[lgcubana]

LOL The Trio reshelled and labeled Vader by KZ LOL

Who's your Daddy ?

 

[baskingshark]

What are the thoughts on the sivga nightingale, tried it tdy and it was a very interesting set

It has a very niche midcentric tuning with a sub-bass roll-off. Midcentric gear shine well with vocals and acoustic genres for example, but falls flat with bass heavy music like EDM, hip hop for example.

So in a way, this is a specialist IEM, aces genres that synergize with it, but perhaps isn't as versatile to pair with other genres.

Depends on your music preferences really, can be make or break. But the Nightingale really is the bees' knees for those genres that work with it.

I think everyone in this hobby should try or own Z1R at some point

Problem with the Z1R was the horrendous fit, that gave quite a number of consumers issues.

No point having the most heavenly sound but one cannot tolerate the fit or comfort for more than a few minutes.

Who's your Daddy ?

KZ Vader telling all CHIFI:

What's one of the most recommended $500 or less IEM recommended for a more musical/organic/slightly warm presentation while still having good technicalities?

Maybe check out the ThieAudio Hype 4

 

[Tzennn]

I read some Quattro posts in this thread, have many more people gotten it?

ya doing tour, i'm about to post some impression this weekend!

 

[mathi8vadhanan]

Me too - received them on Monday....the signature is uber addictive/moreish. The stock cable is meh, so had to switch it out for a balanced cable with R6 Pro & use an adaptor when listening via DAC. They traverse any genre easily, handles electronica, binaural recordings, acoustic instruments with great authenticity/immersion. I agree Delci are the perfect daily mobile set (not taken them out all week!) Added another set of tips today & now the fit is so snug they feel seamlessly like part of your ear !!

Picked up mine from the mailbox just now. 3 tracks in and these have no business being this good for $60.
Stock cables are pretty nice, but the tips not so much. They're too supple and didn't even have to try them to know, they're not going to make good seal.
The tips from Zero2 are perfect on this, having the same short stubby nozzles. These have a nicer sub-bass to mid-bass ratio, compared to the trio. Fit and comfort is on another level.

 

[Redcarmoose]

It has a very niche midcentric tuning with a sub-bass roll-off. Midcentric gear shine well with vocals and acoustic genres for example, but falls flat with bass heavy music like EDM, hip hop for example.

So in a way, this is a specialist IEM, aces genres that synergize with it, but perhaps isn't as versatile to pair with other genres.

Depends on your music preferences really, can be make or break. But the Nightingale really is the bees' knees for those genres that work with it.






Problem with the Z1R was the horrendous fit, that gave quite a number of consumers issues.

No point having the most heavenly sound but one cannot tolerate the fit or comfort for more than a few minutes.






KZ Vader telling all CHIFI:









Maybe check out the ThieAudio Hype 4

The design of the IER is resulting in the actual sound. Meaning they could have not made it any other way. The metal process in junction with the drivers create anti-resonance and phase alignment, better than 98% of IEMs ever made. If you’re wondering where the IER-Z1R magic is, that’s one of the first places to look besides the X2 DD (Dynamic Driver and Dynamic Micro Tweeter) X1 BA. Remember too they moved the main DD driver positioning from the previous XBA-Z5 being sideways........becoming parallel to the eardrum. They also made the DD smaller. It is a heavy beast, at 12 grams a piece.

What I guess you’re talking (about) is the hideous fit for you? And yes, it gave a number of members fit trouble, but it worked for many. That’s why they say at least try it. Fit is subjective.

But Sony is known for thinking out of the box, and making stuff that has never existed here on Earth. Probably Sony will take into account the fit issues, and address them with MK2?

 

[Acts]

It has a very niche midcentric tuning with a sub-bass roll-off. Midcentric gear shine well with vocals and acoustic genres for example, but falls flat with bass heavy music like EDM, hip hop for example.

So in a way, this is a specialist IEM, aces genres that synergize with it, but perhaps isn't as versatile to pair with other genres.

Depends on your music preferences really, can be make or break. But the Nightingale really is the bees' knees for those genres that work with it.






Problem with the Z1R was the horrendous fit, that gave quite a number of consumers issues.

No point having the most heavenly sound but one cannot tolerate the fit or comfort for more than a few minutes.






KZ Vader telling all CHIFI:









Maybe check out the ThieAudio Hype 4

It has a very niche midcentric tuning with a sub-bass roll-off. Midcentric gear shine well with vocals and acoustic genres for example, but falls flat with bass heavy music like EDM, hip hop for example.

So in a way, this is a specialist IEM, aces genres that synergize with it, but perhaps isn't as versatile to pair with other genres.

Depends on your music preferences really, can be make or break. But the Nightingale really is the bees' knees for those genres that work with it.






Problem with the Z1R was the horrendous fit, that gave quite a number of consumers issues.

No point having the most heavenly sound but one cannot tolerate the fit or comfort for more than a few minutes.






KZ Vader telling all CHIFI:









Maybe check out the ThieAudio Hype 4

I had very similar thoughts, my music preference is extremely vocal centric, and the nightingale was a pleasant surprise and with its price point. The temptation was very real

 

[rawrj]

What's one of the most recommended $500 or less IEM recommended for a more musical/organic/slightly warm presentation while still having good technicalities?

I think that upcoming Dunu x GizAudio DaVinci might just suit all that to a T. A lot of early impressions seem to match up pretty well.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

There were times of fumbling with Sony, where they came out with a little known DAP before 2016 when they introduced the 1Z and 1A. Same as they made the Z7 as their TOTL, though it only held that position for a short time as around 2016/2017 before they made the full-size Z1R. And having both, I can say the MDR-Z1R is more of an audiophile headphone. But they had to make the MDR-Z7 to understand what they where doing. The MDR-Z1R is not been surpassed either, as the IER-Z1R. There are very few ways to know when Sony will make a IER-Z1R MK2. I mean sure the next one may be pretty good, and in a way the XBA-Z5 was like the MDR-Z7, before the MDR-Z1R came out? Both the Z7 and XBA-Z5 have a lot of bass! I know that’s a confusing example, but Sony seems to be improving this stuff with each step. They must have fired all the sound guys in white lab-coats as the MDR-R10 was the opposite of the MDR-Z1R, the R10 is totally totally neutral! The most neutral headphone ever made.

The Sony XBA-Z5 goes down as one of the most disappointing purchases of my entire life. All that money spent for what was a bass heavy and dark treble IEM with middling technicalities, and this purchase was based on the raves of several Discovery vets. Might be neck and neck with the disappointment in the Dita Truth, and just below the Mofasest Trio.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

I think everyone in this hobby should try or own Z1R at some point

Lend me the $1,000 and we'll talk?

 

[Redcarmoose]

The Sony XBA-Z5 goes down as one of the most disappointing purchases of my entire life. All that money spent for what was a bass heavy and dark treble IEM with middling technicalities, and this purchase was based on the raves of several Discovery vets. Might be neck and neck with the disappointment in the Dita Truth, and just below the Mofasest Trio.

2014 when Sony gave us the XBA-Z5 it was a while ago. In fact Sony did give me the Z5 as a gift with a DAP. You know in Singapore gifts with audio purchases are more common and liked. To where I like the Z5 but realize the drawbacks. One crazy thing is if you try and bring the midrange up and out, it becomes strangely grainy? But I look at it as a progression of sorts, yet there are still people that find the XBA-Z5 new to them now a decade later and fall in love. Though its outside surface does scratch, that and MMCX.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

What's one of the most recommended $500 or less IEM recommended for a more musical/organic/slightly warm presentation while still having good technicalities?

Oriveti OD200

 

[Redcarmoose]

Lend me the $1,000 and we'll talk?

Someone just purchased the IER-Z1R (used) due to the Japan exchange rate right now.......for $850 or so?

 

[o0genesis0o]

Lend me the $1,000 and we'll talk?

Me looking at my wallet

But seriously, almost every “audiophile” I met has owned, is still owning, or at least has tried the Z1R once. That IEM is legendary.

The first time I tried it was when I was deep in the flathead earbuds phase. I was still shocked how the Z1R matched the stage of earbuds but with much more epic bass.

And how you can swing that IEM around and yonk it to someone face like a self defence weapon. (I might or might not have done so)

 

[ToneDeafMonk]

My feelings and sound impressions on one you may not have noticed.
Shanling ME600

 

[Zerstorer_GOhren]

I think everyone in this hobby should try or own Z1R at some point

I'm not that particular fan of IER-Z1R especially on how it was tuned. Tested it many times since early 2019. For sure it has a superb technical performance and excellent fitting to my lugholes but its tuning doesn't fit well to my sound profile preference. Somewhat off to me.