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Jun 21, 2012 at 9:14 AM Post #18,661 of 24,807
The cloth is not as acoustically transparent as the foam IMO and the new pads themselves sound worse than the old ones. I have posted about this on this thread a while ago and my findings have been mostly confirmed by at least another head-fier. YMMV
 
 
Jun 21, 2012 at 11:03 AM Post #18,662 of 24,807
Ooph, so my strange intro to Stax continues to go awry. Yesterday it was 95 in New York, and I listened to the 202s for a while. Every 20 minutes or so I had to take off the headphones and wipe the sweat off the pads. Then, I noticed that a few drops of it had gotten inside the metal mesh and was on the gray surface of the drivers (or whatever that is under the mesh). Presumably, the dissolved foam would have stopped this. Is this dangerous?
 
Jun 21, 2012 at 8:45 PM Post #18,664 of 24,807
In the event that they do zap you the amount of current going through them is miniscule enough to not do you any harm, but the same can't be said for the headphones as sweat hitting the drivers is almost certainly going to damage something. Not to mention the salts and residues left behind when sweat dries.

Wet hair + 'stats = no.
 
Jun 21, 2012 at 10:14 PM Post #18,665 of 24,807
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Ooph, so my strange intro to Stax continues to go awry. Yesterday it was 95 in New York, and I listened to the 202s for a while. Every 20 minutes or so I had to take off the headphones and wipe the sweat off the pads. Then, I noticed that a few drops of it had gotten inside the metal mesh and was on the gray surface of the drivers (or whatever that is under the mesh). Presumably, the dissolved foam would have stopped this. Is this dangerous?

Stax headphones have dust and sweat protection diaphragms.  If these diaphragms are still in good shape, I wouldn't worry about the sweat.
 
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Jun 21, 2012 at 10:27 PM Post #18,666 of 24,807
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Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and suggest you refrain from listening to the stats while dripping sweat.

 
Lol, how about the Sauna?
 
Jun 21, 2012 at 10:50 PM Post #18,668 of 24,807
Wet hair at meets should be dealt with by instant death or alternatively if theres a RSA amp around they have to listen to that for the rest of the meet.
 
Jun 21, 2012 at 10:57 PM Post #18,669 of 24,807
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Didn't someone at a meet blow one of Kevin's BH due to wet hair?

 
I thought that someone spilled a glass of water on his O2s...
 
Jun 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM Post #18,672 of 24,807
Glad I could inject some gross levity into the humdrum world of electrostatics :wink: But really now, the things have pleather pads and everyone here complains of sweaty ears, so it must be something the designers took into account.
 
 
Jun 22, 2012 at 12:22 PM Post #18,673 of 24,807
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Wet hair at meets should be dealt with by instant death or alternatively if theres a RSA amp around they have to listen to that for the rest of the meet.

 
Why you want to reward them?
 
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Jun 22, 2012 at 1:24 PM Post #18,675 of 24,807
Having listened to the 202/252 for a few long days and nights, I'm totally gobsmacked by the sound. For the first time, I'm listening for hours with my eyes closed, having the feeling of watching a movie, or wanting to jump into the soundfield. Having owned a dozen dynamic phones, I've never experienced that illusion. The Stax remind me of Vermeer—from a distance, his paintings give the impression of having almost hyperreal detail. For me, the Stax do the same thing, even on so-so recordings, and while I know that it's in part an illusion (like the Vermeers), I can't get enough of it. Honestly, I cannot imagine going back to dynamics.
 
Of course, the mind begins to imagine even better things. I'd love a little more body and musical flow, and even more dynamics. And okay, a tad more bass wouldn't hurt. I'm planning to replace the pads with the leather ones from the 404LE, but still not sure about amp upgrades. Looking through the massive Stax thread, I get the feeling that the sonic differences between Stax amps aren't huge in absolute terms, and the prices certainly can be high. I know the srm-252 can easily be improved upon, but does putting a thousand dollars into a better amp for the Lambdas make sense? Similarly, is there much to be gained from moving from a 202 to a 404LE? Or is the only meaningful way forward the 02/tube amp?
 
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