The discovery thread!
Oct 28, 2014 at 4:23 PM Post #26,386 of 106,712
  ericp10, thank you for your words. I am new-buyer of IM02 and for me it's very bright, i can't listen it. I want to change it to IM03. You are writing you love more CKR10 than IM03. Is it really good?
IM03 costs for 15$ more on a Amazon. 
But on Amazon Japan CKR10 costs less for 30$ than IM03.
Shipping from JP is not problem for me.
What is worth to choose?
Thank you much.

 
 
I am sorry Nuke142, but I don't think I can really help you make that decision. Like the CKR10 more is just a sound preference thing with me. Both the CKR10 and IM03 are fantastic (and I believe twister6 and Dsnuts when they say it will sound even better with an upgrade cable). Unless I get into my customs and the FX850, I think you will be hard pressed to find too many IEMs that will do bass better than the CKR series though. Maybe someone else who has heard both can describe to you the differences in the CKR10's and IM03's signatures. Without having the CKR10 with me right now it's hard to describe, but there is a difference (besides the difference of BA vs. Dynamic). 
 
Oct 28, 2014 at 4:24 PM Post #26,387 of 106,712
   
Very nice info ericp10! Thanks!

 
Thank you Dsnuts!
 
Thank you waynes world (you're in trouble buddy)...lol
 
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Oct 28, 2014 at 5:07 PM Post #26,388 of 106,712
Eric, fantastic write up!!!  I'm a HUGE fan of IM03 and agree 100% with every word of your impression.  Also, I would highly recommend you to look into silver-plated upgrade cable from Lunashops, reviewed here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/705687/review-of-audio-technica-ath-im01-ath-im02-ath-im03-ath-im04-ath-im50-ath-im70/795#post_10734593 - it will take IM03 sounds to another level, trust me!

I'm also glad you mentioned CKR9/CKR10 since I'm waiting to review these as well (AT US finally going to start carrying it in their store).  Also, been eyeballing A83 since I found Altone200 to be too harsh for my taste.


Thanks for review! Just ordered silver cable for my im02.
 
Oct 28, 2014 at 6:45 PM Post #26,389 of 106,712
  I have the IM03 and the A83 now. Have them both with me switching off with the Fiio X1. Wonderful synergy with both earphones and this DAP (using a 128gb micro card). First, the IM03 is the best universal 3-BA IEM I've ever heard. This is what I wished the TF10 sounded like (leaning toward warm, but with details and clarity of some of he cooler sounding BAs I've heard). And the bass is just wonderful and visceral (the sub-bass really reaches down for an all BA IEM). Is it basshead levels? No, but I can't see a basshead being disappointed with the bass. Plenty of sub-bass, but in nice balanced sound. Mids are wonderful too. I don't have the SE535 anymore, but I still have my SE530 (wrapped up in duct tape but still playing). Well, the IM03's mids handily competes with the SE530's mids. The highs have more sparkle than the SE5530. To be honest, I haven't been this impressed with an all-BA universal since the TDK BA200 and Doppios (and the IM03 beats the BA200 from head to toe). Doppios may have more clarity and transparency, but the sound is not as full as the IM03. This may be the most natural sounding all BA universal I've heard too (since the BA200). I love it. Does it beat the dual push-pull dynamic ATh-CKR9 and CKR10? No, but in some ways the three are even in sound quality. The Sound signatures are nothing alike, but all three have excellent bass. Actually, the CKR series has great bass to my ears. I prefer the CKR series (especially the CKR 10), but the IM03 isn't that far behind to my ears. One other thing about the IM03. It is really tip dependent to get the optimal sound out of it. The stock tips will not do. The way the nozzle is shaped, it's long and thick. I needed a wide bore large tip to get any type of good seal (seal is imperative), but most tips I tried failed for me. This included my got JVC Spiral Dots, UE900 and UETF10 tips. And foam tips suck the life out of the sound to me. So I've settled on some wide obscure large wide body silicon tips (an old pair Senn IE8 single-flange, and a couple pair that I don't know where they came from). Those are backups. But then I kept thinking about using a silicon tips that doesn't have such a wide bore, but has never let me down with BA universals before. Those tips would be the large Phonak grey silicons. Wow! Eureka!! These tips give me the perfect seal and sound. The IM03 doesn't need a deep seal inside of your ear canal, but it needs a solid seal. The Phonak serves this purpose. I am a happy camper.
 
 
Now, for the Fidue. I've been listening to it out of the box for about 15 minutes. I'm using the large single flange silicon stock tips. Out of the box, it has bass (sub bass included), but it's not as deep as the IM03's bass. This is not bothering me though. I expect the bass to get better as the dynamic driver opens up. The mids and highs, however have a beautiful yet smooth clarity and transparency out of the box. Comparing to the T-Peos and Dunu triple-hybrids I've heard (1 dynamic and 2-BA), I would say those two brands of hybrids had a harsher sound to my ears than the A83. Actually, the A83 is not harsh sounding at all. The Dunu 1000 and H-200s had deeper bass, but I wouldn't say the bass was better than the Fidue bass. I am going to tip roll when I get home and burn the Fidue, but out of the box I am very pleased. And yes, although I can't call it right now, I can state that the Fidue is pointing in the direction of being the best universal triple hybrid I've heard next to Aurisonics AS-2 (still king for me). Some great products are out guys. I just saw the A83 on amazon for $259. If that's price is still there, run don't walk! It's a steal at that price. ijs

I finally read through the whole post. Very good impressions and comparisons eric! I totally love reading that the IM03 is now your new beloved BA in-ear! 
 
Now I wonder how the im03 and the fidue compare after burn-in...
 
Oct 28, 2014 at 11:36 PM Post #26,390 of 106,712
  I finally read through the whole post. Very good impressions and comparisons eric! I totally love reading that the IM03 is now your new beloved BA in-ear! 
 
Now I wonder how the im03 and the fidue compare after burn-in...
 
 

Thank you vlenbo! Okay, pre-deep burn in, the A83 is one of the most satisfying universals I've heard in a long while. It scales up beautifully to amping (source: Schitt  VALI DAC and MODI amp). I'm using Spiral Dot tips and all I have right now is WOW!!! I wasn't expecting this sound. Bass is there when needed. More listening time now.
 
Oct 29, 2014 at 2:49 AM Post #26,391 of 106,712
I'm interested with the UE's silicone tips so do they need to be the "original" ones? I find them very expensive...I'd like to put 'em on my IM03 and IM70 ( or maybe FXT90) to see any improvement.
 
Oct 29, 2014 at 4:36 AM Post #26,392 of 106,712
I'm interested with the UE's silicone tips so do they need to be the "original" ones? I find them very expensive...I'd like to put 'em on my IM03 and IM70 ( or maybe FXT90) to see any improvement.

The original ones from TF10 are bit stronger,wider bores and not spherical......so which model UE tips you lookin for......if possible link it....
 
Oct 29, 2014 at 11:21 AM Post #26,394 of 106,712
The original ones from TF10 are bit stronger,wider bores and not spherical......so which model UE tips you lookin for......if possible link it....

I'm thinking about these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-pcs-Genuine-OEM-Ultimate-Ears-Silicone-Tips-for-10vi-10-5-Pro-4vi-4-Earphones-/251634548132?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item3a96967da4
 
For UE users, does the "real" UE tips include the logo around the tips? The thing is I don't know which one is preferrable; spherical or not? I'm thinkin' bout wide bores like everyone talkin' about
 
Oct 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM Post #26,396 of 106,712
https://support.logitech.com/en_us/product/ue900 - scroll to the bottom to Related Spare Parts section, there is a navigation arrow between a set of spare UE900 tips ($10), or replacement cable, or replacement hard case.
 
Oct 29, 2014 at 8:25 PM Post #26,397 of 106,712

  Eric, fantastic write up!!!  I'm a HUGE fan of IM03 and agree 100% with every word of your impression.  Also, I would highly recommend you to look into silver-plated upgrade cable from Lunashops, reviewed here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/705687/review-of-audio-technica-ath-im01-ath-im02-ath-im03-ath-im04-ath-im50-ath-im70/795#post_10734593 - it will take IM03 sounds to another level, trust me!
 
I'm also glad you mentioned CKR9/CKR10 since I'm waiting to review these as well (AT US finally going to start carrying it in their store).  Also, been eyeballing A83 since I found Altone200 to be too harsh for my taste.

 
twister, I would also recommend you to remove the filters asap on your IM50s. It will take IM50's sound to another level, trust me. 
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You'll notice how that filter veils the sound once you do it.
 
Oct 29, 2014 at 11:21 PM Post #26,398 of 106,712
OK, I just pulled the trigger on the Fidue (sounds like what someone with an accent calls his dog)...Should get it pretty soon, Amazon is generally pretty quick
Listening to Hifiman HE-560, just came, needs break in, but open, wide stage, bass really tight (but not in the "not much bass but very detailed" you read about in reviews of some bass light headphone...not a "bass monster", I suppose, but good weight, impact, tight. And, they are comfortable (more so than many on/over ears I've used). Listening through GO SE, have to try my Ray Samuels HR-2 at some point, but that means moving :rolleyes:
Time for kazillion hour break in process.
Report back on break in and the pooch when it comes from Amazon.
 
Oct 30, 2014 at 3:08 PM Post #26,399 of 106,712
OK, I just pulled the trigger on the Fidue (sounds like what someone with an accent calls his dog)...Should get it pretty soon, Amazon is generally pretty quick
Listening to Hifiman HE-560, just came, needs break in, but open, wide stage, bass really tight (but not in the "not much bass but very detailed" you read about in reviews of some bass light headphone...not a "bass monster", I suppose, but good weight, impact, tight. And, they are comfortable (more so than many on/over ears I've used). Listening through GO SE, have to try my Ray Samuels HR-2 at some point, but that means moving
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Time for kazillion hour break in process.
Report back on break in and the pooch when it comes from Amazon.

Woof woof woof!  high end portal gates open! congratulations!!! doctor jazz:
do your Fidue tiara duties and report back as soon as impossible!
i just rewired my entire headphone listening computer station, and getting much better sound with
PS audio duet in the system as power source...highly recommended addition to listening stations...
about to review new Brainwavz S0 iem phones, still on burn in bench.  over and out
 
Oct 30, 2014 at 4:21 PM Post #26,400 of 106,712
The A83 is amazing! You will love it!!
OK, I just pulled the trigger on the Fidue (sounds like what someone with an accent calls his dog)...Should get it pretty soon, Amazon is generally pretty quick
Listening to Hifiman HE-560, just came, needs break in, but open, wide stage, bass really tight (but not in the "not much bass but very detailed" you read about in reviews of some bass light headphone...not a "bass monster", I suppose, but good weight, impact, tight. And, they are comfortable (more so than many on/over ears I've used). Listening through GO SE, have to try my Ray Samuels HR-2 at some point, but that means moving
rolleyes.gif

Time for kazillion hour break in process.
Report back on break in and the pooch when it comes from Amazon.

 

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