The discovery thread!
May 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Post #100,291 of 107,070
I think my concert days are done for the most part, they can get nauseatingly loud. Last I checked my hearing was pretty though, no significant drop off until around 16k.
Earasers are excellent in-ear plugs for $40. They kill the high-frequency sounds while still letting you talk and other sounds not be muffled.

I swear by them as a lead singer in two rock bands. Next step for me is IEMs to replace my stage monitors.
 
May 3, 2024 at 11:22 AM Post #100,292 of 107,070
but so far i want a bit vocal forward with decent thickness for rock song.
Good impactful bass but controlled and didn't bleed or smear other segment.
Treble with decent resolution but primarly not sibilant.
You might like Aful MagicOne. One BA, with a cool acoustic tube/chamber to enhance bass.

SUPER smooth presentation. Solid note weight. Adequate treble resolution with zero fatigue or sibilance. Not the last drop of detail or extension on both ends, but effortless, smooth.
 
May 3, 2024 at 11:42 AM Post #100,293 of 107,070












Edit: disclaimer: I paid for these IEMs at a discount from Hifigo. The discount was in exchange for a written review published within a deadline.

Elysian Acoustic Labs Pilgrim has landed!

First impressions with stock ear tips, HiBy R4 with local FLAC files:

- Very well-tuned with a neutral and even sound signature. There is no additional warmth and at the same time, there is NO significant emphasis at the upper frequencies.

- Coming from a Harman-tuned IEM, I am pleased to find that the upper midrange is not as forward. There is enough emphasis to make vocal forward and clear but not shouty. There is also no sibilance, even when I test the harshest tracks in Ed Sheeran’s “=“ album. This IEM does not sound like Effect Audio Gaea at all.

- Treble (e.g., horn, hi hat, cymbals) is clear, detailed without being harsh or piercing.

Edit: the treble extension of this IEM is quite epic.

- The bass can be contentious. It has the same sharp attack with short decay, similarly to the Gaea. The bass line is clean, precise, and “snappy”, but not as thick as I would like from a DD. On the plus side, details and texture of the bass are excellent. Bass is also well extended into the subbass and can rumble if the track has that content.

- Excellent separation, note definition, overall sense of clarity. Every instrument is well defined with sharp boundary. Micro details come through well. Combining with the bass, this IEM as a snappy, tactile presentation, like plucking a tightened string if a guitar.

- Large and spacious soundstage. With R4, the stage feels a bit 2D and flat. I will see whether the stage can gain some depth from my iBasso DX300 and L&P W4.

In general, this IEM is a winner so far on both technical performance and tuning. It will make the value proposition of some kilobuck IEM quite questionable, especially if one is looking for a neutral and technical IEM.

Lee is killing it with Pilgrim.
Price is apparently 400 USD:

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006922123249.html

I'm sold at this price minus the proprietary connectors (Why at this price point?) and an embarrassingly lack of tips

One thing to note is that the treble BA (Sonion E50) is used on the Hype 4 while the 2300 has been used on many IEMs in the price point

It's rare to see boutique brands reduce costs by a metric ton.
 
May 3, 2024 at 2:12 PM Post #100,294 of 107,070
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Edit: disclaimer: I paid for these IEMs at a discount from Hifigo. The discount was in exchange for a written review published within a deadline.

Elysian Acoustic Labs Pilgrim has landed!

First impressions with stock ear tips, HiBy R4 with local FLAC files:

- Very well-tuned with a neutral and even sound signature. There is no additional warmth and at the same time, there is NO significant emphasis at the upper frequencies.

- Coming from a Harman-tuned IEM, I am pleased to find that the upper midrange is not as forward. There is enough emphasis to make vocal forward and clear but not shouty. There is also no sibilance, even when I test the harshest tracks in Ed Sheeran’s “=“ album. This IEM does not sound like Effect Audio Gaea at all.

- Treble (e.g., horn, hi hat, cymbals) is clear, detailed without being harsh or piercing.

Edit: the treble extension of this IEM is quite epic.

- The bass can be contentious. It has the same sharp attack with short decay, similarly to the Gaea. The bass line is clean, precise, and “snappy”, but not as thick as I would like from a DD. On the plus side, details and texture of the bass are excellent. Bass is also well extended into the subbass and can rumble if the track has that content.

- Excellent separation, note definition, overall sense of clarity. Every instrument is well defined with sharp boundary. Micro details come through well. Combining with the bass, this IEM as a snappy, tactile presentation, like plucking a tightened string if a guitar.

- Large and spacious soundstage. With R4, the stage feels a bit 2D and flat. I will see whether the stage can gain some depth from my iBasso DX300 and L&P W4.

In general, this IEM is a winner so far on both technical performance and tuning. It will make the value proposition of some kilobuck IEM quite questionable, especially if one is looking for a neutral and technical IEM.

Lee is killing it with Pilgrim.
Fantastic first impression makes me oh so eager to try/blindbuy these at some point. Waiting on more people I trust to get their ears on these.

A few years back, I ruined a non-detachable Westone IEM after sleeping with it in the ears. Probably snagged on something and didn't have sound on one side when I woke up LOL. Had to send it for repair and recabling.

Now I only sleep with cheap IEMs that have detachable cables.
Yikes, not the nicest thing to wake up to ... I usually start to drift off and take them out just before I've fully drowned deep into sleep. It's very difficult to intentionally wake up, take them out and put them aside, but it has to be done in order to prevent such mishaps.

Earasers are excellent in-ear plugs for $40. They kill the high-frequency sounds while still letting you talk and other sounds not be muffled.

I swear by them as a lead singer in two rock bands. Next step for me is IEMs to replace my stage monitors.
Might have to try these earplugs. I am getting bombarded with advertisements for 'earloops' too, have you (or anyone else) tried these?

And please tell me more about your singing, I'm only just starting my semi-serious singing career too! I'm releasing a new cover tomorrow actually!
 
May 3, 2024 at 2:39 PM Post #100,295 of 107,070
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Probably a mistake...but who knows, maybe it isn't. :)

Cheers!
 
May 3, 2024 at 3:40 PM Post #100,296 of 107,070
TANGZU Wan'er S.G for ~ 16.50 USD (Edit: sometimes also for less than 8 USD if you can wait :) crazy price anyway)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006153617713.html

Review here: https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/tangzu-waner-s-g.26236/reviews
Also still in Gizaudios sub 50 USD IEM recommendation for vocal lovers.
(And also a lot appreciation here in this thread)

Beautiful pictures of the geen version by @Leonarfd over here:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/show-off-your-iems-buds-and-accessories.945980/post-17611715
8 dollars is crazy when the unboxing alone is comparable with stuff that costs 5-6 times the MSRP.
 
May 3, 2024 at 4:23 PM Post #100,297 of 107,070
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Edit: disclaimer: I paid for these IEMs at a discount from Hifigo. The discount was in exchange for a written review published within a deadline.

Elysian Acoustic Labs Pilgrim has landed!

First impressions with stock ear tips, HiBy R4 with local FLAC files:

- Very well-tuned with a neutral and even sound signature. There is no additional warmth and at the same time, there is NO significant emphasis at the upper frequencies.

- Coming from a Harman-tuned IEM, I am pleased to find that the upper midrange is not as forward. There is enough emphasis to make vocal forward and clear but not shouty. There is also no sibilance, even when I test the harshest tracks in Ed Sheeran’s “=“ album. This IEM does not sound like Effect Audio Gaea at all.

- Treble (e.g., horn, hi hat, cymbals) is clear, detailed without being harsh or piercing.

Edit: the treble extension of this IEM is quite epic.

- The bass can be contentious. It has the same sharp attack with short decay, similarly to the Gaea. The bass line is clean, precise, and “snappy”, but not as thick as I would like from a DD. On the plus side, details and texture of the bass are excellent. Bass is also well extended into the subbass and can rumble if the track has that content.

- Excellent separation, note definition, overall sense of clarity. Every instrument is well defined with sharp boundary. Micro details come through well. Combining with the bass, this IEM as a snappy, tactile presentation, like plucking a tightened string if a guitar.

- Large and spacious soundstage. With R4, the stage feels a bit 2D and flat. I will see whether the stage can gain some depth from my iBasso DX300 and L&P W4.

In general, this IEM is a winner so far on both technical performance and tuning. It will make the value proposition of some kilobuck IEM quite questionable, especially if one is looking for a neutral and technical IEM.

Lee is killing it with Pilgrim.
I'm curious about your comparison of the DX300 and R4. I'm aware of the price difference. But, besides the soundstage, what would be the other differences? Are these differences too big? Would R4 be more on the neutral side? I have a DX300 and I'm thinking about getting an R4 for easier portability.
 
May 3, 2024 at 4:33 PM Post #100,298 of 107,070
Might have to try these earplugs. I am getting bombarded with advertisements for 'earloops' too, have you (or anyone else) tried these?

And please tell me more about your singing, I'm only just starting my semi-serious singing career too! I'm releasing a new cover tomorrow actually!
First things first, my friend: I watched the video of your rendition of "My Way." You have a terrific, sonorous voice! Eager to hear your new cover.

I'm not as smooth or suave of a front man as you. I'm the lead singer of a "Dad rock" band -- we're all in our 50s and 60s -- that plays bar gigs in the western suburbs of Syracuse, New York. Classic rock, alternative, jam band, alt-country, a bit of country, Southern rock.

We play our asses off every gig. So, along those lines, I sing from the bottom of my feet on every tune -- not much for subtlety! Bon Scott of AC/DC is my favorite front man in music history, if that gives you any indication of my style and influences. But unlike Bon, I keep my shirt on at every gig. I also don't have hair to my shoulders like Bon -- I'm bald. :)

I'm also the lead singer in an acoustic duo. Me and a guitar player. Mainly softer rock, alt-country, country.

No experience with any quality earplugs besides Earasers. I started with crap foam plugs and graduated to Earasers upon the recommendation of one of the guitar players in our band, who swears by them. He was right -- they're excellent.
 
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May 3, 2024 at 4:40 PM Post #100,299 of 107,070
Depends. Take out the Trio and the 500LM. Don't critically analyze them, just sit back and listen and don't worry about the flaws. Which one speaks to you the most? If that is the Trio then the Hydro is going to make you smile. If that is the 500LM, the Hydro isn't going to change your mind as it's very much like the Trio.
Oh I've done that many times now. The Trio gives me the wonder of discovery. It likes to dig and reveal and still remains fairly musical (despite the mids lacking some weight, as many have pointed out), and the LM is more about the musicality, that warmth in the mids, and the sparkly treble extension that brings a smile to your face, while still exhibiting the revealing nature (just a bit more subtle though than the Trio).
 
May 3, 2024 at 4:49 PM Post #100,300 of 107,070
Not in cohesion and timbre.

EA500 LM whips Delci for detail and technicalities. But I'll take the Delci's tuning and timbre seven days per week. Absolutely zero listening fatigue, while the EA500 LM made me wince at least once nearly every track.

My take on the EA500 LM is that Simgot's sound engineers got into three isolated rooms. One made the best bass possible for the budget range. The next made the best midrange possible for the budget range. The last made the best treble possible for the budget range. Then all three groups presented their creations individually, and they were stuffed into a beautiful chrome shell without a stop for final tuning.

I never got the sense of very good cohesion or transitions between bass and mids, and mids and treble when I tested the EA500 LM. Phenomenal detail retrieval and technical chops for the price in each of the three zones of the frequency response. But they never sounded like they meshed as you sense almost immediately in a richly euphonic, musical set.

But, hey, it's all in the context, right? My favorite headphones are the ZMF Aeolus, Sennheiser HD 6XX and Aful MagicOne. All have the same DNA strands of warm neutral with rolled-off treble and very cohesive, musical tuning. Squeezing the last bit of detail from the treble or the last rumble of boom from the sub-bass aren't bright beacons atop my radio tower.
Thing is i'm not intimidated or bothered by Simgot's top end. Maybe my ears are old? I've mentioned that before, so there shouldn't be any issues with cohesion, since both are single DD's.
 
May 3, 2024 at 5:41 PM Post #100,301 of 107,070
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May 3, 2024 at 6:36 PM Post #100,302 of 107,070
I'm curious about your comparison of the DX300 and R4. I'm aware of the price difference. But, besides the soundstage, what would be the other differences? Are these differences too big? Would R4 be more on the neutral side? I have a DX300 and I'm thinking about getting an R4 for easier portability.

Tuning is also a big difference. The R4 sounds neutral whilst the DX300 with stock amp has more “analogue” tuning with emphasis in the lower frequencies. Depending on listeners, one might say R4 sounds “digital” (whatever that means), others might say DX300 is “coloured”.

Otherwise, I don’t think it’s a huge downgrade. I thoroughly enjoy my IEMs with R4, and switching to W4 and DX300 sounds like upgrade, rather than I am “punished” by listening to R4 (which, excuse my “elitism”, is the case with some DAPs and dongles).

noted that (1) this R4 is loaned sample from HiBy and (2) it might be raffled to someone else so if you don’t see me using it in the future, it’s not pump and dump 😂
 
May 3, 2024 at 6:44 PM Post #100,303 of 107,070
really excited about my path forward in the hobby right now. Got the DC-Elite incoming as well, so depending how things go I’ll be looking to completely eliminate an unnecessary desktop chain as well as some lower end IEMs to save for another higher end set. Got some awesome gear that is collecting dust that could use a more loving home, may throw in some dumb cables I have lying around too!
 
May 3, 2024 at 7:39 PM Post #100,304 of 107,070
really excited about my path forward in the hobby right now. Got the DC-Elite incoming as well, so depending how things go I’ll be looking to completely eliminate an unnecessary desktop chain as well as some lower end IEMs to save for another higher end set. Got some awesome gear that is collecting dust that could use a more loving home, may throw in some dumb cables I have lying around too!
^ Ditto....alas my excitement is still within the budget(>mid) range - the satisfaction of hitting that "best bang for buck" sweet-spot can't really be underestimated. Ok admittedly it's a total rollercoaster, but once you've reached that sense of achievement, it only adds to your satisfaction & reaffirms why you got into the hobby in the first place. After several years of posting on the earbud forum - I continually resisted iems, hence the learning curve has been an uber long/convoluted process - a journey full of highs & lows...but definitely (defiantly) worth it in the long run !! :L3000:
 
May 3, 2024 at 8:18 PM Post #100,305 of 107,070
^ Ditto....alas my excitement is still within the budget(>mid) range - the satisfaction of hitting that "best bang for buck" sweet-spot can't really be underestimated. Ok admittedly it's a total rollercoaster, but once you've reached that sense of achievement, it only adds to your satisfaction & reaffirms why you got into the hobby in the first place. After several years of posting on the earbud forum - I continually resisted iems, hence the learning curve has been an uber long/convoluted process - a journey full of highs & lows...but definitely (defiantly) worth it in the long run !! :L3000:
That's right. I spent nearly $500 for the Aures, which I absolutely adore, as my avatar shows, but recently hitting on the $79.00 LM and the $20 Trio, I'm pretty much cool with tapping out on any more purchases for the time being. I'm feeling real good within this hobby, brotha.
 

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