The discovery thread!

[Dobrescu George]

It is weekend my boys, so you know what this means! More time to have fun and enjoy ourselves! For this very reason, I want to bring you a video, in hopes that it will brighten your day and cure your sorrows!

Altough my content is still reviewes, I am hoping that I bring something fun and enjoyable, so here we go with my Sivga Phoenix video, a headphone made by SIVGA, with an excellent sound, and which is really portable this time around!

The price is also great, the build is great, and this is a good overall can, if you want something dynamic and punchy, with a more traditional sound ~

 

[Vladimir 198]

You can sell review samples and sell reviews themselves. No problem, IMO. When the work is paid, it's good.
But don't sell reputation and credibility. Losses are inevitable.
Just a thought.
But don’t think that I’m stupid enough not to distinguish handouts from truly critical research on the subject. Although I don't always say it, the truth will almost always come out.
This is my second thought.
Arguing with each other in this way, you do not add respect to yourself first of all.
This is the third thought.

 

[Dobrescu George]

My videos are a comedy-based review gig, not a serious reviewer thing. It is my style, I dream of becoming a comedy actor someday, not being serios while doing video works. Text and video works are entirely different things, I mention it in many videos, I want to horse around in my videos, it is my style,

If I don't make them fun and enjoyable, I don't make them at all.

 

[KutuzovGambit]

>???

I am not selling anything. I am making reviews.

I am very open about all policies on Audiophile-Heaven, they are all public. Companies can use any photos I make for their own product, and any video I make if they want.

People enjoy this headphone. I enjoy it. I stand behind everything I am saying about it, small for my ears somewhat, but I enjoy it for the sonics. Even if it seems not fully credible because Sivga is not as popular as other makers, you should try it, I am surely not the only one who liked it quite a bit

Literally comments on Facebook right now:






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Did you try this headphone and disliked it?

Or you don't enjoy my style of reviewing? My videos are a comedy-based review gig, not a serious reviewer thing. It is my style, I dream of becoming a comedy actor someday, not being serios while doing video works. Text and video works are entirely different things, I mention it in many videos, I want to horse around in my videos, it is my style,


If I don't make them fun and enjoyable, I don't make them at all.

I don’t think he was talking to you, there has been a lot of bickering lately about who‘s a shill and who’s selling their review units etc…

 

[Vladimir 198]

I don’t think he was talking to you, there has been a lot of bickering lately about who‘s a shill and who’s selling their review units etc…

absolutely
just tired of these blows in the chest and public comparison of the length of the penises.
I'm sorry.

 

[Dobrescu George]

I don’t think he was talking to you, there has been a lot of bickering lately about who‘s a shill and who’s selling their review units etc…

Woah, I actually had no idea...

absolutely
just tired of these blows in the chest and public comparison of the length of the penises.
I'm sorry.

Sorry about picking on your comment...

Some people on Youtube complain a ton about my content not being up to their standards and being too "fun", plus they say I can't speak eng properly, and it can be fatiguing when all i try to do is a bit of comedy and fun with this hobby.

I am so much into my own thing I don't really keep up with what else has been going on. Reviewing is still a second thing I am doing, my daytime job has been rough over the past few weeks.

 

[Fabulo]

So... I actually asked QKZ about the QC issues around their VK4 through both their official contact and AE store 5 days ago
Haven't gotten an email reply from their official store and the messages in AE remained unread

I don't know if I'm lucky but I have 2 pairs of QKZ VK4 (1 bought in early 2020 and 1 in mid 2021) and they both sound the same and great. The technicalities are nothing exceptional but I love their tuning, for me it's pure fun

 

[H T T]

Through my observations, some reviewers are excited about new products as IEM tech keeps advancing. Those reviewers may have a more positive "bias". Other reviewers may have a more critical "bias". I appreciate and learn from both types of reviews and reviewers. Please keep up the good, hard work everyone!.

edit: spelling

 

[joe]

MOD NOTE: I cleaned up some personal attacks in this thread. Guys, If you are going to keep attacking each other, either you'll get a vacation from the thread, the thread locked, or more. Let's stay civil. Please.

 

[PapaEmeritus]

Look at the TOTL flagship IEMs @Dsnuts bought and they are definitely not free samples.
Let me list for you: Sony IER-Z1R, Dunu Luna, Campfire Solaris, Campfire Andromeda S, iBasso IT07, Empire Ear Zeus, Tansio Mirai Spark, etc.
Did the other person buy any TOTL flagship IEMs before?

lol, what? What is the basis of this argument?

I honestly don't give a damn about who bought what and who was gifted or loaned what. All I care about is whether or not the reviewer is still able to maintain their objectivity, and thus their integrity, in their reviews.

Not everyone has the same opportunities to be able to afford multiple TOTL flagship IEMs, regardless of how upstanding they are as a reviewer, so trying to use that as some kind of metric for their moral or ethical compass as a reviewer is incredibly unfair and downright classist.

The fact that @RikudouGoku was willing to thrash a review set sent to him by one of his longtime partners (HiFiGo) because it failed to meet expectations speaks well toward his ability to remain objective in his reviews. This is especially true where the GK10 is concerned, since any criticism of that set seems to set of a tsunami of vitriol from the Geek Wold apologists.

I'd just prefer if we could leave people's personal financial matters alone, as it is incredibly impolite to pry into such things. The best approach is to compare their reviews to those of their peers and see how they align. The questions to consider when comparing and contrasting reviews:

• Do the conclusions match relatively well to what other reviewers are saying about that set?
• When the conclusions do not match, are there confounding factors such as QC issues that could have led to these discrepancies?
• When the conclusions differ, how much of that can be contributed to listener preferences?
• If the reviewer posted graphs of the set, do these broadly match those posted by other reviewers?
• Is the reviewer able to mention both positives and negatives about the set's performance as warranted? It is quite uncommon for a set to get only positive feedback with no room for improvement, and it is similarly uncommon for there to be nothing worth being positive about.
• If there are no positives to note, is there justification for being so critical?
• If there are no negatives to note, is there justification for the glowing appraisal?
• Finally you can question if there are financial incentives behind the review that might introduce bias in the review.

Just because someone gets free equipment, loaner equipment, or even if they get paid for the review, it does not mean that they cannot provide an objective review. It just means that you need to accept that this is a potential confounding factor in how they approach the review.

"All I care about is whether or not the reviewer is still able to maintain their objectivity, and thus their integrity, in their reviews." You said it perfectly and better than I did. Well said.

 

[H T T]

I honestly don't give a damn about who bought what and who was gifted or loaned what. All I care about is whether or not the reviewer is still able to maintain their objectivity, and thus their integrity, in their reviews.

Not everyone has the same opportunities to be able to afford multiple TOTL flagship IEMs, regardless of how upstanding they are as a reviewer, so trying to use that as some kind of metric for their moral or ethical compass as a reviewer is incredibly unfair and downright classist.

The fact that @RikudouGoku was willing to thrash a review set sent to him by one of his longtime partners (HiFiGo) because it failed to meet expectations speaks well toward his ability to remain objective in his reviews. This is especially true where the GK10 is concerned, since any criticism of that set seems to set of a tsunami of vitriol from the Geek Wold apologists.

I'd just prefer if we could leave people's personal financial matters alone, as it is incredibly impolite to pry into such things. The best approach is to compare their reviews to those of their peers and see how they align. The questions to consider when comparing and contrasting reviews:

• Do the conclusions match relatively well to what other reviewers are saying about that set?
• When the conclusions do not match, are there confounding factors such as QC issues that could have led to these discrepancies?
• When the conclusions differ, how much of that can be contributed to listener preferences?
• If the reviewer posted graphs of the set, do these broadly match those posted by other reviewers?
• Is the reviewer able to mention both positives and negatives about the set's performance as warranted? It is quite uncommon for a set to get only positive feedback with no room for improvement, and it is similarly uncommon for there to be nothing worth being positive about.
• If there are no positives to note, is there justification for being so critical?
• If there are no negatives to note, is there justification for the glowing appraisal?
• Finally you can question if there are financial incentives behind the review that might introduce bias in the review.

Just because someone gets free equipment, loaner equipment, or even if they get paid for the review, it does not mean that they cannot provide an objective review. It just means that you need to accept that this is a potential confounding factor in how they approach the review.

I don't want "objectivity"as a primary component in reviews as that is not what transducers are about. They are about character. Does anyone buy a Marshall stack over a Fender Bassman or a Strat over a Les Paul due to "objectivity"? I want a reviewer's personal experience with an IEM as a primary component of any review. fz charts are for the "objectivity" crowd.

 

[chinmie]

I don't want "objectivity"as a primary component in reviews as that is not what transducers are about. They are about character. Does anyone buy a Marshall stack over a Fender Bassman or a Strat over a Les Paul due to "objectivity"? I want a reviewer's personal experience with an IEM as a primary component of any review. fz charts are for the "objectivity" crowd.

objectivity that i would want know from a review would probably be something like "this set have more bass quantity than that set, that set have more treble roll-off than this set, this one is grainier on the treble, that one has slower attack on the... etc.
other points in a review saying this or that is" better" would be something subjective in my view.
like if i say i like my strat best going into a vox, that would be a purely subjective comment

 

[1clearhead]

1clearhead said:

I just received bad news, but hopefully I'll share some good news as well...

So, let's start with the bad news, first...
Earlier today in China, a representative from Bamboo Forest Bird (BFB) wrote to me that the owner decided that it is best for him to focus and sell the BFB LARK and BFB AMAZING in China. Then, he'll decide whether to start selling them next year overseas through Aliexpress. I tried my best to convince him, but he doesn't seem to budge. So, it seems to me that they're such a new and small company that he's still learning the trade of marketing and he might be too afraid to make such a quick move.

Now, hopefully the good news...
I am going to write to Penon Audio and see if they can somehow convince the BFB company to sell their products through them. So, fingers crossed! I hope they can communicate and work something out with each other after my letter so that they can get the BFB LARK and BFB AMAZING on the road!

I'll keep you and everyone else that's interested updated on the news from both Penon Audio and BFB talks!

NOTE: For those not willing to wait, you can always get them through Taobao globally by either a Chinese agent or get a Chinese friend to order them for you.

Reviews for the BFB Lark: If you want to see the many positive Chinese reviews for the LARK, please check out the link below…
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OFFICIAL: BAMBOO FOREST BIRD TAOBAO STORE
https://shop230644266.taobao.com/index.htm?spm=2013.1.w5002-23641726725.2.66b7780494ymWW


-Clear

Thanks Clear, appreciate your efforts!

@trumpethead,

Well, so far I haven't received any response from Penon Audio, though they may still be in talks with Bamboo Forest Bird company. I hope they can come to a conclusion and sell them through Penon Audio, but it's out of my hands now. The sound quality, especially the BFB LARKS are mind-boggling to me. I never heard such sub-bass with deep excursion come from any 6mm in my experience with micro DD's. Even though I have many more expensive and budget worthy IEM's to my library, it's ridiculous how I end up giving the BFB LARK more play time because of their awesome and very easy to listen to coherent and natural sounding signature. Nothing in its unique sound is offensive and it's the only one that sounds like a hybrid, but without any internal hybrid-like units inside. It's like hearing EST drivers inside, and this is all coming out of 6mm micro DD's. Personally, it is just outstanding in my honest and personal experience. The graph IMHO says it all...

Further more, if I get any email from Penon Audio, I'll give you a heads up and also those that are interested in the BFB LARKS as well.

-Clear

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

I ordered the CCA EST but have no idea what it's called lol Can someone remind me the official name? Though honestly, i'll probably just keep calling it the CCA EST?

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

IEMS : Ultimate Ears TF10 -- Sennheiser IE800 -- Geek Wold GK10 (RED) -- Sennheiser IE100 Pro -- DUNU EST 112 -- NiceHCK NX7 Mk III -- KZ DQ6 -- SFR MT300 -- Monster Miles Davis Trumpets -- KEF M200 -- Sony XBA300 -- UE900s (balanced) -- JVC FW08 -- CCA CST-- Shouer Tape Pro -- Sennheiser IE40 pro – Hifiman RE 00 -- UE 700 -- CCA C12 (balanced) -- Moondrop KXXS.

Cans : Status Audio CB-1. Altec Lansing MZX656.

I own all of these and some...just ran out of space for incoming, so I pruned the list, but I comment and review only that gear I have touched, held up to my ears, and played through one of the DAPs in my collection. I will not comment on anything NOT on my list, as that's a cardinal sin of audio IMHO, but if you see something on my list and are curious, and would like a comparison, please feel free to ask, and i'll take the time. Also, I've had a ton of other gear that's been sold. I think i'll make a list you can find in my inventory page, in case you'd like further comparisons? Be well and upward and onward with discoveries!