[Ferdinando1968]

Well as you can see from the measured graphs, the tunings are not very night and day different among the 16 switch settings. Between the most extreme "bassiest" tuning and the least bassy one, we are just talking about a 4 dB difference in bass. So it is quite subtle.

There are definitely other tunable IEMs with a much more marked difference in sound/graphs.

I don't have the non-tunable KZ D-Fi, but this are the graphs from their store page:





If the store graphs can be trusted, seems that the non-tunable variant corresponds to the all switches down config for the tunable D-Fi - ie the least bassy setting.

I'm not sure I understand.
The red line on the graphs above and below look the same, but in the graph above as you enable the switches, the gains go up, even the bass gains.

Therefore I would say that the standard version without switch has less emphasis on the whole range, even the low one.

I did not understand anything ?

 

[baskingshark]

I'm not sure I understand.
The red line on the graphs above and below look the same, but in the graph above as you enable the switches, the gains go up, even the bass gains.

Therefore I would say that the standard version without switch has less emphasis on the whole range, even the low one.

I did not understand anything ?

Yes the standard version is similar to the switch version without any bass boost.

But this is similarity in tonality only, as a standard FR graph doesn't tell the full story (eg timbral accuracy, soundstage, imaging, transients etc still may not be 100% gleaned from a graph).

 

[Natesdailies]

Cross posting from the WC:

Tansio Mirai RGB Impressions (hot take):



During my meet up with @tgx78 I got a chance to hear the new Tansio Mirai RGB. I was interested in trying it after finding out that it had 9 BA + 8 EST configuration. Yes you heard that correctly. It has 17 drivers each.

RGB comes with switches. l liked it best with the bass switch on.





I was impressed by how much Tansio Mirai could fit in here. Nearly all the space in the enclosure wae used up. This probably leads you wondering how does it fit?





The shells were surprisingly small given how many drivers were inside. For your reference, some iems that dont fit for me are the EXT, Anima, Phonix. Something that would be on the fringe is Diva. RGB has a shorter nozzle but a wider bore vs XE6. It fits me quite well. It was a smidge smaller than Mentor.


The reason its called "RGB" is because after recieving sunlight / flashlight beams the strips glow like this.

Prelude:

Because I havent heard of this brand, I had my reservations. I'll cut to the chase here. RGB is nothing short of magical. Immersive and cohesive. Enthralling. It's giving me the same type of butterflies that I had experiencing Traillii for the first time. After demoing quite a few summit fi iems in Canjam NYC this was unexpected.

Sonics:
RGB is a W shaped tuning with a mid emphasis. Using a broad stroke comparison to extract value, RGB reminds me of some aspects of the Ragnar and Traillii. Instruments are well layered and separated.

Resolution
The transient response / background is super clean. On some tracks, the veil is lifted as if a window was shattered. Echoes, Reverbs, whispers, brushes, trailing end of instruments are clearly defined. Recordings that are layered with space sound more holographic. Ragnar had this aspect, but it came with a few caveats. Because it was treble emphasized strings, female vocals, cymbal strikes could sound sharp for bright music. While it was good for large scale classical, it became a specialist because EDM / House music was fatiguing to listen to.

Timbre


RGB has excellent timbre like Traillii. Vocals and Instruments sound natural. There is this fullness / hardness to the notes that is recognizable on resolving sets like Mentor. However a mild weak point for me with Mentor is its tonality. For reference, I find Mentors timbre good enough for genres like vocal trance. I am comparing it to Traillii which I still find one of the best sets oriented around timbre. RGB sounds more correct here vs Mentor.

Bass:
Coming off the heels of the Fatfreq demos, bass was a tall order for RGB. I did most my testing with the bass switch on. RGB has an ample amount of bass quantity for bassy tracks (House, EDM, rock). While it doesnt have the raw physicality of MSEs, I found it to work well with the rest of the presentation. It is the fast punchy kind. Toms have a good amount of impact "thwak". Kickdrums sound full and convincing. Compared to Elysian X where its bass quality was distracting vs its treble, RGBs implementation sounded more in unison to its mids and treble.

Mids:
So far Traillii and Phonix LE have been my benchmark for mids. Mirai has pristine, airy, but weighty mids. I am getting this clarity from the upper mids reminiscent of Odin without the shrillness or sibilance. The full lower mids adds grit to Celine Dions voice. RGB captures the tiny nuances in her performances.

Treble:
Treble is another strong point on RGB. Off memory, one of the best I have heard next to X. For electronic music, synth rips become lazer beams. Cymbals are well articulated and extended without sounding unnatural. High pitch triangle, xylophone notes stand out without sounding grating. In terms of perceived quantity, it is less than Mentor and more energetic than Traillii.

Application:
I find this to be an all rounder but some of my favourite music genres on it were:
Vocals, Classical, Jazz, Pop, movie soundtracks, Vocal Trance.

I will stop here for now. Because I have shown zeal for this product, I will add that I am speaking from my experience. Your mileage may vary.

 

[PhonoPhi]

Ah if $30CAD maybe you can EQ, but….bass DD is very slow that I could leave a little warning. I can’t believe vast majority of people rate EA3 that high, if that’s their first BA IEM, “oh I can hear thing” maybe… otherwise…they soon will have a concern of early hearing impairment.

1 star sounds really harsh. To me, it would be reserved for totally failing disfunctional products.
Your review seems to be more of a kind: broccoli is a really healthy delicious food (which can be agreed upon for the sake of arguments here), so those proverbial hamburgers and fries are not good at all, since everyone decisively must love brocolli for their own sake.
(Just my limited opinion, and sorry for perhaps overdramatizing already dramatic "1 star").

if low price is what one is after, FiiO JD3 (not JD7) is a safer choice. I bought it because I didn’t want to leave empty handed after testing all kinds of expensive IEMs at my local hifi store. The resulting sound was pleasant (enough). Strong bass, can be kind of hollow sounding due to the strong 4k dip.

Graph: https://nk-tran.com/iegems-graphtool/?share=JD3

I was just curious about comparison with older Fiio IEMs. Before discovering real hard-core ChiFi, like KZ, Fiios were my main IEMs, mostly F9 pro (and I did not lose heating, for I had a really treble-protective DAP).
I still think, I may "burn" 400+ hours F5 one day - what if it develops into a "swan"

My yesterday testing taught me again that sources matter a lot, and the synergy source-IEM can be subtle and really resonating (and the cable is naturally in between for fit, aesthetics and what not )

 

[o0genesis0o]

My yesterday testing taught me again that sources matter a lot, and the synergy source-IEM can be subtle and really resonating (and the cable is naturally in between for fit, aesthetics and what not )

Assuming that you are not being sarcastic, I agree about the source differences. (Still not convinced about the sound of cable, until I hear the change myself). I have a DAP that noticeable compresses the soundstage, making even well performing kilobuck IEMs sound pedestrian. And then I have a few dongles that sound mostly the same. And then “next level” sources that extend the soundstage and reveals more micro details. And then there is a borrowed R2R one that sounds different than anything else. Some IEMs respond immediately to source rolling. Some are very stubborn like the U12T and the JD7. Hard to justify, hard to generalise.

To be fair, swapping and tinkering to see what fits and what’s not might be an addictive aspect of this hobby. Try this IEM with this source, swap this tip, change this setting, that setting, to squeeze just a bit of whatever you like out of the sound might be the fun. I mean there are more destructive and expensive hobby out there

 

[PhonoPhi]

Assuming that you are not being sarcastic, I agree about the source differences. (Still not convinced about the sound of cable, until I hear the change myself). I have a DAP that noticeable compresses the soundstage, making even well performing kilobuck IEMs sound pedestrian. And then I have a few dongles that sound mostly the same. And then “next level” sources that extend the soundstage and reveals more micro details. And then there is a borrowed R2R one that sounds different than anything else. Some IEMs respond immediately to source rolling. Some are very stubborn like the U12T and the JD7. Hard to justify, hard to generalise.

To be fair, swapping and tinkering to see what fits and what’s not might be an addictive aspect of this hobby. Try this IEM with this source, swap this tip, change this setting, that setting, to squeeze just a bit of whatever you like out of the sound might be the fun. I mean there are more destructive and expensive hobby out there

I am 100% serious (dead serious) about the sources.
I mentioned that I spent a lot of time and money trying to match the signature of my old DAP that seriously affected my IEM selection (know thy sources, that is their colouring, became a hard-learned wisdom). Having 20+ (largely DAC) sources also taught me that a simple good DAC, like Apple one, can do a lot (but not everything).

I do not want to start a dispute about R2R ......just good colouring/processing may not need to be expensive, unless one likes it to be unique to feel special and unique...

A good way to go is to have a combination of a source-adaptive unit, like some good expensive IEMs or outright DSP unit, like in the Droplet. Alternatively, it is the "Andromeda" way, when even the charging level of the battery may matter, and a lot of discoveries

 

[o0genesis0o]

I am 100% serious (dead serious) about the sources.
I mentioned that I spent a lot of time and money trying to match the signature of my old DAP that seriously affected my IEM selection (know thy sources, that is their colouring, became a hard-learned wisdom). Having 20+ DAC sources also taught me that a simple good DAC can do a lot (but not everything).

I do not want to start a dispute about R2R ......just good colouring/processing may not need to be expensive, unless one likes it to be unique to feel special and unique...

A good way to go is to have a combination of a source-adaptive unit, like some good expensive IEMs or outright DSP unit, like in the Droplet. Alternatively, it is the Andromeda way, when the charging level of the battery may matter, and a lot of discoveries

Yup, totally agree about the R2R. Cool, but too expensive for novelty. I prefer a delta sigma DAP with some clever harmonic distortion mixed in for a bit coloring, rather than the outright syrupy sound. But these R2R DAP bring interesting flavour to the table for those who are bored of usual stuffs.

I just watched this video:


The KiwiEars Cadenza kicks ass. I might buy one to try. It also shows that one should not ask addicted audiophiles for recommendations. We want details, soundstage, resolution, yadda yadda. Normal people just want some music

 

[Leonarfd]

I just watched this video:

Fun video, also watched it. We do value sound different than people that are new or none audiophiles.

Hilarious when they are guessing prices. But kinda reasonable, for example Meteor look cheap, B2 looks more premium, same for U12. Cadenza still shocked me, would believe it looked cheap at that cost.

 

[o0genesis0o]

Fun video, also watched it. We do value sound different than people that are new or none audiophiles.

Hilarious when they are guessing prices. But kinda reasonable, for example Meteor look cheap, B2 looks more premium, same for U12. Cadenza still shocked me, would believe it looked cheap at that cost.

I’m shocked that the meteor is not bassy and clear enough though. I always thought it is clear, bassy, and spacious, based on reviews.

The 7Hz Legato should perform really well with casual listeners and beginners. Very groovy and easy to listen.

 

[Leonarfd]

I’m shocked that the meteor is not bassy and clear enough though. I always thought it is clear, bassy, and spacious, based on reviews.

The 7Hz Legato should perform really well with casual listeners and beginners. Very groovy and easy to listen.

Yeah, Meteor shouldn't be bass light, also have quite good treble and extension looking at graphs and reviews.

Did something similar with friends letting them test headphones.

All that has tested my Verite and Aeolus prefer Aeolus. Less resolution, bassier, less treble. None Audiophile people do prefer that.

But when guessing price they think the Verite is expensive and for example my DT770 is cheap. Might have to do with design and wood.

 

[PhonoPhi]

I’m shocked that the meteor is not bassy and clear enough though. I always thought it is clear, bassy, and spacious, based on reviews.

The 7Hz Legato should perform really well with casual listeners and beginners. Very groovy and easy to listen.

I am not surprised - the fit can be individual, as correctly disclaimed, and one needs some time to adapt from previous listening preferences.
A good hype for Cadenza though, it could be any other decent IEM instead, based on reviews here (I decisively resisted a temptation of getting and trying one ), just enjoying comparison of simple Hola, LinLong, Aria, HZ Mirror, ESX, BL03, and added Fiio F5 from the depth of the drawers.

 

[Nimweth]

Perhaps this post should be described as a "rediscovery" but I have been digging through my forgotten IEMs and got out my Elecom CB1000s. They are a hybrid, 1 DD 9mm + 1 piezo, dual concentric, described as a PDD (Piezo-Dynamic Driver). They have a large acoustic chamber, large vent and MMCX interface. I connected them to my Hidizs AP80 Pro X via 2.5mm balanced cable. They are very tip sensitive and I tried numerous tips before finding the best fit which was with some hybrid foam/silicone tips I got with (careful, I'm going to swear!) the Trinity Audio Master. Thus equipped I was blown away. With the recent appearance of new IEMs with piezo drivers I have to say these have the best implementation of the piezo driver I have so far heard, superior to the BQEYZ Summer, GK10 and MT300. Transient attack is exceptional, timbre natural and with a spacious soundstage. Does anyone else have these and what do they think of them? I got mine from eBay a few years ago for around 50 GBP.

 

[obileye obiyemi]

 

[AmericanSpirit]

Fun video, also watched it. We do value sound different than people that are new or none audiophiles.

Hilarious when they are guessing prices. But kinda reasonable, for example Meteor look cheap, B2 looks more premium, same for U12. Cadenza still shocked me, would believe it looked cheap at that cost.

majority of people value sound based on gain level, from my experience and by observations through various blind tests.

The higher the gain, clearer the sound, and general perception is “it sounds more lively”.

Actual resolution, Timbral Accuracy, Sound imaging, sound stage and positioning aren’t a concern for general people, as far as sound is “clear” it translates to “good”.

And we see mainstream music follows that rule and use super heavy compressors to pack maximum full gain in mixing, with top end chopped off for details (lossy compressor applied).

 

[AmericanSpirit]

Great review, very detailed from Akros!

Haha overly vivid, another take on coloration, from timbral accuracy and neutrality perspective, HEXA / P5 could be a better choice, I like those pros / cons analytical walk through on many aspects.

I do see why Akross loves P5, it’s academically tuned, for mid and upper, very sophisticated and timbral accuracy is very high. However, P5‘s bass isn’t academic, it’s boosted and heavy hitting, actually very deep deep sounding speaker woofer like approach, with weakness on details articulation as well as image positioning (The bass is only coming from one set of direction to my perception, as if you are hearing a movie theater with loud speaker)

Sadly looks like SR5 didn’t fit with Akros’s ear, but hey there is no one size fit all