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Feb 17, 2007 at 11:49 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 24,807

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By popular demand I'm starting a new thread for our discussions on all things Stax and electrostatic due to the unwieldily number of pages of that thread. This thread should be looked on as a direct continuation of the previous thread.

Keeping a broad scope with regards to subject matter has served us well up to now, so feel free to discuss anything related to Stax and electrostatic/electret headphones and their amplification in general.

Previous threads are here:
The Stax thread - Previous Stax thread
Long, meandering comparison of Stax 404 and Stax X-III, Episode I - Originally Lloyd's SR-X impressions thread, but basically got subverted into the Stax thread's predecessor

If you would like to nominate other threads to be added to this list by all means do so, but lets try to avoid listing every single thread that's ever mentioned Stax or electrostatics in the history of Head-fi.


That's the fine print out of the way, so everyone have fun.
 
Feb 17, 2007 at 11:56 AM Post #2 of 24,807

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Yeah, I'm the second the post in a gonna-be-very-long-and-interesting thread
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Feb 17, 2007 at 12:08 PM Post #3 of 24,807

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Yeah, I'm the second the post in a gonna-be-very-long-and-interesting thread
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We'll keep this one shorter than the previous one to prevent anyone getting RSI from excessant use of the scroll wheel.


Okay, to get the ball rolling there is an interesting discussion on 2channel currently about the difference in sound depending on whether the earpads seal or not. A chap was kind enough to offer these graphs of his 404, although he made pains to say that they shouldn't be considered especially accurate, particularly in the treble.

This is with the earpads lying flush:
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And this is with a gap:
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I'm not totally sure on the exact conditions under which the measurements took place but I found the results quite interesting.
 
Feb 17, 2007 at 12:22 PM Post #5 of 24,807

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Interesting graphs. I've tried detaching my lambda pro drivers from the headband and holding them up to my ears like the K1000 drivers. It might be interesting for someone to build a K1000-like electrostatic headphone. One where you could swivel the drivers closer or further away from your ears.
 
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Interesting graphs. I've tried detaching my lambda pro drivers from the headband and holding them up to my ears like the K1000 drivers. It might be interesting for someone to build a K1000-like electrostatic headphone. One where you could swivel the drivers closer or further away from your ears.


How did this experiment sound ?
 
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How did this experiment sound ?


Interesting. It works much like a K1000 works. As you swivel them too and from your head you can play with the headstage and overall sound. I'd be curious to have some sort of permanent setup that would allow me to actualy wear them and listen for an extended time to really judge them.

I've got a spare set of Lambda drivers...maybe I should put them to good use
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Originally Posted by thrice /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Interesting. It works much like a K1000 works. As you swivel them too and from your head you can play with the headstage and overall sound. I'd be curious to have some sort of permanent setup that would allow me to actualy wear them and listen for an extended time to really judge them.

I've got a spare set of Lambda drivers...maybe I should put them to good use
lambda.gif
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k1000smile.gif
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Something like that would be seriously trick. It'd make JaZZ's home made electrostatics look sane and normal by comparison.
 
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Feb 17, 2007 at 2:57 PM Post #10 of 24,807

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i'm so excited i can't contain myself

my first venture into electrostats is fast approaching

i am expecting delivery of my lambdas with srm-1/mk2 from new zealand that i scored on fleabay for a bargain (considering recent going prices anyway!)

i was thinking of going the SRM-323 with SR-404 but i believe this setup may be comparable and for much much less $$$

oh goodness... someone hold me
 
Feb 17, 2007 at 3:09 PM Post #11 of 24,807

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d-cee /img/forum/go_quote.gif
i'm so excited i can't contain myself

my first venture into electrostats is fast approaching

i am expecting delivery of my lambdas with srm-1/mk2 from new zealand that i scored on fleabay for a bargain (considering recent going prices anyway!)

i was thinking of going the SRM-323 with SR-404 but i believe this setup may be comparable and for much much less $$$



Not only comparable but maybe better . Are they pro bias ?
 
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Originally Posted by d-cee /img/forum/go_quote.gif
i'm so excited i can't contain myself

my first venture into electrostats is fast approaching

i am expecting delivery of my lambdas with srm-1/mk2 from new zealand that i scored on fleabay for a bargain (considering recent going prices anyway!)

i was thinking of going the SRM-323 with SR-404 but i believe this setup may be comparable and for much much less $$$

oh goodness... someone hold me



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Originally Posted by thrice /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Interesting. It works much like a K1000 works. As you swivel them too and from your head you can play with the headstage and overall sound. I'd be curious to have some sort of permanent setup that would allow me to actualy wear them and listen for an extended time to really judge them.

I've got a spare set of Lambda drivers...maybe I should put them to good use
lambda.gif
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k1000smile.gif
=
tongue.gif



Tried same with Lambda Nova Basics - detached from headband and held carefully to avoid occluding backwards 'exhaust' from them. Tried all sorts of angles and volumes but must say I could not convince myself of any real out of head imaging improvement
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