[Lamim Rashid]

Hisenior is a customs maker. But as you say, I won't be surprised if GS Audio OEMs for them or vice versa too, the CHIFI industry is actually very interconnected, or they source the same drivers and shells from the same handful of suppliers.

For GS Audio gear, maybe you can ask @RikudouGoku as he has tried their lineup (I haven't), I remember reading some of their gear are very good, but some are misses.

Yeah good iems if you can find the tuning you like because they're all tuned pretty differently, probably an attempt to cater to as many different tastes as possible, but most of them have that very high presence region gain that asian iem market audiophile market tends to favor, which is what makes them kind of a hit or a miss. Some of them also have a strange very flat FR graphs, so the mids are *very* forward in those iems. Either way looks like you can get the same iems from hisenior, but for cheaper if you just buy them from gsaudio.

 

[PhonoPhi]

Hisenior is a customs maker. But as you say, I won't be surprised if GS Audio OEMs for them or vice versa too, the CHIFI industry is actually very interconnected, or they source the same drivers and shells from the same handful of suppliers.

For GS Audio gear, maybe you can ask @RikudouGoku as he has tried their lineup (I haven't), I remember reading some of their gear are very good, but some are misses.

I thought before about possible relationship of HiSenior and GS.

HiSenior was there quite few years prior to GS. Based on my order (U4) at HiSenior - I would think they do it themselves - they made the custom order very fast, great communication (hardly a middleman), and overall HiSenior is at the very top of my "customer experience" (above and beyond).

So either GS can be possibly some affiliate/branch of HiSenior or GS could use HiSenior designs... as they starting point (?)

So it would be really great to see HiSenior reincarnated in GS, and quite sad cannibalized by...

 

[Lamim Rashid]

I thought before about possible relationship of HiSenior and GS.

HiSenior was there quite few years prior to GS. Based on my order (U4) at HiSenior - I would think they do it themselves - they made the custom order very fast, great communication (hardly a middleman), and overall HiSenior is at the very top of my "customer experience" (above and beyond).

So either GS can be possibly some affiliate/branch of HiSenior or GS could use HiSenior designs... as they starting point (?)

So it would be really great to see HiSenior reincarnated in GS, and quite sad cannibalized by...

Gs audio is not new. They've been around for a while, mainly as an oem for other companies. I believe it's only recently they started selling their own iems under their own name. Rumor is that they've made a lot of the fearless audio stuff. I couldn't tell if they're the same company, or if one is an affiliate/branch of the other but there's definitely some sort of relationship there.

 

[r31ya]

Gs audio is not new. They've been around for a while, mainly as an oem for other companies. I believe it's only recently they started selling their own iems under their own name. Rumor is that they've made a lot of the fearless audio stuff. I couldn't tell if they're the same company, or if one is an affiliate/branch of the other but there's definitely some sort of relationship there.

According to Riku, GS Audio is still related to KZ.
So its a KZ/CCA/GSa house.

Surprisingly, Quality Knowledge Zenith (QKZ) which the hailed VK4 comes from is not part of KZ/CCA/GSa family.

 

[baskingshark]

Yeah good iems if you can find the tuning you like because they're all tuned pretty differently, probably an attempt to cater to as many different tastes as possible, but most of them have that very high presence region gain that asian iem market audiophile market tends to favor, which is what makes them kind of a hit or a miss. Some of them also have a strange very flat FR graphs, so the mids are *very* forward in those iems. Either way looks like you can get the same iems from hisenior, but for cheaper if you just buy them from gsaudio.

Ya some of those "flat" FR graph types are actually more suited for stage monitoring purposes and may sound meh for music listening.

I bought their hisenior B5+ for $78 usd, it is a 5 knowles BA set which is tuned midcentric. Midcentric tunings are great for vocals but are not that great for basshead or treblehead music, kind of a niche specialist tuning as such.

 

[RikudouGoku]

According to Riku, GS Audio is still related to KZ.
So its a KZ/CCA/GSa house

No its not? GS Audio only has ties to Fearless Audio. Not sure about other brands.

 

[r31ya]

No its not? GS Audio only has ties to Fearless Audio. Not sure about other brands.

wait, did i misread?
Pretty sure i read several post mentioning KZ relation to GS. if its not you then someone else or i completely misread.

 

[warbles]

My amazing kids got me the 7 Hertz Timeless Planar for my Christmas/Birthday present, and I'm excited to be getting my first planar since I owned the RHA CL2, which I sold to purchase the Mofasest Trio (big whiff). These are the same kids who bought me my JVC FW01, which I sold to buy the Dita Truth, which was a better purchase, but just not a signature that captivated me. I hope it's as good as the CL2, and in the ballpark of my Dunu EST112, but with faster more liquid bass and extended highs?

So far reviews have been very positive, so I'm hopeful.


They should be here next week sometime?

What does "big whiff" mean?

 

[Dsnuts]

Means he didnt care for them.

 

[Lamim Rashid]

wait, did i misread?
Pretty sure i read several post mentioning KZ relation to GS. if its not you then someone else or i completely misread.

I for one have never seen any posts like that, and I don't think rikudougoku's ever said anything like that either. I think you misread or misremember friend.

 

[RCracer777]

wait, did i misread?
Pretty sure i read several post mentioning KZ relation to GS. if its not you then someone else or i completely misread.

I think you've confused GS audio with GK which is a KZ sub-brand that has only come to the marked in the last year but have been around since 2015.
They are the budget KZ's (somehow it's possible), probably using the older type drivers in new shells to get rid of old stock.

Gotta say though the GS10 kinda looks interesting, has a very similar tuning to the ZS10 Pro but with a ZAX like semi open back faceplate.

 

[PhonoPhi]

I think you've confused GS audio with GK which is a KZ sub-brand that has only come to the marked in the last year but have been around since 2015.
They are the budget KZ's (somehow it's possible), probably using the older type drivers in new shells to get rid of old stock.

Gotta say though the GS10 kinda looks interesting, has a very similar tuning to the ZS10 Pro but with a ZAX like semi open back faceplate.

GS10 are an open design, indeed, but, if anything, rather close to CCA C10 - a prominent recent trend of ChiFi where BAs are there, but somewhere somehow on a side or not even connected...

 

[lushmelody]

KZ now have experiment with several new DD from CCA-NRA "Triple Magnet DD", KZ-ZEX Pro "Updated Xun DD", and the upcoming CCA-CRA "Super thin extended treble focus DD".
Not sure how Triple magnet DD works, or what they update on the XunDD (DD with resonance chamber), or the actual sound from the new super thin DD membrane on the CRA.

But IF then KZ decided to create KZ DQ6 Pro with the current Harman-neutral tuning or Neutral with bass boost, with the new DD roster they have, it'll be pretty interesting.

They are doing actual magnets betterments contrasting a market redundant and saturated of diaphragm coatings. KZ is also being fair about DD prices (which are mostly non patented, unbranded... overpriced). But... tuning, right? Well, they are also trying to be considerate about that. I hope ZEX Pro is just the beginning of "expensive" tuning budget IEMs

 

[r31ya]

I think you've confused GS audio with GK which is a KZ sub-brand that has only come to the marked in the last year but have been around since 2015.
They are the budget KZ's (somehow it's possible), probably using the older type drivers in new shells to get rid of old stock.

Gotta say though the GS10 kinda looks interesting, has a very similar tuning to the ZS10 Pro but with a ZAX like semi open back faceplate.

Ah this, GK.
i mistook it as GS audio.
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yeah, i rarely heard kz goes for exotic diaphragm. the recent superthin-treble focus diaphragm is possibly the first time i heard kz boast about it. before its mostly just bio-polymer something.

yeah, tuning and taking care of all the little details is what important now as KZ encroaching entry mid-fi territory $70~140 (greeted by Moondrop Aria, Legacy number series, Star-series, and many more) and the mid-fi enroaching KZ territory of sub-$20 with Quarks, Tanya, and upcoming budget fiio.

KZ with its crazy hybrids always interest me and i hunt for audition it, but the old tuning usually makes me ended buying something else.
i was hunting for ZS6 and ended with second hand ATH-e40 who are much less ear torture than ZS6 and have better vocal and decent bass.
i was hunting for ZS7 and ZS10 Pro, ended with a bit pricier TFZ King series who have much better bass quality.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

DISCOVERY! Thank you to @Dobrescu George for his sparkling and unbelievably accurate review of the Hifiman RE800 Silver.

So these IEM's were originally $600 and the replacement for the RE600 Songbird 2. Now they are $150.00.

How could these single dynamic "topology driver" IEM's fly so far under the radar?! I have an idea why. First is the myth that Dr Fang and Hifiman don't know how to tune for bass. Yes, several of their IEM's, some quite notorious in a positive sense, lacked bass weight and impact. The RE400 and RE0 are examples. The RE800 silver proved this is a false myth. The bass isn't just present, it's weighty, punchy and most certainly present...WITHOUT BLEED. It's a really fast bass, hard hitting bass, deep bass, and punchy bass. The other thing that might have chased some away is the non-detachable cable? It's a high quality cable, so not a problem for me. The highs are crystalline and extended. Timbre and resolution are some of the best i've ever heard from a dynamic driver. It stomps all over the other Hifiman's in my collection, and completely destroys the Songbird. With a timbre that comes crazy close to the JVC woodie, the resolution is top notch. Not quite EST level rezzo, but within the ballpark. It's better than the Sennheisers (IE800, 100pro, 300, and 40pro), and as I said, within distance of the DUNU EST112. The soundstage is wide, but lacks a bit of 3D. I think this is where the EST112 wins. It's got a bit more 3D presentation, but gets trumped in timbre, bass punch, and the treble is clearly better on the RE800 silver. This is am extension without being hot or sharp. It's hard to explain, other than it's one of the most refined and extended trebles I've ever heard in a single dynamic. This is slightly V shaped, so it has slightly recessed vocals, but it's not anything that I would mark as a negative. The shape makes for a fun, engaging, and creamy smooth signature (lush), with good thump when called upon. Now this is OOTB. Hardly any burn in. I can only imagine how these things will sound when fully burned in? They parlay wonderful details. detail retrieval is above average, but it's not some analytical cold sound. No. The present bass keeps these warmish and detailed. Fun and engaging. The aluminum housing is so tiny. These things are comfy. I started with the stock tips, moved to the Spiral Dots++, and then settled on the UE silicone tips from my UE700. Pianos sound so effin good! Weighty and crystalline. Cymbals crash with a maturity and extension that made me smile ear to ear. These are one of the biggest surprises to come across my ears in several years. These beat my Senns, the Dita Truth, the JVC FW01, the Moondrops, the other Hifiman's, and Sony EX1000. The lack of detachable cable, v shaped sig, and lack of 3D imaging might chase some away, but it doesn't me, and it stands toe to toe with the best of my collection past and present. These will fast become a favorite, and i'm sure will flip flop back and forth with my EST112 for my most used pair. What's next? 7 Hertz Timeless. You've got quite the fight ahead of you. Good luck.