Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
Jan 31, 2015 at 2:39 PM Post #15,481 of 16,931
About to take a plunge and get the Ostry KC06A. I was told they're a bit better built than the VSD3 and perhaps a bit better sounding? I'm more certain on a v shaped sound with a tad more warm in the vocals than the FXD80, hoping these will be my best bet, 

Just wanted to get another opinion before I hit the confirm button :p


Get the Ostrys. I had the VSD3S's a while back and the KC06As stomped them.
 
Jan 31, 2015 at 2:48 PM Post #15,482 of 16,931
  About to take a plunge and get the Ostry KC06A. I was told they're a bit better built than the VSD3 and perhaps a bit better sounding? I'm more certain on a v shaped sound with a tad more warm in the vocals than the FXD80, hoping these will be my best bet, 
 
Just wanted to get another opinion before I hit the confirm button :p

 
Hit it. The kc06a's rock.
 
Jan 31, 2015 at 9:25 PM Post #15,484 of 16,931
   
In the absence of specific sound sig requirements I would say a KC06 from Ostry would be a good one at ~$60. Very clear sound, bit of bass punch, good vocal intelligiblity and wide presentation. The NE-600X will give you lots of bass (great if you like bass-heavy earphones) but for $55 it's not really worth it. The M1 has a more mid-centric sig that's better-suited for music than other multimedia. 

Thank you really much Joker, you sure are a big help around here :).
 
And I was in trouble about getting some brands to ship to portugal but I came across your recommended shop - lend me your years and now I can actually extend my wishlist. I might end up a little and get the ostry as you suggest as my firsts :). I am really happy.
 
So just to end this questions, as I was considering many IEMs I came accross two that I would like to know if you will be giving word soon about them. The sennheiser cx3.00 and the vsonic vsd3(find your upcoming review things :) ). Will you be getting reviews of those? have you tried them already?
 
Wish you all the best, I'll be sure to post when I get my first ones :wink:
 
Jan 31, 2015 at 10:03 PM Post #15,485 of 16,931
  What would be a good IEM for movies? Good bass, clear dialog, comfortable. Budget about $30. Thanks. 

 
One of the ~$30 T-Peos sets, maybe. The D200R would be the best option but it is hard to find. The Popular is $30 at mp4nation. Soundmagic sets are good too - both the E10 and E30. 
 
  Thank you really much Joker, you sure are a big help around here :).
 
And I was in trouble about getting some brands to ship to portugal but I came across your recommended shop - lend me your years and now I can actually extend my wishlist. I might end up a little and get the ostry as you suggest as my firsts :). I am really happy.
 
So just to end this questions, as I was considering many IEMs I came accross two that I would like to know if you will be giving word soon about them. The sennheiser cx3.00 and the vsonic vsd3. Will you be getting reviews of those? have you tried them already?
 
Wish you all the best, I'll be sure to post when I get my first ones :wink:

 
No plans to try the 3.00 but I have reviewed the VSD3 here: http://theheadphonelist.com/brief-impressions-vsonic-vsd3s-ostry-kc06-havi-b3-pro/
 
Feb 1, 2015 at 1:30 PM Post #15,486 of 16,931
 
No plans to try the 3.00 but I have reviewed the VSD3 here: http://theheadphonelist.com/brief-impressions-vsonic-vsd3s-ostry-kc06-havi-b3-pro/

Ok, perfect enough :). Really glad I could read this brief (super detailed) impression/review on those. I'll be waiting for the full final word on these to pull the trigger lol. I resolve to invest a bit more and now I put down the choice to three candidates, the ostry kc06, the vsd3s non detachable cable and astrotec am-800 (not sure if it is on the same league but for now I suppose it is). Sure your final reviews will made me decide well for :).
 
Thank you a lot for your help and understandings. I am really getting excited for my first IEM's (I was a cans only dude) :p.
 
Feb 3, 2015 at 5:03 AM Post #15,487 of 16,931
Added a review of the Fidue A83
 
 
 
 
(1C23) Fidue A83


Reviewed Dec 2014
 
Details: Flagship earphone from Fidue utilizing a dynamic + dual balanced armature driver setup

MSRP: $399.95 (manufacturer’s page)
Current Price: $280 from amazon.com; $299 on ebay.com
Specs: Driver: Dynamic + Dual BA Hybrid | Imp: 11Ω | Sens: 104 dB | Freq: 9-31k Hz | Cable: 3.9′ I-plug, detachable with MMCX connectors
Nozzle Size: 5.5mm | Preferred tips: Comply T400; Sennheiser short bi-flanges
Wear Style: Over-the-ear


Accessories (5/5) – Single-flange (3 sizes) and bi-flange (2 sizes) silicone tips, foam tips (1 pair), 6.3mm adapter, airline adapter, Otterbox-style crush-resistant carrying case
Build Quality (4.5/5) – The look of the A83 might take a bit of getting used to, but construction quality is excellent. The metal faceplates comprise the most prominent design element and give the housings a very solid feel. The detachable cables utilize MMCX connectors modified to stop them from rotating, which is something I found slightly annoying with a few other MMCX earphones such as the Shure SE535. Fidue does this using an extra pin on the outside of the connector. This results in the A83′s cable being incompatible with other MMCX earphones, but other manufacturers’ cables will still work with the A83. The quality of the stock cable is excellent and the connectors at the earpiece end are angled to facilitate over-the-ear wear. The only thing the cable lacks is a cinch, but with the memory wire it’s not really a must-have
Isolation (3/5) – Average due to somewhat shallow fit
Microphonics (4.5/5) – Very low in the twisted cable
Comfort (4/5) – The A83 uses an ergonomic housing design and is worn over the ear with the help of memory wire and angled cable connectors. It’s not a small earphone, but it is relatively lightweight and the shape, which reminds me of the Sennheiser IE7, manages the size well


Sound (9.2/10) – The Fidue A83 is a dynamic + dual BA hybrid earphone that improves on the design – and the sound – of Fidue’s dynamic-driver A81 model. Like other triple-driver hybrid setups, it doesn’t suffer from a lack of bass impact. However, aside from the warm and smooth Sony XBA-H3, it is the least v-shaped and arguably the most balanced of the hybrid IEMs I’ve tried. The overall balance of the earphones did benefit a good amount from a tip switch – the best results I got were with Comply foam tips and “short” Sennheiser double-flanges.

In this configuration the A83 has mids that are not as thin as those of the DUNU DN-2000 and T-Peos Altone200 and a top end that’s not prone to harshness or sibilance. Bass quantity is above what I consider flat or “neutral”, but lower than with most other hybrids including the XBA-H3, Altone200, and even AKG’s flagship K3003 in its “Reference” configuration.

The A83 is clearly bassier than flat-sounding BA sets such as the Etymotic ER4, VSonic VC1000, and Final Audio Heaven II, but also a little less tight and controlled. The Westone W40, which is not as flat as the sets listed above, still can’t keep up with the A83 in bass impact, but the quality of its bass is closer to that of the Fidue.

The midrange of the A83 is a little warmer than neutral. It is thicker and more full-bodied than a flat-sounding IEM such as an Etymotic ER4, VC1000, or even Heaven II, but also a bit less clear. Clarity lags a bit behind the pricier AKG K3003 as well. The A83 also lacks a bit of crispness compared to these other sets, likely because it just isn’t as level across the board, but this is only noticeable when comparing it to a flatter, more accurate earphone. On the other hand compared to the warmer and darker Westone W40, the more v-shaped A83 is actually a little clearer.

The top end of the Fidue A83 carries good energy and strikes a fine balance between sounding revealing and harsh. Among the hybrid earphones I’ve tried it is the best bet for those who are worried about the warmth and bloat of the XBA-H3 being excessive but don’t want to risk the brighter and occasionally harsher-sounding DUNU and T-Peos sets. The treble here is by no means smoothed-over – it just avoids some of the harshness and sibilance of the hybrid competitors and even flatter-sounding earphones such as the VSonic VC1000 and Final Audio Heaven II, which tend to have more treble energy. However, this also costs the A83 some crispness in comparison to those. The Westone W40, on the other hand, is less bright and even more forgiving. At the end of the day, the A83 is a compromise between the brighter sound of many other hybrids and the purposely smooth sound of something like the Westone W40.

The A83 has a very unique presentation, with impressive width and depth but a somewhat diffuse sound. The soundstage is spacious – surprisingly so, in fact – but the slight lack of crispness leaves the presentation a bit vague. Still, it a little more out-of-the-head than even the AKG K3003, which has a more “conventional” with more coherent soundstaging and better imaging.

Mini Comparisons

VSonic GR07 Classic ($99)

VSonic’s dynamic-driver GR07 is, by and large, a balanced-sounding earphone, and sounds quite neutral next to the more v-shaped A83. The top end of the A83 is highly tip dependent but tends to be a little brighter and more energetic overall. With the stock tips it can be more sibilant than the GR07, but with my preferred eartips it is actually smoother and less sibilance-prone than the VSonic unit.

The bass of the GR07 seems a bit deeper. This is likely due to it having less of a mid-bass hump to draw attention away from the sub-bass, rather than due to actually having more depth. In the midrange, the A83 sounds both clearer and a little more full-bodied than the GR07 – an impressive feat. It also has a slightly more 3-dimensional presentation with better depth and is quite a bit more efficient.

T-Peos Altone200 ($185) 

The T-Peos Altone200 is close to the Fidue A83 in performance but offers up more bass and brighter treble for a more v-shaped sound signature. The bass of the Altone200 digs deeper and delivers more of both impact and rumble, though it is also a touch more boomy. The A83 is more neutral and a little more natural-sounding, though I can definitely see the more colored sound of the T-Peos being preferable with some genres (such as EDM), thanks in large part to the juicy bass. The mids of the A83 are not as recessed while the Altone200 has a thinner and more withdrawn midrange. The clarity of the T-Peos is much more striking, due in part to the Fidue having thicker mids and lower overall treble energy, though the A83 is also smoother and less sibilance-prone.

DUNU DN-1000 ($199)

DUNU’s original triple-driver hybrid makes for a good contrast to the Fidue A83. Though both earphones follow v-shaped sound signatures, they are tuned differently. The DN-1000 has deeper bass with noticeably more slam. The A83 has more neutral bass quantity, but actually sounds a little warmer thanks to a slightly larger mid-bass hump. It is also a bit thicker and more full-bodied in the midrange, though the more v-shaped DN-1000 seems a touch clearer. The highs of the DUNU unit are less forgiving while the A83 has smoother treble (probably its biggest advantage). That said, the A83 sounds a little less crisp and coherent, but more spacious, whereas the DN-1000 offers a slightly more congested sound.

DUNU DN-2000 ($300)

The A83 and DN-2000 are both high-end triple-driver hybrid earphones that, to my ears, differ most in presentation, with the A83 having a more out-of-the-head sound and appearing a little more distant and diffuse, and the DN-2000 sounding more focused, but also a bit more closed-in. The Fidue set carries less emphasis in the sub-bass region and more in the mid-bass region, which actually makes its low end sound a little more integrated into the overall sound. The midrange of the DN-2000 is a little more recessed but the A83 is lacking in the way of crispness in comparison. The A83 also tends to be a little less forgiving up top, though it falls closer to the smoother DN-2000 than the lower-end DN-1000 in this regard.

Sony XBA-H3 ($348)

Compared to the Sony XBA-H3, the Fidue A83 boasts a brighter tonal character and sound that’s more balanced overall. The XBA-H3 has more bass impact at the expense of greater bass boom whereas the A83 is both lighter and more controlled at the low end. The mids of the A83 are slightly clearer, but also thinner. The XBA-H3 has a more full-bodied sound but also appears a bit more veiled/muffled in the midrange. The Sony is smoother, too, while the A83 is brighter and less forgiving. Surprisingly, the A83 has a slightly more spacious presentation than the XBA-H3, which is already very impressive in this regard.

Value (8.5/10) – The Fidue A83 is a triple-driver hybrid earphone with sound that combines impactful, yet well-measured bass with mids and treble that are less recessed and more forgiving, respectively, compared to other earphones of this type. The overall sound is slightly v-shaped and not 100% neutral, but punchy and enjoyable. The earphones are also very well made, with the plastic-and-metal housings and good-quality detachable cables covering all the bases. Indeed, there’s a certain thoughtfulness and attention to detail permeates all aspects of the A83, from the packaging onward, enhancing the user experience. Wearing comfort for the ergonomic-fit housings is also quite good. I do wish there was a mic cable included, as with the less expensive A81 model, but for the price that would simply be too much good stuff.

Pros: Great construction; detachable cable; enjoyable, slightly colored sound
Cons: Treble quality is tip-dependent

 
The overall ranking has been updated here.
 
Feb 3, 2015 at 5:42 PM Post #15,489 of 16,931
Typically foam tips boost the bass a little (better isolation) and curb the treble.  Are you saying that with other tips (i.e. not the Comply/Short Double Flanges) that the sound was too bright?  Or was there more treble un-evenness?
 
Just trying to understand more about the comment "Treble quality is tip dependent"
 
Feb 3, 2015 at 10:22 PM Post #15,490 of 16,931
  Thanks for the review, it's really a great help! 

 
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  Typically foam tips boost the bass a little (better isolation) and curb the treble.  Are you saying that with other tips (i.e. not the Comply/Short Double Flanges) that the sound was too bright?  Or was there more treble un-evenness?
 

 
Yes, this. Different eartips do modify treble response slightly and it took some playing around with tips for me to find the maximum smoothness. 
 
Feb 4, 2015 at 4:27 PM Post #15,492 of 16,931
Question, between some Weston's UM1 used and a pair of shure se215 new, which would you choose? The difference in price is 15 more the shures I'm afraid of it sizes... For reference the monoprice 8something ones are big for me...

Edit: sorry monoprice 108320 those are, I don't like how they sound not a bit, and the fit is horrible... The case is, rare shaped...

Edit2: I'm actually hearing to them right now and the sound is not that bad... Its been a couple of days that i dont hear my q701s and im quite new to this world ( been here for a lot but didnt have money for anything :xf_eek: ) so im not super extremely familiarized with the sound... However, these are not a bit of comfortable and the seal is bad, and i think i can hear one of the sides sound louder than the other (i think)
 
Feb 5, 2015 at 2:43 AM Post #15,493 of 16,931
Hey Joker,
 
I was wondering what you thought about an IEM to pair with the UE900s. i was leaning towards the shure 535 since they can be found for a more decent price these days and i could possibly cable swap with the UE900s, or even the fidue a83 you just reviewed. but i've also always been tempted to try westone 4rs or some westone phone. any ideas?
 
thanks!!
 
Feb 5, 2015 at 5:20 AM Post #15,495 of 16,931
Question, between some Weston's UM1 used and a pair of shure se215 new, which would you choose? The difference in price is 15 more the shures I'm afraid of it sizes... For reference the monoprice 8something ones are big for me...

Edit: sorry monoprice 108320 those are, I don't like how they sound not a bit, and the fit is horrible... The case is, rare shaped...

Edit2: I'm actually hearing to them right now and the sound is not that bad... Its been a couple of days that i dont hear my q701s and im quite new to this world ( been here for a lot but didnt have money for anything
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) so im not super extremely familiarized with the sound... However, these are not a bit of comfortable and the seal is bad, and i think i can hear one of the sides sound louder than the other (i think)

 
Not sure what the UM1s sound like - don't have one. The SE215 is a good earphone but not super small. The Westone 10 (which I do have) is a lot more compact and comfortable, but I prefer the sound of the Shures.  
 
  Hey Joker,
 
I was wondering what you thought about an IEM to pair with the UE900s. i was leaning towards the shure 535 since they can be found for a more decent price these days and i could possibly cable swap with the UE900s, or even the fidue a83 you just reviewed. but i've also always been tempted to try westone 4rs or some westone phone. any ideas?
 
thanks!!

 
If you're looking for a contrast, the W40 or A83 would be better than the 535. They're all good earphones, so it really depends on what you're after. 
 

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