May 26, 2025 at 3:10 AM Post #151,756 of 151,911


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Having covered pretty much the major differences over those two GIANTS OF REPRODUCTION was thinking why not doing the same about the latest tremendous release coming from PENON this time... PENON ARCHANGEL (haven't included this battle over my review on ORACLE MKIII..........) so here it is guys ...........

ARCHANGEL vs. ORACLE MKIII





Two Tribrids, Two Philosophies — One Big Decision



The THIEAUDIO Oracle MKIII and the PENON Archangel stand shoulder-to-shoulder in price, prestige, and promise — both feature multi-driver tribrid architectures, strong tuning identities, and spatial mastery. Yet, they couldn’t sound more philosophically different in execution.


This comparison breaks down their tuning approaches, technical differences, and emotional impact, helping you decide which one suits your sonic preferences and playback priorities.

Bass – Control vs. Authority


  • Oracle MKIII: The MKIII version utilizes the IMPACT2 technology for sub-bass presence with a clean, reference-grade implementation. The combination of two 10mm dynamic drivers arranged in an isobaric design housed in a chamber is very well implemented in this case...... Bass is tight, fast, and precise, giving body to the low end without overwhelming the mids. It’s less visceral, but more detailed, designed to underpin a transparent and airy soundstage.
  • Archangel: This is where Archangel takes the crown. With dual coaxial dynamic drivers plus Bone Conduction Drivers, it delivers massive sub-bass presence, tactile physicality, and cinematic weight. You don’t just hear the bass — you feel it. It’s articulated, never boomy, and still maintains clarity. This is Penon’s most impressive bass to date.

✔ Verdict:
Choose Oracle for bass accuracy and reference tonality.
Choose Archangel for visceral depth and immersive power.



Midrange – Spatial Clarity vs. Transparent Neutrality


  • Oracle MKIII: Mids are clean, open, and lightly ethereal. Vocals and instruments are spaciously placed within the stage, never pushed forward or overly colored. It excels in layering and separation, especially for orchestral or ambient works, where each element needs its own breathing space.
  • Archangel: Midrange is absolutely flat and neutral, something we rarely see from Penon. There’s no bloom, no forward push, and no warmth bias. Vocals come across as honest and accurate, particularly well-suited for listeners who value reference-grade transparency over emotional coloration.

✔ Verdict:
Oracle = spatial charm and natural openness
Archangel = dead-flat neutrality and studio monitor realism

Treble – EST Air vs. BA Silk


  • Oracle MKIII: The twin EST drivers shine in the upper treble — delivering airy, delicate extension, with microdetail and shimmer that never turns peaky. It’s a treble tuned for ambience, reverbs, cymbals, and subtle spatial cues.
  • Archangel: Uses BA treble with refined tuning, aided by a treble switch. It’s equally extended, but less sparkly, more textured, and silkier in delivery. There's more of a velvet realism than dazzling brilliance. Even bright recordings remain smooth, yet never dull.

✔ Verdict:
Oracle = treble air, sparkle, and micro-spatial cues
Archangel = refined, non-fatiguing, and texturally honest top-end


Soundstage & Imaging – Holography vs. Architecture

  • Oracle MKIII: Delivers a wide and immersive stereo field with excellent front/back separation. Instruments are placed in a convincingly natural spread. This is a very “audiophile” stage — balanced, elegant, and layered.
  • Archangel: Simply next-level. The vertical and diagonal imaging, made possible by BCD integration, adds an entire extra axis of immersion. Stage is spherical and massive, bordering on multi-speaker-like depth. Instruments appear anchored in space, not just placed by panning.

✔ Verdict:
Oracle = classic hi-fi layering and lateral width
Archangel = cinematic 3D immersion with height and weight


Technicalities – Resolution, Layering & Speed


  • Oracle MKIII: Exceptionally precise — particularly strong in detail retrieval, transient response, and upper-end clarity. Complex recordings are dissected cleanly, offering studio-style insight into mixes.
  • Archangel: Feels slightly more natural and relaxed, but sacrifices none of the detail. It offers incredible layering, nuanced microdynamics, and a more “physical” style of resolution, especially in the bass and lower mids.

✔ Verdict:
Oracle = clinical accuracy and transparent resolving power
Archangel = holographic detail with natural dynamics and realism


Comfort, Build & Accessories


  • Oracle MKIII: Comfortable, lightweight resin shells, modular cable, good fit. Accessories are solid, but standard in quality.
  • Archangel: Also full resin, but includes the Effect Audio Cadmus II cable, which is premium-tier in aesthetics and performance. Build feels more boutique and luxurious overall.

✔ Verdict:
Archangel offers a more premium total package, especially with the EA cable.






FeatureOracle MKIIIPenon Archangel
BassTight, controlled, referenceDeep, physical, textured, immersive
MidrangeOpen, neutral-spatial, slightly airyFlat, uncolored, studio-accurate
TrebleAiry, shimmering, delicate (EST)Silky, extended, smooth, natural (BA)
SoundstageWide, layered, open3D, spherical, cinematic, full axis imaging
ImagingClean, linear, hi-fiImmersive, weighty, anchored in space
Technical AbilityTransparent, highly resolvingCohesive, micro-detailed, physically dynamic
Cable & BuildSolid resin shell, good modular cablePremium shell, boutique Cadmus II cable (EA)
PersonalityClean, analytical, immersiveOrganic, immersive, powerful
Best ForCritical listeners, ambient/classicalImmersive listeners, cinematic/electronic/acoustic
Treble ProfileSparkle and airDetail and silk

Final Verdict – Which One to Choose?

Choose THIEAUDIO Oracle MKIII if:

  • You want reference-grade imaging, delicate treble air, and precise separation
  • You prefer a slightly more open and floaty midrange
  • You value upper-treble microdetail and clean spatial layering
  • You prefer a studio-monitor experience with just enough warmth
Choose PENON Archangel if:

  • You crave visceral sub-bass, larger-than-life stage, and holographic realism
  • You love a neutral, non-colored midrange with intimate dynamics
  • You want the best bass performance Penon has ever produced
  • You enjoy ambient, cinematic, or vocal-focused music with gravity and finesse


feel free to read over my take on the romantic ORACLE MKIII : ORACLE MKIII review



Very nice comparo!! Cherish my Archangel and sold my Oracle MK III.

New 'budget' varients of the Signature Series cables from Effect Audio.
Ares Lite and Cadmus Lite.
$129 & $149 respectively.

These look like they're just OG Ares and Cadmus; ie. 4 wires of 24AWG, but with fixed connectors, as opposed to conX, and less fancy pants packaging.

This has been posted elsewhere on Head Fi, but I haven't seen it on the Disco thread.
Apologies if it has already been posted and I missed it.

https://www.effectaudio.com/signature-series



I enjoy the Cadmus 2 that comes stock with the aforementioned Penon Archangel.



My post work shift evening has been spent getting entertained by a couple rigs. The first one is my newly acquired Sony NW-ZX100, which is WORTH. EVERY. PENNY I spent on it, which wasn't much, considering. Tethered to the ZX100 is the Softears Volume S, this IEM had slid down the rotation, and out of the first rota due to it sounding best thru the now sold FiiO JM21. That was it's synergy sister. Well, tonight, it found it's new synergy sister in the Sony, and it's such a fantastic pairing, that I'm moving the Volume S back into the first rotation, and moving the Simgot EW300 down to the 2nd rota. The synergy is THAT GUD, and the colorway matching is PERFECT! It's like this IEM was made for and came with the DAP!

Next was the ISN H60. One of my top BOSSES, the H60 has always done well with my FiiO daps, but I'd been contemplating re-purchasing the JM21, since it has a sound signature I'm very fond of, and I was able to get a close facsimile with my JM21 EQ setting on the M21, but then I remembered the iFi Go Link Max! This tiny dongle DAC has a signature that's oh so close to the FiiO JM21, without having to use EQ, so I hooked it up to the M21, dropped the H60 thru this, and musically, I'm transported to a special place. Switched out the cable as well, and I'm using the ivipQ Stardust, which isn't quite the color match of the XINHS K15, but it's a superior cable, and the silver and palladium really bring out the best qualities of the H60. This is an awesome rig.

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May 26, 2025 at 4:30 AM Post #151,758 of 151,911
Xenns exemplifies a company that prioritizes its reputation and consistently releases bangers. This commitment fosters a loyal customer base. Well-crafted IEM’s with diverse tuning that accurately reflect their characteristics. Crafting distinct flavors within their respective product lines like the: Tea, Top, and Up. This is why I am comfortable making blind purchases of their sets.

However, I would hesitate to sell a Tea Pro set to upgrade to the Top Pro due to the differing tuning philosophies. The upper-mid and treble frequencies are more balanced in the Tea line compared to the Top line, which introduces a subtle emphasis in that frequency region. While the Top Pro may offer superior technical performance in various aspects, I can discern a preference for the Tea tuning approach by some individuals.

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Even within the Top line, there are discernible tuning variations. The original Top model emphasizes mid-bass and upper-mid frequencies, while the Top Pro introduces slightly more sub-bass that dips cleanly into the mid-range while adding a touch of spice in the treble, rather than the upper-mid frequencies found in the original Top. It is important to note that this does not imply that the Top Pro will be universally superior for everyone. I can’t wait to try out the Top Pro when it arrives next week :)
Will look forward to your impressions..
For some reason none of the new xenns are available to purchase in India
 
May 26, 2025 at 4:34 AM Post #151,760 of 151,911
"Warm", "recessed," "smooth," "not the most resolving."... the combination of those in one IEM have me a bit concerned... if WELL-DONE, it might sound okay, but I already have smooth IEMs... the Phoenixia is smooth, a little warm, but still resolving and the vocals aren't recessed. The Tiandirenhe TD20 might be the closest to those 4 descriptors... it's quite musical, and very bassy, but again, the vocals aren't recessed. [popped these in for a short refresher... dang I forgot how good they sound!] Compared to the VP-07, the midbass is way less thick, but with a lot more treble detail without sounding too overboard and sibilant like the ZS10 Pro 2. But if you want SLAMMING midbass and great if not completely naturally toned vocals, the TD20 is a swell listen.

Wow. I'd get completely mixed up if I had all those haha. Someday I'd like to own one... preferably the one that is the most dynamic and immersive with great treble and bass, but even the thought of having to read all 12 reviews to figure this out is daunting lol. I mean I could assume the most expensive one is the best, but I'd be looking for around 200$ or less. Are the cheaper sets "almost as good?"
I have bought the STA High End Max based on the review posted by Akros, and given that his observation was that the STA series had more extension past 10kHz and hence more "twinklies and sparklies" I wnet for it and got a very pleasant surprise. Paired it with a Trusted Audio 7N OCC+Silver Palladium plated + graphene cable, which seems to have given more texture and detail to the, sound, along with Divinus Prism Wide Bore tips, and wow, chef's kiss
 
May 26, 2025 at 7:14 AM Post #151,765 of 151,911
Kiwi Ears Aether vs Letshuoer S12 (2024)

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This was the comparison I left until the last second, before the Aether has to go to the next lucky fella. So the two albums chosen for the comparo would be :




Kaisa's Machine - Taking Shape
Esperanza Spalding - Esperanza


A wide array of instruments, as well as vocals.

Bass : The bass is very interesting. So you'd think the Aether's bass is fuller, punchier, and more impactful than the S12 (2024), but this is NOT the case. The bass is warmer, more rumbly in the sub bass, and more impactful in the mid bass, BUT the bass of the Aether is more textured, note resolute, and cleaner, with a quicker snap. It's also a deeper bass, with more spaciousness, and dimensionality than the flatter bass response of the S12. So the bass comes off as fuller and cleaner on the Aether, while the S12 is slower, warmer, but with more impact on both mid bass and sub bass, while the Aether let's you hear the details in the bass, with uncanny note resolution and incisiveness that the S12 just can't provide with it's thicker presentation.

Midrange : Here we have a 3D, spacious, and immersive stage and midrange spatial cues with the Aether. It's what jumps out at you immediately when you listen to both these IEMs with an a/b, is the immersive and expansive stage you are greeted with, while the S12 (2024) is more intimate, with a thicker, more musical midrange, that's maybe a 1/2 step behind in overall incisiveness and resolution. It's a warmer, darker midrange, that though details are present and can pop, it's not at the level of the clean, clear, and more transparent midrange floor of the Aether. That's probably the best descriptors (transparent and technical vs musically lush and warm). While the S12 isn't quite as warm and lush as say the Letshuoer S08, it's fairly close, and actually has better detail retrieval than the S08, but nowhere near the technical skills of the Aether. Same with instrument separation and imaging. It's spacious and technical with the Aether, and more intimate and emotive with the S12, so vocals, both male and female, carry more emotion, weight, and texture with the S12 (2024), vs the more clinical and dry approach of the Aether. So you'd pick up throaty warm with vocals in the S12, while you'd hear the vibration of a drier voice with the Aether. A wisp vs a whisper. Upper mids are both smooth and devoid of shout or peaks in the Aether and the S12. So anyone who's sensitive in that area can rest easy knowing they won't get bleedy ear with either IEM, but as mentioned earlier, the resolution and crispness is just a touch more impressive with the Aether, making it less warm and a bit clearer.

Treble : The Aether is clearly more incisive, extended, and airy. While the S12 (2024) treble isn't rolled off, and the Aether not strident, there's just a more defined resolution and crispness to the Aether that makes it's treble refined, natural, and airy, while still maintaining a fair bit of smoothness. so it never gets strident or peaky. The S12 has very rounded notes, slightly reigned in upper harmonics, and though it can be defined as airy, it lacks a bit of resolution, so those rounded notes provide a less perceivable crispness and extension than the Aether, so though the texture and refinement of the treble is very similar on both, you still get the sensation that the Aether is slightly more resolving and crisp, so making for a more exciting and high def top end, so if you have severe sensitivities in that area, the safer bet for you would be the S12 (2024), though in reality, the Aether treble isn't offensive in the least, but if you want to play it safe...

Stage : Aether in a slam dunk. Not much to discuss here that wasn't discussed earlier. Aether has a fuller, more dimensional space, with superior spatial cues, so that you get an immersive sonic experience, with a large, expressive, and expansive stage. The S12 (2024) is full and warm, with average to slightly above average dimensionality, but next to the Aether, is downright intimate feeling. Say the difference between the stage of the Koss Porta Pro vs the Sennheiser HD600. The Porta Pros don't necessarily have a small stage, but if compared to the HD600, it's going to seem much more intimate than it really is, comparative speaking. The planar driver of the Aether is also larger than the S12 (2024), plus it has a much larger shell, so that probably helps with the expansiveness.? This also makes the S12 a more comfortable fit for longer sessions than the Aether, especially for those with smaller ear holes. I had no issues with comfort with the Kiwi Ears Aether, and the S12 (2024) can have tricky fit with it's very short nozzles, but Penon Black lickies can solve that puzzle fairly well.

Advantage : Kiwi Ears Aether, but to be honest, I also love the musical warmth of the S12 (2024), and it's also much easier to drive, with the S12 able to be driven by a smartphone or untethered Sony DAP, while this just isn't the case with the Aether. Not at all. The S12 (2024) is one of the easier to drive planars, and unless you want that broad, technically refined and punchy approach of the Aether, you can get away with a great listening experience with the S12 (2024) by Letshuoer. Whether you need the Aether or not if you already have the S12 (2024) is up for debate? You choose.

Glad I sold the S12 2024 and got the Aether. It's WAY more my style of tuning, with a clean, open sound.

Speaking of Aether, I randomly decided to compare it to the VP-07 a bit... they're also somewhat comparable. The Aether has a slightly more full, slightly warmer sound while the Vzonis is more clear and analytical in the treble. Both have amazing, clean bass. Basically, I think the aether sounds more of a flat, true tuning while the VP-07's midrange is a bit thinner due to the treble enhancement.


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Having covered pretty much the major differences over those two GIANTS OF REPRODUCTION was thinking why not doing the same about the latest tremendous release coming from PENON this time... PENON ARCHANGEL (haven't included this battle over my review on ORACLE MKIII..........) so here it is guys ...........

ARCHANGEL vs. ORACLE MKIII


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Two Tribrids, Two Philosophies — One Big Decision



The THIEAUDIO Oracle MKIII and the PENON Archangel stand shoulder-to-shoulder in price, prestige, and promise — both feature multi-driver tribrid architectures, strong tuning identities, and spatial mastery. Yet, they couldn’t sound more philosophically different in execution.


This comparison breaks down their tuning approaches, technical differences, and emotional impact, helping you decide which one suits your sonic preferences and playback priorities.

Bass – Control vs. Authority


  • Oracle MKIII: The MKIII version utilizes the IMPACT2 technology for sub-bass presence with a clean, reference-grade implementation. The combination of two 10mm dynamic drivers arranged in an isobaric design housed in a chamber is very well implemented in this case...... Bass is tight, fast, and precise, giving body to the low end without overwhelming the mids. It’s less visceral, but more detailed, designed to underpin a transparent and airy soundstage.
  • Archangel: This is where Archangel takes the crown. With dual coaxial dynamic drivers plus Bone Conduction Drivers, it delivers massive sub-bass presence, tactile physicality, and cinematic weight. You don’t just hear the bass — you feel it. It’s articulated, never boomy, and still maintains clarity. This is Penon’s most impressive bass to date.

✔ Verdict:
Choose Oracle for bass accuracy and reference tonality.
Choose Archangel for visceral depth and immersive power.



Midrange – Spatial Clarity vs. Transparent Neutrality


  • Oracle MKIII: Mids are clean, open, and lightly ethereal. Vocals and instruments are spaciously placed within the stage, never pushed forward or overly colored. It excels in layering and separation, especially for orchestral or ambient works, where each element needs its own breathing space.
  • Archangel: Midrange is absolutely flat and neutral, something we rarely see from Penon. There’s no bloom, no forward push, and no warmth bias. Vocals come across as honest and accurate, particularly well-suited for listeners who value reference-grade transparency over emotional coloration.

✔ Verdict:
Oracle = spatial charm and natural openness
Archangel = dead-flat neutrality and studio monitor realism

Treble – EST Air vs. BA Silk


  • Oracle MKIII: The twin EST drivers shine in the upper treble — delivering airy, delicate extension, with microdetail and shimmer that never turns peaky. It’s a treble tuned for ambience, reverbs, cymbals, and subtle spatial cues.
  • Archangel: Uses BA treble with refined tuning, aided by a treble switch. It’s equally extended, but less sparkly, more textured, and silkier in delivery. There's more of a velvet realism than dazzling brilliance. Even bright recordings remain smooth, yet never dull.

✔ Verdict:
Oracle = treble air, sparkle, and micro-spatial cues
Archangel = refined, non-fatiguing, and texturally honest top-end


Soundstage & Imaging – Holography vs. Architecture

  • Oracle MKIII: Delivers a wide and immersive stereo field with excellent front/back separation. Instruments are placed in a convincingly natural spread. This is a very “audiophile” stage — balanced, elegant, and layered.
  • Archangel: Simply next-level. The vertical and diagonal imaging, made possible by BCD integration, adds an entire extra axis of immersion. Stage is spherical and massive, bordering on multi-speaker-like depth. Instruments appear anchored in space, not just placed by panning.

✔ Verdict:
Oracle = classic hi-fi layering and lateral width
Archangel = cinematic 3D immersion with height and weight


Technicalities – Resolution, Layering & Speed


  • Oracle MKIII: Exceptionally precise — particularly strong in detail retrieval, transient response, and upper-end clarity. Complex recordings are dissected cleanly, offering studio-style insight into mixes.
  • Archangel: Feels slightly more natural and relaxed, but sacrifices none of the detail. It offers incredible layering, nuanced microdynamics, and a more “physical” style of resolution, especially in the bass and lower mids.

✔ Verdict:
Oracle = clinical accuracy and transparent resolving power
Archangel = holographic detail with natural dynamics and realism


Comfort, Build & Accessories


  • Oracle MKIII: Comfortable, lightweight resin shells, modular cable, good fit. Accessories are solid, but standard in quality.
  • Archangel: Also full resin, but includes the Effect Audio Cadmus II cable, which is premium-tier in aesthetics and performance. Build feels more boutique and luxurious overall.

✔ Verdict:
Archangel offers a more premium total package, especially with the EA cable.






FeatureOracle MKIIIPenon Archangel
BassTight, controlled, referenceDeep, physical, textured, immersive
MidrangeOpen, neutral-spatial, slightly airyFlat, uncolored, studio-accurate
TrebleAiry, shimmering, delicate (EST)Silky, extended, smooth, natural (BA)
SoundstageWide, layered, open3D, spherical, cinematic, full axis imaging
ImagingClean, linear, hi-fiImmersive, weighty, anchored in space
Technical AbilityTransparent, highly resolvingCohesive, micro-detailed, physically dynamic
Cable & BuildSolid resin shell, good modular cablePremium shell, boutique Cadmus II cable (EA)
PersonalityClean, analytical, immersiveOrganic, immersive, powerful
Best ForCritical listeners, ambient/classicalImmersive listeners, cinematic/electronic/acoustic
Treble ProfileSparkle and airDetail and silk

Final Verdict – Which One to Choose?

Choose THIEAUDIO Oracle MKIII if:

  • You want reference-grade imaging, delicate treble air, and precise separation
  • You prefer a slightly more open and floaty midrange
  • You value upper-treble microdetail and clean spatial layering
  • You prefer a studio-monitor experience with just enough warmth
Choose PENON Archangel if:

  • You crave visceral sub-bass, larger-than-life stage, and holographic realism
  • You love a neutral, non-colored midrange with intimate dynamics
  • You want the best bass performance Penon has ever produced
  • You enjoy ambient, cinematic, or vocal-focused music with gravity and finesse


feel free to read over my take on the romantic ORACLE MKIII : ORACLE MKIII review

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Again, I'd LOVE to get Archangel... maybe one of these days I'll see if I can get a custom faceplate. I AIN'T spending that much money if I think they look weird haha. the MKIII here look way, way nicer, but I think the Penon's sound would suit my preferences way better.
 
May 26, 2025 at 7:38 AM Post #151,766 of 151,911
Back at it! Been away for a few days, went to a local-ish music festival with the bros.

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Still some catching up to do, but it's all good, since I'm listening to these hotties as I go.

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Need to compare these to Prelude. I think Prelude is the Isabellae 2.0 in some ways.
 
May 26, 2025 at 9:47 AM Post #151,767 of 151,911
Been doing a few very casual A-B's with the KZ Zenith [UUUU switches, Penon Space 4.4 cable] to see if I still want-need it in my collection. Trio and SP-01 are my main challengers as my logic is: If Trio is definitely a better KZ than Zenith, then why keep Zenith? If SP-01 is a definitively better single DD, then why keep Zenith? [I'm not including the ZVX Pro because that's a different sound altogether.]

So far, Zenith I think is holding up quite well... it has almost cleaner bass than the SP-01, and I think slightly more resolving treble than the Trio. SP-01's bass [clear filter, XINHS H04 4.4 cable] is a little punchier though.

The SP-01's sub-bass is deeper so that adds clarity and authority that the Zenith sometimes lacks in the bass... ["Boys" by Royksopp.] The treble textures are same or almost better with the Zenith on that song though. [it has a weird zippy noise in the middle of the track that sounds GREAT on the Zenith, but the subtle bass-line sounds better on the SP-01.]
Zenith's treble is generally better and more resolving than the Trio's, but the latter has more bass oomph [with many options for tuning the bass via switches.] SP-01 has better sub-bass than both of the KZ sets.

Will do more testing with other genres later, but for now, it seems the Zenith MIGHT be heading for the cull bin!
 
May 26, 2025 at 10:09 AM Post #151,768 of 151,911
What are currently some of the best single DD iems for male vocals?

I currently have Kato and fd15 and am seeking an upgrade over them.
If you love vocals either male or female, Softears Twilight should be in your choice list. Still after 3 years it is being cherished among audiophiles communities.
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May 26, 2025 at 10:48 AM Post #151,769 of 151,911
Hope everyone is well, I was going to make a post with impressions from High End Munich. I did put it on hold so I could finish two reviews, first out is UM Mest Jet Black. Fourth generation in the Mest series, similarly to its predecessor it is a quite technical and impressive set. I enjoy it a lot, but it can also sound to intense at times so I find it even more important to find correct source and accessories.

Jet Black is a classy looking set with black ceramic shell and golden screws, it looks and feel very premium versus typical resin shells. I also really like that both stock cables are of good quality, though I bet this raises the price more. So we are lucky to have stores like @MusicTeck that sell it without the stock cables for less.
Can read all my thoughts in the review if that's interesting, cheers :beerchug:

REVIEW HERE

 
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