The discovery thread!

[Dsnuts]

   
Is there a specific reason why you don't use the M200 instead?
 
Also, how's the driver flex for you? I'm about to send mine off back to KEF because the left channel's low frequency driver broke on me. I'm not sure if the driver flex had any part in its demise but I'm suspicious it might have something to do with it.

I was getting driver pop as well when I was trying to get them to fit correct. One has to wonder if this will be a problem for the KEF earphones. It is too bad too as they sounded awesome to me but you can have the best sounding set of earphones in the world and that sound won't matter much if you end up fidgeting with the phones 90% of the time.
 
I look forward to whatever those guys do for their next round. I hope they learn from the design flaws of the M200.

 

[PeterDLai]

  If you are willing to wait for Amazon Japan to restock and willing to use a third-party forwarding service (like Tenso), the Philips Fidelio S2 is at its lowest price I've seen: ￥ 8,672, which seems to be about $86 USD at the current exchange rate. In my experience, Tenso service and shipping fees come out to about $15-20, so even with that tacked on, it's still quite a bit cheaper than buying from a reseller on eBay ($138 at the time of this posting).
 
At the moment, they say that it will ship "within 1 to 3 months", but I've found that their estimates aren't very accurate and oftentimes they'll get stock in much sooner. YMMV, of course.
 
EDIT: The white/gold version is currently in stock for ￥ 8,955 (around $89 USD) (price went up!) if you don't want to wait or want that color scheme instead.

 
As I said previously, Amazon Japan's stock arrival estimates are never quite accurate as they have 4 units of the black model in stock at the time of this posting for the same ￥ 8,672 price. Go! Just noticed that the white model went back to normal pricing (￥ 11,300 or about $113 USD) since my last post, BTW. So if you want the black model, now might be the best time to get it.

 

[waynes world]

   
As I said previously, Amazon Japan's stock arrival estimates are never quite accurate as they have 4 units of the black model in stock at the time of this posting for the same ￥ 8,672 price. Go! Just noticed that the white model went back to normal pricing (￥ 11,300 or about $113 USD) since my last post, BTW. So if you want the black model, now might be the best time to get it.

 
 
That's $89 Canadian 

 

[sfwalcer]

   
 
That's $89 Canadian 

 
^ Then what are you waiting for.

 

[waynes world]

   
^ Then what are you waiting for.

 
Waiting for you to tell me that I shouldn't be getting the M200's instead  

 

[sfwalcer]

   
Waiting for you to tell me that I shouldn't be getting the M200's instead  

 
^ Why not just get both, simple really. 

 

[waynes world]

   
^ Why not just get both, simple really. 

 
Simple for you master trolls maybe! 

 

[drbluenewmexico]

decisions, decisions,  should i send my onkyos back, which are just burning in,
and order the S2?  And what happened to the love for the ath cks1000?
both of those were japanese golden ear audio award winners...

 

[Fizban]

Guuuuuuys!
 
Nobody is helping me at CKS1000 thread!
 
Lemme post my question here:
 
CKS1000 and CKS1000LTD, any diff in sound?
CKS1000LTD cheaper now.
 
And is CKS1000 a true upgrade to my beloved carbo basso?
 
 
 
 
Thaaaaaaaaaaaaanks

 

[ericp10]

   
Is there a specific reason why you don't use the M200 instead?
 
Also, how's the driver flex for you? I'm about to send mine off back to KEF because the left channel's low frequency driver broke on me. I'm not sure if the driver flex had any part in its demise but I'm suspicious it might have something to do with it.

 
Last question first: I've been somewhat lucky in not experience driver flex in my IEMs.
 
First question: The S2 has an incredible sound, but it's just a more comfortable fit for my ears when moving about. Not that the M200 is not comfortable for me, but the S2 has more comfort. In addition, the M200(and the M500) I feel are a bit too flashy out and about. I don't live in a rough neighborhood, but I get too many looks and it draws too much attention. Yes, the S2 is flashy too, but in a more subtle way. I do take the M200 every now and then, but I prefer to just lounge with it and listen at home.

 

[DannyBai]

Both CKS1000's are the same I believe. Just the color is different. It is an upgrade in sound but its got a whole different presentation.

Glad I already bought the S2 because that huge write up would have me sold.

 

[sfwalcer]

  Guuuuuuys!
 
Nobody is helping me at CKS1000 thread!
 
Lemme post my question here:
 
CKS1000 and CKS1000LTD, any diff in sound?
CKS1000LTD cheaper now.
 
And is CKS1000 a true upgrade to my beloved carbo basso?
 
 
 
 
Thaaaaaaaaaaaaanks

^ Welp if you actually diligently read/ follow this thread this matter has already been addressed. But let me link ya' to it just in case.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-onkyo-phones-pg-904-geek-dac-pg888-kef-m200-pg835-philips-fidelio-s2-pg-724/10740#post_9523049
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-onkyo-phones-pg-904-geek-dac-pg888-kef-m200-pg835-philips-fidelio-s2-pg-724/10725
 
The Jpnese sure thinks they sound different??? But just how exactly different it's still a mystery.

 

[ericp10]

  decisions, decisions,  should i send my onkyos back, which are just burning in,
and order the S2?  And what happened to the love for the ath cks1000?
both of those were japanese golden ear audio award winners...

 
CKS1000 still gets love and is a great phone, but some of us who own it have just found some others that's taking most of our attention right now. Look, although I think the S2 and M200 are technically better than the CKS1000, those two phones may not meet your sound signature preference (I would be surprise if it didn't, but that could happen). As a matter of fact, I've seen about two to four people on this thread say they didn't care for the S2, or that it was boring to them (it's pretty neutral, but a full sound with bass). So, from what you've read, if you think the CKS1000 would suit you more than the S2 or M200, then by all means you should go for it.

 

[Fizban]

Oooooooooo thanks sfwalcer!

Yeah I saw those posts but they do not address whether there's any difference in sound between CKS1000 and CKS1000LTD.
 
It's perception that they may be different.
No real-world comparative tests.

 

[sfwalcer]

Both CKS1000's are the same I believe. Just the color is different. It is an upgrade in sound but its got a whole different presentation.

Glad I already bought the S2 because that huge write up would have me sold.

WRONG!!!

 
Oh and i got those M200 tips you sent me Danny, D'YAM they are nowhere similar to the tips i got from my used set. They are SOOOO much bigger. LMAO, will see how they fit/ sound later on. Thanks again!!!