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Jul 22, 2022 at 3:37 AM Post #63,917 of 101,798
DM mids are its best trait and anyone that has it can confirm you that. Keep in mind flatter graphs like that are a bit deceiving.
Crinacle's graph actually looks a bit better, though I'm not sure about accuracy between the two. Still a bit of bleed either way, I didn't like the ER2XR for example for the same reason. It just doesn't hit ground level fast enough going up the scale, so it sounds a touch slow/muddy.
 
Jul 22, 2022 at 4:07 AM Post #63,918 of 101,798
Crinacle's graph actually looks a bit better, though I'm not sure about accuracy between the two. Still a bit of bleed either way, I didn't like the ER2XR for example for the same reason. It just doesn't hit ground level fast enough going up the scale, so it sounds a touch slow/muddy.

My graph:

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I really like Ety ER2XR, but that fit is a killer deal, literally 😂
 
Jul 22, 2022 at 4:10 AM Post #63,919 of 101,798
KAI is gonna be too sharp at 10k, remember BGGAR's graphs are smoothed, and there are no other treble peaks to balance it.

This is correct, will be tizzy at double peaks on 10-12khz, and dunno HBB always like those kind of "valley of trap" I called it valley of trap because actually it will sounded smooth but actually lost a lot of treble details at 6khz. Should be dip on 5khz, little boost on 6khz, absolute dip at 7khz and then boost for air at 8khz, not big valley of trap from 5khz to the 8khz. HBB said he didn't hear something missing, but at least for me lot of details are gone there.
Those great with trebles details : Z1R, u12t, monarch mk II (although a bit different boost and dip, thieaudio take 5khz boost and 6khz dip), lot of TOTLs, Blessing 2, S8
Those with valley of trap and sharing same fate : Shuoer EJ7 (the EJ07M is bit better but still..) , mofasest trio, Mangird Tea 1, etc.
 
Jul 22, 2022 at 7:06 AM Post #63,920 of 101,798

https://www.linsoul.com/collections/all/products/kz-as16-pro?variant=43093693268185

KZ AS16 Pro 16BA Balanced Armature Units Earphones​

  • Break high price barrier8 BA units on each side, flagship-level configuration.
  • Three-channel professional conduit structure, sophisticated electronic frequency division.
  • Advanced metal inlay resin processHigh purity braided silver-plated cable with 2 pin changeable interface design.


Black / With MIC Black / No MIC Cyan / With MIC Cyan / No MIC

$56.00 USD
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Jul 22, 2022 at 7:25 AM Post #63,921 of 101,798

https://www.linsoul.com/collections/all/products/kz-as16-pro?variant=43093693268185

KZ AS16 Pro 16BA Balanced Armature Units Earphones​

  • Break high price barrier8 BA units on each side, flagship-level configuration
  • Three-channel professional conduit structure, sophisticated electronic frequency division
  • Advanced metal inlay resin processHigh purity braided silver-plated cable with 2 pin changeable interface design.


Black / With MIC Black / No MIC Cyan / With MIC Cyan / No MIC

$56.00 USD1A786A3D-B7FB-439B-B3F9-EC3E2D3DD3E4.jpeg

Be careful on your sources as OI will change its tuning. Proof:

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Credits to @paulwasabii
 
Jul 22, 2022 at 7:43 AM Post #63,922 of 101,798
Jul 22, 2022 at 7:51 AM Post #63,923 of 101,798

https://www.linsoul.com/collections/all/products/kz-as16-pro?variant=43093693268185

KZ AS16 Pro 16BA Balanced Armature Units Earphones​

  • Break high price barrier8 BA units on each side, flagship-level configuration.
  • Three-channel professional conduit structure, sophisticated electronic frequency division.
  • Advanced metal inlay resin processHigh purity braided silver-plated cable with 2 pin changeable interface design.


Black / With MIC Black / No MIC Cyan / With MIC Cyan / No MIC

$56.00 USD1A786A3D-B7FB-439B-B3F9-EC3E2D3DD3E4.jpeg
I wonder how this will fare against its pricier older siblings?
there are several KZ/CCA at $80+ or few even $100+
 
Jul 22, 2022 at 7:57 AM Post #63,924 of 101,798
I wonder how this will fare against its pricier older siblings?
there are several KZ/CCA at $80+ or few even $100+
The review I saw said they were good for orchestral music though a little intense for rock or EDM.
 
Jul 22, 2022 at 9:14 AM Post #63,925 of 101,798
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Jul 22, 2022 at 9:19 AM Post #63,926 of 101,798
Been a loooong time since my last post but I'm rocking now a ifi go blu and it's been a breath of fresh air. Paired with some tripowin Mele's and it's smooth and fun. Curious I didn't hit this place up and bought them blind wonder what most here make of em.
 
Jul 22, 2022 at 10:11 AM Post #63,927 of 101,798
I wonder how this will fare against its pricier older siblings?
there are several KZ/CCA at $80+ or few even $100+

Ironically, the more expensive KZs close to $100 USD were whacked by most consumers and reviewers. It is not about stuffing as many drivers into a shell and going down a driver nuclear race. Tuning and implementation is of the highest priority. KZ's cheaper products and those with lesser drivers seem way more popular and have better ratings, indeed KZ seems to do the best work at the sub $30 range.

It is to be expected that at the near $100 range, there are a lot of established big boys to compete against, and people are more forgiving of a cheaper priced set with flaws.

Oh ya and more importantly, folks also seem to forget about the KZ multi driver scandals of the past haha. Honestly I'm not holding my breath over this KZ AS16 Pro, better wait for first adopter impressions first!
 
Jul 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Post #63,928 of 101,798

I have no experience with UA2/UA5, so we have to go to paper.

Shanling UA2
Portable USB DAC/AMP

- Advanced model of UA line
- Interchangeable cables, using USB-C connector
- Special mode offering compatibility with Nintendo Switch
- 3.5mm Single ended & 2.5mm Balanced output
- ESS ES9038Q2M DAC & Ricore RT6863 amplifier
- Up to 195mW@32 output power
- Hi-Res support up to PCM 32/768 and DSD512
- Advanced settings available in companion app


Shanling UA3
Portable USB DAC/AMP

Input 1x USB-C
Outputs-Single-ended Jack 3.5mm,1x Balanced Jack 4.4mm
DAC Chip-AKM AK4493SEQ DAC
Amplification chip-Dual Ricore RT6963
Output power-Up to 211mW @ 32 Ohm
Supported sampling rates-PCM up to 32bit 768kHz-DSD up to DSD512
OS Compatibility-Android-Windows-Mac-iOS
UAC Support -UAC 2.0,UAC 1.0


The UA5, I will research in my review.
Thanks a lot, the main deciding factor seems to be the 2.5mm vs the 4.4mm output.
 

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