alex5908
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I am still burning them in.Please tell me how they sound compared to the Opus Mia which sound i know so well?
When I am done I will answer your questions in details. Just wait for 7 days or so.
I am still burning them in.Please tell me how they sound compared to the Opus Mia which sound i know so well?
No worries looking forward to itI am still burning them in.
When I am done I will answer your questions in details. Just wait for 7 days or so.
those are all business man, Z is a joke....he praise to the sky worst HP i ever try, the Blon B50. Giz is Crin friend....both are closely connected to specific brands and seller. I still have minimal respect for Crin...i mean, in the (far away) past he was doing legit review, nowaday it's more thumbs up or down sound impressions (graph reading)...statement...useless imo. As well, he ''review'' IEM he sell at its store. Talk about obvious conflict of interest.So...
Been around for a while but been on this thread trying to get some consensus/clarity.
I really did like my Xenn Mangrids but OF COURSE one went out with no explanation and just being used at a computer ONLY
One thing about these IEMs IN MY XP is that this happens more than any of these reviewers or maybe even people talk about.
It's frustrating and it's not like I'm bring my IEMs everywhere or them getting thrashed from me going around town
It's also hard to really get a strong idea of what is a reliable AND good IEM
My inventory:
-MoonDusk Crinicle Dusk
-TruthEar Hexa
-Xenn Mangrid Tea 2s***
-Yamaha MP200W**
-Sony MDR XB90EX
-Shure 215-CL
-Blon BL03 Hi Fi Hear
-Sony XB700s
-Jabra Elite 85ts**
They have this guy's list and was a Z Reviews watcher for a while but now not sure about Z....
THey have plenty of other YTs that seem to be in the space but like VG reviews seems to be mostly BS...
That being said the above list is at least a baseline. That's at least what I would like to see
Cat's come on here and randomly say this or that IEM but ultimately it's hit or miss IMHO
It would be nice to see what you have to say RumbleW.
IDK how you feel about Z or this guy or this guy or any of the YT types
Looking forward to your input.....
I still have minimal respect for Crin...i mean, in the (far away) past he was doing legit review, nowaday it's more thumbs up or down sound impressions (graph reading)...statement...useless imo. As well, he ''review'' IEM he sell at its store. Talk about obvious conflict of interest.
So...
Been around for a while but been on this thread trying to get some consensus/clarity.
I really did like my Xenn Mangrids but OF COURSE one went out with no explanation and just being used at a computer ONLY
One thing about these IEMs IN MY XP is that this happens more than any of these reviewers or maybe even people talk about.
It's frustrating and it's not like I'm bring my IEMs everywhere or them getting thrashed from me going around town
It's also hard to really get a strong idea of what is a reliable AND good IEM
My inventory:
-MoonDusk Crinicle Dusk
-TruthEar Hexa
-Xenn Mangrid Tea 2s***
-Yamaha MP200W**
-Sony MDR XB90EX
-Shure 215-CL
-Blon BL03 Hi Fi Hear
-Sony XB700s
-Jabra Elite 85ts**
They have this guy's list and was a Z Reviews watcher for a while but now not sure about Z....
THey have plenty of other YTs that seem to be in the space but like VG reviews seems to be mostly BS...
That being said the above list is at least a baseline. That's at least what I would like to see
Cat's come on here and randomly say this or that IEM but ultimately it's hit or miss IMHO
It would be nice to see what you have to say RumbleW.
IDK how you feel about Z or this guy or this guy or any of the YT types
Looking forward to your input.....
those are all business man, Z is a joke....he praise to the sky worst HP i ever try, the Blon B50. Giz is Crin friend....both are closely connected to specific brands and seller. I still have minimal respect for Crin...i mean, in the (far away) past he was doing legit review, nowaday it's more thumbs up or down sound impressions (graph reading)...statement...useless imo. As well, he ''review'' IEM he sell at its store. Talk about obvious conflict of interest.
all in all, youtubers are the worst. better try to do conclusion based on multiple written reviews of same product here on Headfi imo. (yet again....be cautious...when its from HF sponsor their might be sugar coated promoting too)
my fav basshead-ish IEM right now is still BGVP DMA and Soundrhyme DTE500, but i need to try more in 100-500$ price range.
TSMR X is nice too, though it dont punch as hard as DMA it have chunky vibrant rumbly slam and natural timbre bass...and lush mids, not very crisp nor sparkly treble...dual DD in their is magical, and TSMR seem to use it in near all their IEMs right now. it begin with the Feast (good warm bassy iem too)
Letshuoer S08 is a good bassy planar, competitively priced and comfy.
I've been away myself with salmonella poisoning and just getting back now!So...
Been around for a while but been on this thread trying to get some consensus/clarity.
I really did like my Xenn Mangrids but OF COURSE one went out with no explanation and just being used at a computer ONLY
One thing about these IEMs IN MY XP is that this happens more than any of these reviewers or maybe even people talk about.
It's frustrating and it's not like I'm bring my IEMs everywhere or them getting thrashed from me going around town
It's also hard to really get a strong idea of what is a reliable AND good IEM
My inventory:
-MoonDusk Crinicle Dusk
-TruthEar Hexa
-Xenn Mangrid Tea 2s***
-Yamaha MP200W**
-Sony MDR XB90EX
-Shure 215-CL
-Blon BL03 Hi Fi Hear
-Sony XB700s
-Jabra Elite 85ts**
They have this guy's list and was a Z Reviews watcher for a while but now not sure about Z....
THey have plenty of other YTs that seem to be in the space but like VG reviews seems to be mostly BS...
That being said the above list is at least a baseline. That's at least what I would like to see
Cat's come on here and randomly say this or that IEM but ultimately it's hit or miss IMHO
It would be nice to see what you have to say RumbleW.
IDK how you feel about Z or this guy or this guy or any of the YT types
Looking forward to your input.....
Found the bass endgame setup.
For now: Alpha Omega - Omega with the astell and kern se300 with a astell and kern PA10. The thickness this amp adds is unparalleled. It makes the bass gain lots of weight. Waiting for mmy cayin n3ultra so i can output classic tube mode to the PA10 and see what happens. I hope I get gooey euphonic hard hitting bass.
Been actually just thinking of selling the Macbeths and the Omegas Omegas to just get em. Coming from you means a lot! xDYou should hear Alpha Omega Fulgrim. Takes the Omega bass to a different crazy level. Pretty awesome.
What is the bass quantity like? I know the bass quality is fantastic but curious regarding quantity?Found the bass endgame setup.
For now: Alpha Omega - Omega with the astell and kern se300 with a astell and kern PA10. The thickness this amp adds is unparalleled. It makes the bass gain lots of weight. Waiting for mmy cayin n3ultra so i can output classic tube mode to the PA10 and see what happens. I hope I get gooey euphonic hard hitting bass.
I've been away myself with salmonella poisoning and just getting back now!
And yes i would be happy to answer your questions
I think you make a fair & valid point especially with people/reviewers randomly recommending a monitor which turns out to be trash!
BUT? I don't think this is marketing or users who are tone deaf with ill will!
You see it's pretty easy to recommend a balanced monitor but when it comes to bass there are SO many variables which are in play a certain monitor will be perfect just what the person wanted and the same monitor could be the complete opposite for another person!
I think the biggest and most important variables come down to a couple of reasons?
1/ Music Library
2/ Ear Anatomy
3/ Correct EarTip for the monitor & YOU
3/ Correct Fit & SEAL
Music libraries are seldom talked about when discussing in-ear monitor reviews & recommendations, i think the only reviewer which places Music Libraries front & centre in his reviews is BBGR(HBB) and for good reason!
A quick example, if your music library consists of mainly Drum & Bass/Jungle/Dubstep you are going to want a monitor with as much Sub-bass as possible but with a leaner but nice mid-bass punch & warmth finished by a flat midrange & extended Treble. Monitors which come to mind are the the New ThieAudio Origin or the older EE Valkyrie MK2(which i own and LOVE)
On the other hand if your library is Metal or EDM,House ect.. you will want the complete opposite to the above, a stronger mid-bass to punch those kick drums through but with a leaner Sub-bass, monitors which come to mind are the new Dunu BD3001 or the cheaper QKZ x HBB Hades.(Absolute bas cannon but with questionable minds )
Then there is Ear anatomy and choosing the correct tip "For You", just because a Spiral Dot or Spinfit works for person A doesn't mean it will work for Person B!
The most crucial part of the Bass Chain is a PERFECT fit & SEAL and this will only be possible with the correct EarTip "4 U"
I cannot stress how important it is to build up a great collection of EarTips, i now have over 40 different Tips all stored nicely & separate in a finishing tacket box(get yourself one on AliExpress you will thank me later lol)
I always tell people in this hobby, Instead of paying £70-£100 on your next bass cannon buy yourself lots of different Tips and a box to store them and add to them over time it will be the best move you ever made and Tip Rolling will pay serious dividends i promise.
I'm gonna say it again, "SEAL" is the most "IMPORTANT" aspect in achieving the most quantity & quality Bass from your monitor
Also, like many many people including myself you may have different size ear canals, my right is bigger than my left so i quite often use a Large Tip in my right and a M/ML in my Left.
And one last thing i didn't mention above? Frequency Response Graph's are your FRIEND! try to learn to read them there is information all over the internet it will REALLY help
If you have trouble doing this for any reason whatsoever hopefully this will help...
If the line on the graph is pretty flat from 1khz to 250hz then starts rising high quickly to 20hz this will be a "Sub-bass Focused Monitor"
If the line on the graph from 1khz starts slowly rising until around 100hz then starts leveling off until 20hz this is a "Mid-Bass Focused Monitor"
The graph are a little more complicated than this when it comes to midrange & treble but as far as bass goes you can get by with this, just remember you want a slight peak between 10khz-16khz to round out the picture and give a little sparkle in that treble region to cut through the strong bass.
And the lower the line from 1khz-5khz the less focus the monitors midrange will be.
Again it's more complicated than this but it' will get you by and a good start if you want to learn more?
One last thing to remember with bass is the difference between Balance Armatures & Dynamic Driver?
Dynamic Driver tend to have a more powerful bass response with more textures and a slower decay. What this means is the Bass reverberates & lingers for longer, it also moves more air so you can "Feel" the bass as much as hear it. This means it has a much stronger Sub-bass compared to BA's, the music that benefits from DD is Hip-Hop due to them using 808's tuned low also Drum & Bass,Jungle,Dubstep,Grimme are really satisfying with a Dynamic Driver.
Now Balanced Armature Drivers are a lot different with different pros & cons. They are a very fast reaction driver with fast transient response, what this means is the Attack & Decay is much faster meaning the bass will not encroach on the midrange like some dynamic drivers can, but the con is they do not reach the power & textures of DD's especially Sub-Bass. Music that benefits from BA Drivers are complex arrangements with lots going on like Symphony & Classical, Jazz ect..
Don't get me wrong just because you have a BA Bass driver in your monitor doesn't mean you can't listen to hip-hop lol it's just both have there strengths & weaknesses.
BUT things have changed a bit with Sonions Acu BA's which delivers a stunning bass both quantity AND quality the only problem is these are quite expensive at present like Sonion EST's so the monitors which have them are expensive!
Anyway, hope this helps a bit in your quest for the perfect Bass Cannon I've been in this hobby since i was 11 would you believe it and I'm now 50 and a headfi member for over a decade and once you jump down the Bass Rabbit Hole it's hard to come up for air and stop spending £100s and not being satisfied!
I think i "might have" found my 'end-game' IEM in my Empire Ears Valkyrie MK2 which cost me £1.399 which sounds a lot! BUT, i must have spent 5 or 10 times that in the last ten years searching for that perfect Bass Cannon and if i had known then what i say in this post i could have saved LOTS of money & time.
So please think of the above points when your looking at your next bass cannon
Oh, a little recommendation to everyone on here? I bought myself a set of TWS Earbuds recently just because they had a LCD Touch screen lol but ended up with a pair of buds with exceptional bass quantity especially for TWS! And gues what they cost £12 from AliExpress yes "£12"
They are the Xiaomi E18 Pro and with a touch of EQ 6db @60hz & 3db@10khz these slam and are a true bargain like the Rosefinch which everyone should have in there collection even if there not a TWS fan! Hell it's cheaper than a pizzalol
Don't get me wrong they won't win prizes in technicalities and excel in Pop,EDM and well mastered music, but for out & about, taking the dog for a walk or the gym they are a true gem and for £12 you can't go wrong.
I purchased a set in white and then ordered some in black!
I'm actually listening to them right now and it's best £12 IV EVER spent
Happy Hunting My Fellow Headfi'ers
UPDATE
Had to add this here due to the silly new double post rules
In regards to YouTube reviewers it's very difficult to see the tree's through the Forrest!
Most are talented enough to create these reviews BUT it's the motive for doing the review which is a problem.
There is NO WAY whatever to know if they are getting paid for said reviews and some could even be sponsored by brands, but the biggest problem is we will probably never know?
There is only one or two at the most that i trust, he buys ALL his monitors with his own money and i have been following him since he started with reviewing GS Audio IEM's.
If you don't know who I'm talking about his tag is "Akros" he is a South African guy with really great knowledge of sound reproduction especially IEM's & Car Hi-fi, if you haven't seen any of his reviews i recommend looking him up on YouTube
The other is BBGR(HBB) I know what you are gonna say "He's in the pocket of more IEM brands than Linsoul" lol
BUT, the reason i bring him up is due to his reviews being Music Library based!
I can't stress enough how important this is so i look past his murky side and trust his reviews in general.
As far as Z , Cin & Giz? as i said they are talented and probably really great people BUT you don't know there motive due to the fact they get monitors sent to them for free and as we all know "Nothing in life is Free"
So my advice is the same as MakeItWain
take these reviewers & there IEM reviews with a pinch of salt as a "Rough Guide" and then do your homework and ask as many people on headfi and read as many headfi reviews as possible.
Last but not least, use all the tips i give above and start building YOUR knowledge of IEM Sound Reproduction and after a while you won't need to count on reviewers so much because you will have the knowledge yourself
Also, if there is anything you want to know or learn drop me a PM and i will try to get back to you asap, it might take a day or two but i will defo get back to you.
Thanks for the kind wordsWell Damn.....
So I'll say this...
First welcome back.
Second.. that is quite the response.....I think you would get murdered on Reddit for a response like that but I DO appreciate the input.....
Also IDK if you saw the link to the "list" here and curious on what you think of it
I am a Hip Hop Head so I totally understand what you are saying in regards to the types of music and genre of things one would listen to...
That being said...
I DO like the Moondusk Crins I have and the are my mains right now
They Yamaha's are the old go to if things go south.
crap I liked the Xenn Mangrids as well
If I was to compare them tho I liked the Xenn's and felt like the feel and look was above the Moondusk but the sound and feel I would give an ever so slight nudge to the Moondusk Crins...
The TruthEar is SUPPOSED to be the most balanced and bassy IEMs for that price range but I find them unimpressive. Not bad just not ultimate..
I checked into your guy....Akros9333....seems like he has that Z format but perhaps truly honest reviews....Well dwelve into more of his vids and see.....
AGain I listen to music on my Comp at times but mostly used the IEMs for Gaming and the pricey ones dont go anywhere but rest on my desk....
I am hoping these Crins can last....we'll see
Again thanks for the input.....