[Vonbuddy]

That pricing isn’t competitive enough in the market of 2023 IMHO. Major volumes are $sub 50, Sonion BA barely adds $10 bare cost to dual DD replacement.
$10 for 12mm LCP (Hola is $18.99 for this 12mm LCP)
$30-40 for Sonion 2389
Even add rest of the cost, $100 is a bit of too much on profit margin. Timmy charges $30 per set?

I see competitive pricing for Galileo as $65 ($60 + $5 Timmy thanks).

If I was in charge of pricing

$65 regular offer + $7 timmy thanks = $72.

Now they ask for $100.

Too greedy.

It’s not that I can’t buy, but it’s more of exchanges on pricing rationale. “Give us your “ I can hear from that price tag.

I haven't bought the Hexa yet. Sounds like money might be better spent there, but I like Timmy.

 

[gadgetgod]

Hello friends,

I hope you all are doing great, I just posted my written review for the Sennheiser IE200. Actually bought this for random rough usage(was having trouble using Meteor at the Gym so needed one for daily use). Ended up liking it a lot and spending most of my time the past few days with it lol. Please enjoy the writeup.

https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/sennheiser-ie-200.26289/reviews#review-30171

 

[gadgetgod]

My biggest concern with the Galileo is that I have a very different music library than Timmy, he is very K-pop/jpop and female vocal as I have understood from his videos.

Still might give it a shot.

I enjoy the pair, it's quite smooth sounding. I mean literally doesn't sound offensive at all. Also quite open and smooth sounding. I just want some more punch in the lower end lol.

 

[lushmelody]

That pricing isn’t competitive enough in the market of 2023 IMHO. Major volumes are $sub 50, Sonion BA barely adds $10 bare cost to dual DD replacement.
$10 for 12mm LCP (Hola is $18.99 for this 12mm LCP)
$30-40 for Sonion 2389
Even add rest of the cost, $100 is a bit of too much on profit margin. Timmy charges $30 per set?

I see competitive pricing for Galileo as $65 ($60 + $5 Timmy thanks).

If I was in charge of pricing

$65 regular offer + $7 timmy thanks = $72.

Now they ask for $100.

Too greedy.

It’s not that I can’t buy, but it’s more of exchanges on pricing rationale. “Give us your “ I can hear from that price tag.

Yeah, weird pricing for just 2 drivers nowadays. Even a year ago there was GS Audio selling a 3 driver IEM +Sonion at less price.

Another thing is that there are a bunch of reviews and a solo Sonion is not enough for a big technicalities improvement over the current $20 single DDs. Its a beautiful set and the tuning is great, but its not 2020 anymore.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

How's ie200 against ie300?

IE200 is more balanced, but lacks the extension or the wideness and tallness of the IE300's stage and imaging picture. IE300 has intrusive mids. IE200 doesn't, but the highs are much more polite, so it gives it a perception of being not as resolving and engaging.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

I bought my Original HiBy R5 in June 2020. It's still working and has the best form factor of any IEM I have had. This HiBy R6 Gen III looks good, at a good price. I need to control my button finger. Anyone compared it to the iBasso DX170? How does it compare in use?

With a DX170 and the A306, I don't need this. Plus my R2 is currently behaving and working, so if I need a Hiby fix, I can always use that (while eyeballing that useless brick of an R5 laying on the table).

 

[gooberbm]

Another thing is that there are a bunch of reviews and a solo Sonion is not enough for a big technicalities improvement over the current $20 single DDs

I dunno if I can agree with this, before hearing Galileo. I have a lot of reservations but “not a technical upgrade” is something I’d have to judge with my own ears, because there are several $80-100 1DD sets that are absolute upgrades on the under-$50 crowd (Olina, JD7, EA500).

I don’t think I can talk myself into Galileo at $100, but that’s a different issue

 

[lushmelody]

I dunno if I can agree with this, before hearing Galileo. I have a lot of reservations but “not a technical upgrade” is something I’d have to judge with my own ears, because there are several $80-100 1DD sets that are absolute upgrades on the under-$50 crowd (Olina, JD7, EA500).

I don’t think I can talk myself into Galileo at $100, but that’s a different issue

Just a brief of all that I watched/read. I was hyping it and I like Timmy, but what they are charging does not meet what we can get of hardware at that price range

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

An adapter should never change the signal in anyway, when ordering a cable with 3.5mm and 4.4mm they are the same cable the whole way to the jack.

Then inside the jack it's connected with separat ground for each ear on balanced or the ground is summed together on 3.5mm single ended. This also the same what happens inside a converter for 4.4mm to the 3.5mm.

If your afraid of a change just get something like this, then it's no cable inside the adapter changing anything.



Also avoid impedance adapter as they will change the sound.

UGreen are excellent adapters. I have several, along with my ddHifi adapters (which are fantastic).

 

[Vonbuddy]

I enjoy the pair, it's quite smooth sounding. I mean literally doesn't sound offensive at all. Also quite open and smooth sounding. I just want some more punch in the lower end lol.

Knowing you like punch, would you buy the Hexa over the Galileo? I realize neither of these likely have the punch you like.

 

[RetroE83]

That pricing isn’t competitive enough in the market of 2023 IMHO. Major volumes are $sub 50, Sonion BA barely adds $10 bare cost to dual DD replacement.
$10 for 12mm LCP (Hola is $18.99 for this 12mm LCP)
$30-40 for Sonion 2389
Even add rest of the cost, $100 is a bit of too much on profit margin. Timmy charges $30 per set?

I see competitive pricing for Galileo as $65 ($60 + $5 Timmy thanks).

If I was in charge of pricing

$65 regular offer + $7 timmy thanks = $72.

Now they ask for $100.

Too greedy.

It’s not that I can’t buy, but it’s more of exchanges on pricing rationale. “Give us your “ I can hear from that price tag.

I had a feeling a lot of the cost was going towards the Sonion BA, but costs could’ve been driven down by maybe using less glitzy shells, cheaper packaging, less cable accessories. I wanted to try it out out of curiosity but not at the asking price. When the D13 came out, I thought it was also a bit overpriced at the $199 Canadian dollars on Amazon, even if it is a large single DD.

 

[AmericanSpirit]

How good full premium resin shell x single BA (Knowles ED29689 unverified custom full range BA, maybe Knowles /Maybe Sonion) can be?

▶︎As usual personal purchase ($21 + tax with Flo Audio’s Store discount; you can buy their single DD Calla for the same price)

Vent Hole

▶︎trying with Stock cable & ear tips

Impression: Quite good! Tuning is mid-centric, natural bass floor, slight hint of resolutions, it does better than Neon.

Unlike ER4, Lily is designed to run on daily used phones, it runs on almost all sources.

For $21+ tax, I can definitely recommend Lily as introduction to soft listening. It sounds fuller than what I expected from a typical “compact“ sounding single BA.

I like Lily over QoA Vesper, they both share same traits, warm neutral with upper mid spotlighting, however Vesper’s dynamic driver leave a long long transient tails which reduces visibility. Meanwhile Lily‘s mid-bass leaves no mess, a clean decay. It matches better for this tuning.

Lily is a re-discovery of “ah! You can play safe on mid-bass even with almost offensive floor of mid-bleed, single BA somehow balance out note weight“.

I’m pretty sure Feaulle’s H570 ear tips can lower this mid-bass, and make Lily more neutral sounding one, will try ear tip and cable roll later. Maybe Lily isn’t a Dunu Titan S beater, but it has more personality, I quite like Lily’s feather touch tuning.

Just found FR of Neon vs ER4S vs Lily and Calla on the same scale.

QoA Vesper and KBEar Neon as a cross anchor

I guess fuller sense as a single BA comes from mid bass floor.
Some reports Lily changes behavior under different OI, I may play around this later.

▶︎Tonal impression:
top note of midrange harmony
mid note of warmth
bottom note of sense of transparency

▶︎speciality
Lily can express the “ennui” nuance. It handles old recording tracks with good intention. I’m enjoying Waltz for Debby by Bill Evans, old old poor recording even remastered it has that monochrome tonality, Lily does great job playing back this tracks. Wood bass is more subtle as but still audible, it is how you’d hear in nice contemporary restaurants.

(If you visit Toronto, Canada, this George Restaurant has nice set of meal with jazz band with very reasonable price)

▶︎Versatility
Lily is one of the very versatile IEM, in a sense for audio enthusiasts with multiple cables, ear tips, cables, playing devices. It changes the way it sound on each small set up change

I’ve rolled cables nearby, PWA Ignis, Hakugei Sea-Elf, Linsoul LCS08, PWA Copper 28 V2, and noticed Lily is a nice reference monitor for cable swap. It renders unique tuning for the cables very well.

Ear tips = Feaulle Latex H570
LPF = Short Delay Sharp Roll Off
LO = AK4497EQ direct line out

PWA Ignis x Lily = Mid-bass lifted, as well as 15khz+ UHF, not a good match.

Hakugei Sea-Elf x Lily = Weird nosal lower mid boost. Weird

Linsoul LSC08 x Lily = Sub-bass and 10khz boost, U-tuning. Not a good match.

PWA Copper 28 V2 x Lily = overall bass floor lift, 12khz lift, good pair so far.

▶︎Stock tuning and Image Positioning
A-B test with Softears RSV

Stock cable x Lily = Great paring, I do believe Floaudio tuned Lily with stock cable set up in mind. Actually Best matching among all above. Wow. Imaging focus and diffusion field is definitely anchored with this stock cable. Recabling may not even be needed. I’ve A-B tested Fily (w/ H570 tips) with stock cable and Softears RSV with PWA Copper 28 V2 for imaging positioning accuracy, and focusing, and fairly surprised by at least accuracy on imaging focus portion. Imaging depth and positioning on Lily still belongs to flat 2D surface, when compared to 3D projecting RSV.

LPF matching = my default on AK4497EQ LPF is resolution focused “low Dispersion”, but for Lily, “Short Delay Sharp Roll Off“ has better synergy . Transient response will have better imaging focus and image depth. Diffusion Field will have wider stage.


Now I’m starting to trust Flo Audio’s tuning, I will try their dynamic Calla.

 

[lushmelody]

I had a feeling a lot of the cost was going towards the Sonion BA, but costs could’ve been driven down by maybe using less glitzy shells, cheaper packaging, less cable accessories. I wanted to try it out out of curiosity but not at the asking price. When the D13 came out, I thought it was also a bit overpriced at the $199 Canadian dollars on Amazon, even if it is a large single DD.

Yeah, a big flop... At least not like 7hz Eternal. While both brands planars had good sales...

Galileo reminds me of ThieAudio Legacy 2 that was also $99 and had same dilemma: great accessories, but underwhelming hardware for price

 

[gadgetgod]

Knowing you like punch, would you buy the Hexa over the Galileo? I realize neither of these likely have the punch you like.

I have not heard the Hexa bro. Although I have the QKX x HBB Khan. Some people say they sound similar. I like its bass response, I mean that sub-bass on it is drooling.
Also please don't get me wrong on the Galileo, it has a very good midrange and treble response. Basically things that sound inoffensive and smooth are my cup of tea. But they should also not sound very dark or something.

 

[lushmelody]

I have not heard the Hexa bro. Although I have the QKX x HBB Khan. Some people say they sound similar. I like its bass response, I mean that sub-bass on it is drooling.
Also please don't get me wrong on the Galileo, it has a very good midrange and treble response. Basically things that sound inoffensive and smooth are my cup of tea. But they should also not sound very dark or something.

It would be interesting know how it competes against Audiosense AQ4 that is currently at same price