble sounded a bit harsh to me with WE422A & TS 6F8G, still is a tad smoother than SERPs which is fully burned in.
 

 
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Feb 23, 2015 at 11:59 PM Post #32,883 of 42,298
Give it time I guess.  Since at first I wasn't so sure what to make of it.  I also have the bmc puredac so I don't know what the modi would do to it.
 
Feb 24, 2015 at 12:48 AM Post #32,884 of 42,298
Yeah got to get a new DAC.. just not sure what I want... not a bad problem to have I guess.
Happy to report that the Elrogs are starting to smooth out..
 
Feb 24, 2015 at 12:56 AM Post #32,885 of 42,298
Yeah got to get a new DAC.. just not sure what I want... not a bad problem to have I guess.
Happy to report that the Elrogs are starting to smooth out..
Check out the soon to be released Chord 2Qute DAC.
 
Feb 24, 2015 at 12:23 PM Post #32,886 of 42,298
  Got my Elrogs!
 
Burning in now..
Initial impression at 2 hours burn in: treble sounded a bit harsh to me with WE422A & TS 6F8G, still is a tad smoother than SERPs which is fully burned in.
 

 
No increased in radiation with the thoriated tungsten filaments, that's good!
 

I received mine yesterday afternoon but it is so cold outside that I decided to open the box and let them sit overnight to get them up to room temperature to avoid any potential issues. Will start burning them tonight.
 
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Feb 25, 2015 at 12:39 PM Post #32,887 of 42,298
Last night after about 5 hours of burning in I did s quick listen of the Elrogs. The transparency and detail of the sound is amazing. The soundstage seems bigger and more 3 d BUT where is the bass?
 
I notice there is some upper bass but not much of the deep controlled bass. Will it come out after more burn in?
 
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Feb 25, 2015 at 12:56 PM Post #32,888 of 42,298
  Last night after about 5 hours of burning in I did s quick listen of the Elrogs. The transparency and detail of the sound is amazing. The soundstage seems bigger and more 3 d BUT where is the bass?
 
I notice there is some upper bass but not much of the deep controlled bass. Will it come out after more burn in?

 
Just a suggestion - 5 hours is waaaaay too early to making any judgements on a tube. Give it 50 hours, or better 150 hours, to settle down and get close to target.
 
Feb 25, 2015 at 12:59 PM Post #32,889 of 42,298
   
Just a suggestion - 5 hours is waaaaay too early to making any judgements on a tube. Give it 50 hours, or better 150 hours, to settle down and get close to target.

I know is way too early for any judgement. I only posted basically to see if current owners had the same experience and have some input regarding the potential evolution of the sound.
 
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Feb 25, 2015 at 1:01 PM Post #32,890 of 42,298
I'm using HD800, my only remaining HP atm.  I don't have any problem with bass, I thought it was pretty fulfilling, I'm not a bass head to begin with, so maybe it's that.  It has gotten quite a bit smoother on the female high pitch voice (upper mid?) and treble, still burning in...
 
Feb 25, 2015 at 5:25 PM Post #32,891 of 42,298
  I'm using HD800, my only remaining HP atm.  I don't have any problem with bass, I thought it was pretty fulfilling, I'm not a bass head to begin with, so maybe it's that.  It has gotten quite a bit smoother on the female high pitch voice (upper mid?) and treble, still burning in...

I was listening with my McIntosh MHP1000. I am not a bass head either but I noticed a lot less low extension compared to my EML 300B Mesh. EAT and AVVT (less than 15 hours on these) tubes.
 
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Feb 25, 2015 at 6:14 PM Post #32,892 of 42,298
I would agree that the elrog bass is lighter than the eml 300b mesh but I think the extension is still there just the quantity is not the same.  This is the sound I like thought.  I would trade away some bass for better transparency and sound stage.  I like this kind of sound better; so if you love your bass I could see you might not like the elrog as much.  The mid is still splendid thought.  Once again these are not fully burn in so thing could still slightly change.  Either way I love what it sound right now over the other 300b.
 
Feb 25, 2015 at 9:06 PM Post #32,894 of 42,298
My Elrog's have 250 hours on them now and I have not detected any changes since 175/200 hours.
 
The best way to describe the Elrog sound is that they have an energising forward presentation that has lovely tonality. The end result is that they draw you into the music. driver tube matching and rectifiers are important. 
 
Depending on the music. I use either the Mullard Metal base GZ34, it has great speed and suits EDM, rock and further enhances the Elrog's dynamic nature or the Takatsuki 274B's. Most of the time I use the Takatsuki 274B's which now have 370 hours on them.
 
I have tried just about combination of driver tube, and I believe this is the area where people are running into trouble. If you pair the Elrog's with a Sylvannia, Raytheon or any bright or lighter sounding tubes it will exacerbate the slightly forward character of the Elrog's which may make you think that they are a little lean in the bass. Pair them with good RCA's (preferably early grey glass) Brimars or the best Tung Sol RP's. (I could write a whole page just on these tubes and their varieties) and its a different proposition. The sound will be richer and more euphonic. If that's your preference.
 
Do they have a huge bottom end, no, not in the same manner as the SERP's do. Does it improve with burn in yes, you need to be at least past the 80-100 hour mark before your hearing the tubes at their best.
 
The manufacturer sent me the detailed operating specs of the tubes which I passed onto Jack Woo to make sure the tubes were able to operate without concern in Woo amps, he has checked them and reports that they are fine.
 
Feb 25, 2015 at 9:23 PM Post #32,895 of 42,298
The manufacturer sent me the detailed operating specs of the tubes which I passed onto Jack Woo to make sure the tubes were able to operate without concern in Woo amps, he has checked them and reports that they are fine.

I did the same with question asked specifically for WA5, and all is good.
 

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