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Jul 31, 2010 at 2:52 AM Post #13,801 of 24,807
That should work, but if it's a bad quality unregulated one, then the voltage may fluctuate especially if the start current is more than the running current and if the adapter is rater lower than it states. (or so I'm told)
 
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I dont have the multimeter. The label of the adaptor stated output 12V == 1A  12W max.
 



 
Jul 31, 2010 at 3:07 AM Post #13,802 of 24,807


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I currently have SR-202 + SR-404 + SRM-300 with 2 PRO-bias sockets to drive both at the same time. 
 
On this setup SR-202 is somewhat analytical and bass lean, while SR-404 has a fuller sound/more bass, but still as detailed (although others will probably argue that the fuller sound probably masks some detail)
 
Coming from Denon 1/2 markl modded D5000, I didn't enjoy SR-202 since orchestral music lacked body. On the other hand SR-202 sounds similar to the DT48 I had, except for not having recessed highs (or lows for the purpose of comparing to vintage DT48 8 ohm).
 
So IMO, it's really up to your preference for analytical or fuller sound.
 
I'm going to sell both the D5000 and SRS-2050a, but I've seen people sell their 404 and keep the 202 (albeit with a better amp)

p.s - keep in mind your setup - what this will all sound like with tube or discrete amp? The SRM-300 currently has an LME49720HA
 
p.s.s. just volume wise, srm-252a drives SR-404 exactly to the same volume as SR-202. 

I've heard both side by side and preferred the SR-202 over the SR-404 quite easily. Used the SRM-313. As you say the 404 sounded fuller, but it didn't sound right to me, like a TV with the color adjustment too high.
 
 
Jul 31, 2010 at 5:08 AM Post #13,807 of 24,807
Thanks for the replies!
 
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Closest sounding to the 404s are the 303s.


hmmmm, I havent heard the 303s either...

 
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The 202 with leather ear pads ( from the 404 LE ) sounds a lot like the LNS = very good.
 
cheers
 
Tom
 

 
I thought the LNS were quite nice but I didnt compare them back-to-back to my 202s when I had them on loan. I didnt think they sounded similar
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Jul 31, 2010 at 6:50 AM Post #13,808 of 24,807


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Thanks for the replies!

hmmmm, I havent heard the 303s either...

 
 
I thought the LNS were quite nice but I didnt compare them back-to-back to my 202s when I had them on loan. I didnt think they sounded similar
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No they don´t. But when you mount the leather ear pads they do. These pads are significantly flatter then the
original 202 pads.
 
cheers
 
Tom
 
Aug 1, 2010 at 12:29 AM Post #13,809 of 24,807

If you're a FR graph kind of guy, here's the graph:http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/223263/the-stax-thread-new#post_2712240 
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Interesting how many prefer the 202 over the 404s.
 
I like the 202s but I havent heard the 404s myself. What do they actually sound like (or what's a pair of stax that sounds similar to the 404s)?

There's also a different one in the manual for the SR-202 titled 'signature' which I presume is for the SR-404. 
 
Here's the graph from the manual for posterity (excuse the quality, the lighting and the camera weren't great):
 

 
EDIT: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/223263/the-stax-thread-new/13815#post_6821538 see the bold bit - I think this is the Lambda sig graph, not the SR-404 graph, despite it being in the sr-404/303/202 manual and saying signature.
 
Aug 1, 2010 at 12:40 AM Post #13,810 of 24,807
I just measured the bias on my newly arrived T1S and read 6V on the right channel. Looks like I need to open it up to do some adjustment. How exactly do I open it anyway?
 
I accidentally put a volt meter probe into the bias socket when I was measuring the right channel
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. I didn't get shocked or anything. The reading obviously went off scale. I don't suppose this would cause any damage? A volt meter does not complete any circuits, so I don't see how it would harm the amp in any way. Please tell me I am right.
 
Aug 1, 2010 at 1:00 AM Post #13,811 of 24,807

it might help if you refer to the middle pic of http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/317133/who-knows-what-the-pin-out-is-for-stax-and-sennheiser-electrostatics#post_5609792 and tell people how you measured pin-wise. 
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I just measured the bias on my newly arrived T1S and read 6V on the right channel. Looks like I need to open it up to do some adjustment. How exactly do I open it anyway?
 
I accidentally put a volt meter probe into the bias socket when I was measuring the right channel. I didn't get shocked or anything. The reading obviously went off scale. I don't suppose this would cause any damage? A volt meter does not complete any circuits, so I don't see how it would harm the amp in any way. Please tell me I am right.

 
Aug 1, 2010 at 1:24 AM Post #13,813 of 24,807
Why is the voltage so low? When I measured my SRM-300 for kevin, it was from 0-350v on +L/-L, for a test tone approx equal channel voltages. Did you have anything playing? (test tone maybe?)
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transient orca said:
 measued left+ to left- =-0.5V; right+ to right- =5.5-6.5 V

mmm, neg 0.5 volts? I thought it was 0-max voltage AC rms...
 
 
Aug 1, 2010 at 1:43 AM Post #13,815 of 24,807

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 oops, sorry then. 
Hope someone can tell you how to open the unit, so that you can adjust the TVRs, if people think right- =5.5-6.5 V does need adjusting (sounds like it does from the thread)
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I am measuring DC bias for the tubes which should be 0V (as close as possible) between + and -.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/324155/biasing-stax-srm-t1

 
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