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Apr 2, 2012 at 8:45 PM Post #20,071 of 42,298


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rawrbington said:
@Ausin
i love my WA2 so much.  and if you have a reciever with main in or an integrated amp you can pre your speaker system with it.  and get tube sound from your cans and your speaks.
but the WA6SE is much more versatile.  thats the only knock on the 2.  it doesn't play nice with all low imp cans, but you already knew that    =)
 
prepare to be raped by the 5998 tube seller.  and by raped i mean probably more than what a sophia would cost you.  protip: buy used 5998s from a dealer who will take them back.  scored mine for a hair under 50$ for the matched pair.  and they are dead dead dead silent.
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 On what day?! I continue to keep my eyes and ears open...
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 8:50 PM Post #20,072 of 42,298
3 days before christmas.
yeah i almost bought 4 of them.  cause he said he had 10.
and that 50$ included shipping.  it was 40 for the 2 tubes, 2$ per to match, and then 6 in shipping.
ive gotten back with the guy several times just to see if he had more and no luck   =(
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 9:00 PM Post #20,073 of 42,298
davidio, I would check the sockets for debris or buildup, then clean the pins on the ECC32s as good first troubleshooting steps.  It may have just been a fluke and one tube wasn't seated well also.  The pins in the sockets are spring loaded, so if you permanently bent them it would be easy to tell by shining a light in there and checking.
 
I enjoy your writing style btw, elegant and vivid but still purposeful.  The way you describe the ECC32 reminds me a lot of the things I had to say about the Sylvania Chrome Dome '52 GT.  If you haven't listened to that tube, or to the round plate black glass Tung Sol GT they are also must have 6SN7s IMO.  A lot of folks feel the ECC32 is the king though, so maybe the view isn't as grand when you climb back down from the top of the mountain so to speak.
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM Post #20,074 of 42,298


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rawrbington said:
3 days before christmas.
yeah i almost bought 4 of them.  cause he said he had 10.
and that 50$ included shipping.  it was 40 for the 2 tubes, 2$ per to match, and then 6 in shipping.
ive gotten back with the guy several times just to see if he had more and no luck   =(
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You ask for leads, by chance? Maybe the dealer and his/her buddies back scratch...
 
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM Post #20,075 of 42,298

 
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draygonn said:
Someone posted that the 5998s have twice the gain of the stock 6080s.

I bow down to their power.
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2.5x the gain.  Typical mu for a 5998 is 5.4 vs. 2.0 for a 6080 or 6AS7.  The Western Electric is higher still at about 5.8 if memory serves.  I suspect this is partially why people think they sound better than the regular 5998.  More gain doesn't necessarily mean more driving power though, as that comes from a variety of different variables.  Despite their reputation for being a harder edged sounding tube good for rock, I found that when given the plate current it really wants the 5998 actually takes on the same relaxed and effortless sound the 6AS7G exhibits only with clearly superior transparency and bass/control.
 
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM Post #20,076 of 42,298
I didn't but I remember he talked to me about tubes for a good 45 minutes. I think he said they came out of some sort of industrial equipment and that the 10 he kept were just the ones that tested very close to nos

He also gave me a 60 day money back return policy. No restocking fees no bs. Just would have to pay the 6 bucks to ship me back

Really that's probably the best score I've had on audio stuff.
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 9:37 PM Post #20,077 of 42,298


I agree with your description about 5998 being relaxed and effortless, very different from TS7236.  They are still powerful, very nice tubes.
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xcalibur255 said:
 


2.5x the gain.  Typical mu for a 5998 is 5.4 vs. 2.0 for a 6080 or 6AS7.  The Western Electric is higher still at about 5.8 if memory serves.  I suspect this is partially why people think they sound better than the regular 5998.  More gain doesn't necessarily mean more driving power though, as that comes from a variety of different variables.  Despite their reputation for being a harder edged sounding tube good for rock, I found that when given the plate current it really wants the 5998 actually takes on the same relaxed and effortless sound the 6AS7G exhibits only with clearly superior transparency and bass/control.
 
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Apr 2, 2012 at 9:57 PM Post #20,078 of 42,298
I'd call the 5998 the hd 650 of tubes
 
Apr 3, 2012 at 12:38 AM Post #20,080 of 42,298
Apr 3, 2012 at 1:03 AM Post #20,081 of 42,298
Yeah, I received the invitation as well. Unfortunately, I thought it was the shipping confirmation for my WA22 :frowning2:. I would love to attend as well, but swamped at work and all the way out in Arizona...
 
Apr 3, 2012 at 1:08 AM Post #20,082 of 42,298
is 400$ too much for a pair of denon 5000?
 
Apr 3, 2012 at 2:50 AM Post #20,084 of 42,298
I got the invite as well. I bought a stand in the past, and Jack was awesome enough to take in my used WA22 for repair and an upgrade. Unfortunately I am way too far away
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jc9394 said:
Who sold this WA22?  Congrats to whoever that person is.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/598337/fs-woo-audio-wa22-includes-shipping-insurance-and-fees-still-under-warranty
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Only two months new, I sure hope that pyramid6 had a chance to listen to it with some better tubes before he decide to pass it on
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