[B9Scrambler]

To those looking forward to my sound impressions of the DMG, they aren't coming unless I can get a replacement. It's developed a ~10 dB channel imbalance. So, here are the rest of the pics I took for the review. At least you can ogle those until your DMG arrives.

*Edit: Replacement will be provided soon.*

Spoiler: pics

 

[Nabillion_786]

https://zhizhizhi.com/a/bgvp-dmg/

This is the only review of the dmg's I found in the whole net. However, it is in chinese and I set it to auto translate to hopefully get an idea. After reading the whole thing, I've never been as confused in my entire life.

 

[Zerohour88]

I talked with the seller about these. He says they're using the same drivers as the t88k, with an additional chinese made 30017. That makes it knowles 31618 for bass, and 30265 for mids and 3-30017 for treble. I'm not sure about the stores authenticity though, because Mr Z (the actual Toneking owner and tuning master)says he's not made a T10k at all, not is he developing one. The store also has "Toneking hybrid" that uses the same shell as the T4, T66s and T88k. I will only purchase from the official Toneking store and hotfi, as they're official distributors for Toneking.

yeah, looked around on the taobao official store too, only the new TO600 600ohm earbuds are up. And the pic for the "TK10" is same as the T66k. Credit to Toneking, they're trying to streamline their products so the separation is clearer.

there's the odd 5 BA before they released the T4, T88k and then T66s. As you can see on the official store, only the T88k is clearly labeled as such.

then there's this, which is a bit cheaper but from what I can see, same as the T66s?

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-15592547460.33.11857ed54hnfne&id=573625998065

 

[demo-to]

I talked with the seller about these. He says they're using the same drivers as the t88k, with an additional chinese made 30017. That makes it knowles 31618 for bass, and 30265 for mids and 3-30017 for treble. I'm not sure about the stores authenticity though, because Mr Z (the actual Toneking owner and tuning master)says he's not made a T10k at all, not is he developing one. The store also has "Toneking hybrid" that uses the same shell as the T4, T66s and T88k. I will only purchase from the official Toneking store and hotfi, as they're official distributors for Toneking.

I have to raise my hand and say CAUTION!
I ordered my T88K from the AVCCK store - the same store offering the T10K, now. Prior to the purchase I asked them if they really offer the original T88K which they answered with "Yes". So I bought it to a very good price.

When selling my T88K again I collected some pictures of the T88K and I could see that there are differences at the nozzle. My T88K had a metal nozzle. On the pictures of all sellers except AVCCK, Toneking and Hotfi I can find pictures of a plastic molded nozzle (within the cavity).

This leads me to several conclusions:
1. My metal nozzle type is either a fake T88K or the original one
2. The plastic nozzle type is either a fake T88K or the original one
3. both variants are original and Toneking just switched within the production or somehow throws repair metal nozzles on the cavity once they comes in somehow damaged from the sub-supplier

Can someone with a "hot wire" (german english, means "good connections") to Toneking maybe clarify? Think this might avoid purchasing from the black sheeps if there are some on Aliexpress

 

[geagle]

Can someone with a "hot wire" (german english, means "good connections") to Toneking maybe clarify? Think this might avoid purchasing from the black sheeps if there are some on Aliexpress

I don't have any kind of privileged connection with Toneking, so can't say much about that. I can just offer another data point, in that I got my T88K from Penon audio, who I consider to be a good and trustable vendor (as I bought quite a bit of stuff from them over several years, and they always behaved well and professionally), and mine have plastic nozzles. Penon only has a selection of Tonekings on offer, though, not everything.

 

[HungryPanda]

All I know is I My Toneking TK2 has metal nozzles

 

[demo-to]

Received the Hisenior B5+ just a few minutes ago.

Only by these few minutes and listening time this seams to be THE REAL DEAL!

What a price performance ratio.

While I couldn't share the joy with the Toneking TK2 which HungryPanda does I fully in line with him with the Hinsenior B5+

This could even replace my Rose Mini4 I have the early feeling.

Very first impression:
well balanced out, no really peaks, a fair compromise between analytical and musical, nice sparkle in the treble but no way fatiguing. I can use the stock cable and silicone tips and this arrangement sounds good. No need to tame down something with foam tips. It's like the Toneking T4 but with a tad more musicality. I enjoy and let you know more once I have more listening time. So far, I am impressed! And this for the price is me worth a "wow!" and lets me thinking over what the more expensive Hisenior models might reproduce of my music collection. Cannot even imagine….

 

[tomscy2000]

I hope it turns out good.

 

[4Real]

https://zhizhizhi.com/a/bgvp-dmg/

This is the only review of the dmg's I found in the whole net. However, it is in chinese and I set it to auto translate to hopefully get an idea. After reading the whole thing, I've never been as confused in my entire life.

This review made me smile translated

As mentioned above, DMG is suitable for those who love toss, but it can also be used as a fever reduction without changing the catheter and listening to music.

 

[crabdog]

I hope it turns out good.

YES!

 

[jant71]

KC09 wasn't that well received so not sure why any real excitement for the KC07. Is it supposed to be better even with a lower model no. ?

KC09 jumped to $99, was solid, but disappointed the expectations quite a few had from the KC06.

Those were the days. HAVI and Ostry etc. were gonna kick ass with their follow-ups but it never materialized

 

[thejoker13]

yeah, looked around on the taobao official store too, only the new TO600 600ohm earbuds are up. And the pic for the "TK10" is same as the T66k. Credit to Toneking, they're trying to streamline their products so the separation is clearer.

there's the odd 5 BA before they released the T4, T88k and then T66s. As you can see on the official store, only the T88k is clearly labeled as such.

then there's this, which is a bit cheaper but from what I can see, same as the T66s?

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-15592547460.33.11857ed54hnfne&id=573625998065

I heard the the white ones are a 6 BA like the T66s, except it's using sonion drivers for the lows. The specs are slightly different as a result of the different drivers as well. I haven't been able to get much more info other than that.

 

[thejoker13]

I have to raise my hand and say CAUTION!
I ordered my T88K from the AVCCK store - the same store offering the T10K, now. Prior to the purchase I asked them if they really offer the original T88K which they answered with "Yes". So I bought it to a very good price.

When selling my T88K again I collected some pictures of the T88K and I could see that there are differences at the nozzle. My T88K had a metal nozzle. On the pictures of all sellers except AVCCK, Toneking and Hotfi I can find pictures of a plastic molded nozzle (within the cavity).

This leads me to several conclusions:
1. My metal nozzle type is either a fake T88K or the original one
2. The plastic nozzle type is either a fake T88K or the original one
3. both variants are original and Toneking just switched within the production or somehow throws repair metal nozzles on the cavity once they comes in somehow damaged from the sub-supplier

Can someone with a "hot wire" (german english, means "good connections") to Toneking maybe clarify? Think this might avoid purchasing from the black sheeps if there are some on Aliexpress

This is a very good post and is something I've been trying to get answers to. Apparently, and this is where it gets strange and somewhat confusing, both nozzle styles are legitimate. They have 2 tiers for all the semi customs models. One being the more expensive option, and it includes the non-metal nozzle. The cheaper line of T3, T4, T66s and T88k have the metal nozzle. Both are supposed to contain the same drivers and same tuning, but with differnet manufacturing costs, hence the different asking prices.Both contain the same packaging and accessories though. I would love to see a frequency graph of a metal nozzle one, vs the acrylic one and just see if it's exactly the same. It's always interesting in chifi land!!

 

[jant71]

Due to popular demand we now have this... https://www.adv-sound.com/collections/wired-earphones/products/gt3-superbass

vs. the originals' tuning...

 

[tomscy2000]

KC09 wasn't that well received so not sure why any real excitement for the KC07. Is it supposed to be better even with a lower model no. ?

Dunno about where it's supposed to be positioned, but perhaps, if it's actually a lower tier model, it could end up having better value for money.

There's also the Whizzer hybrid:

Standard dual BA + dynamic, inside curvature looks comfy, and it's now 2-pin instead of MMCX