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Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (12/10/2019: Schiit Gaming Dac/Amps 'Hel' and 'Fulla 3' added)

Discussion in 'Video Games Discussion' started by mad lust envy, Jan 17, 2011.
  1. Mad Lust Envy Contributor
    Something like the Fidelio X2? I dunno if that's still around. Oh it is. I'd look into that.
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2019
  2. Aalvi
    I have been looking into (obsessing) over this for this past week. I sort of narrowed onto the DT 990s(250 ohm). How are those compared to your suggestion of the Fidelio X2 for the music/gaming use I'm interested in? Both of these should work with the Astro mixamp I have too I imagine?
  3. headphonesonly
    I can’t listen to the dt990 for more than 5 mins or else I’ll get tinnitus. The treble is just so god damn sharp it physically hurts me. It’s unfortunate because the mids and bass is much cleaner than the X2. And the mixamp can’t drive dt990s.
  4. headphonesonly
    I really hate their complex “gamer” headset design.
    C-Bass and halcyon like this.
  5. PurpleAngel Contributor
    The Astro Mix-amp is just powerful enough to drive 250-Ohm Beyer (DT770/DT880/DT990) headphones somewhat decently.
    I would try and talk you into getting the Soundmagic HP200 headphones, over the DT990.
  6. PurpleAngel Contributor
    Soundmagic HP200 open headphones.
    Massdrop/Sennheiser HD58X open headphones.
  7. DrKrFfXx
    But their imaging is eerily good.
  8. Mad Lust Envy Contributor
    As long as you understand that the DT990 has some pretty prolific treble, it's a greatheadphone otherwise. Personally I think the X2 is a better headphone and is easier on the Mixamp as well.

    I see Philips has updated the X2 with removable pads and whatnot. Definitely a great headphone. Highly recommend it to anyone.

    As always, I don't comment on headphones I've never heard, so I can't say anything about other's recommendations, but I'd listen to them as well. My tastes may not be the same as yours.
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2019
  9. Aalvi
    Is X2 worth it compared to DT 990 if I have to shell out $120+ more? Also I'm confused as to the Astro mixamps ability to drive 250 ohm DT 990, I'm hearing it can and also that it can't based on many sources. I also heard the mixamp would drive better if it's not used for a mic as well(in my case it isn't). If I do go with it(which seems to be the most convincing choice based on price and everything I've looked at altogether), what would be a recommend map/dac to pair with my mixamp to maximize my headphones?

    I've looked extensively at DT series (990, 880, 770), AKG K702, AD900x and some others. This is harder than I thought, I'm basically just getting into this sort of thing so the sheer volume of options and concepts to take in is admittedly overwhelming.

    Also it's hard to say if I'd have a problem with DT 990 treble, I might just end up appreciating it and adapting.
  10. Michelest
    you have selected excellent headphones: X2, AKG702, AD700 / 900X, DT990.
    No one can tell you which of these 4 headphones is best for you.
    You have to try them ... Amazon.ca/.com gives you the chance to try on headphones for a month.
    Just keep in mind that the DT990s are difficult to drive and are as special as sound. The AKG 712 Pro are great headphones but if you don't live in the UE they will cost you a lot.
    Choose between the AD900 / 700X and X2
  11. Aalvi
    After combing through basically all your reviews as well as others, asking around, reading articles and reviews, I went with your suggestion(I found ones at a more appropriate price). I wasn't too sure I'd be able to like DT 990s and I've been returning stuff at amazon and didn't want to push it. Thanks for your help(as well as everyone else who suggested things), I really hope I do enjoy the X2's.

    I'm considering getting the SoundblasterX G6 to replace or pair with my Astro mixamp. I am interested in the idea of "immersive" gaming through surround sound and wanted to see if the SBX would be better than whatever the mixamp has.
  12. Mad Lust Envy Contributor
    The G6 is a much cleaner sounding dac amp, so sound quality will be improved. It's also quite a bit more powerful. X2 will be driven fine by the G6. As for the virtual surround, the G6 implementation is less processed sounding, though Dolby Headphone has a better sense of immersion and surround 'feel', IMHO.

    Both are very good, so if you're fine with the Mixamp, you should be fine with the G6.
  13. Mad Lust Envy Contributor
    edit: I'm an idiot. I've had the Creative Air for a month, and just TODAY noticed there is a Creative Air app on Android. I've been using only the SXFI app. Apparently you need TWO apps to get all the functions working... along with a PC app as well when using the USB mode. Lol. 3 apps...

    Anyways, old post below, still relevant to all of you.

    Can someone download the SFXI app to their mobile device and tell me if you are able to calibrate your head mapping as well as use Super X-fi through that music player?

    I ask because if so, it at least let's you try out SXFI at the very least with whatever music files you have in your mobile device. So long as you create an account and are logged in.

    I was confused as to why you need the SXFI amp or SXFI headphones if the app already allows you to use the dsp, but then again, you're limited to just that specific music player, and if you don't have a headphone in their list, you won't get an 'ideal' preset either, but at the very least you can test out how SXFI alters the sound to mimic a really spacious theater. It's worth trying.

    Spoiler: it works INCREDIBLY well on the Creative Air particularly when gaming on PC.
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2019
  14. Trancefreak
    I'd be interested in a comparison between Audeze Mobius WaveNX, Sennheiser GSX1000 and Creative's new SXFI solution. Is this possible?

    Eagerly awaiting your Audeze GX for this reason also ^^
  15. Mad Lust Envy Contributor
    I'll make a broad comparison in that I'll talk about what makes the SXFI stand iut from the normal virtual surround dsps, but I won't go to in depth as there isn't all that much that separates virtual surround dsps from one another. They all more or less sound like you're transported into a room with a full surround speaker setup.

    How effective they are varies, but I will say that SXFI sounds slightly different from those. I'll get around to talk about it in the review.

    The review would've been done by now, but the software section of the review went to hell after I introduced the third app, so I went and redid the entire thing yesterday. It wasn't a good day for me. The software section made up about 75% of the review before. It was massive and felt like it took away from what I'm supposed to be doing: reviewing the headset, not the attached programs. Now it's only a small section of the review. Looks better.

    Today I'll hopefully be finishing up the sound sections and doing final editing. I think at latest, the Air SXFI review will be coming no later than Wednesday, depending on how I progress today and tomorrow.
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2019

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