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May 24, 2024 at 8:51 PM Post #65,806 of 66,291
If not already mentioned many people found the RS1x to need a lot of break in/playing time to hit their stride
(300 hrs) I found the bass became more detailed and impact improved. Mids and highs sound more refined and natural. Right now I have been giving my GS3000x more playtime, I am expecting a bit more change.

In some cases other models are usually fine within 100 hours or so.

Here’s some pennies to go along with my thoughts, nothing more than that.
Your thoughts are worth far more than pennies, and therefore why give away money on top of it. I'm still wrestling with the world of my GS3000x. It might go into the category of the pre-still-life paintings of Cezanne for me, I fully understand why they are exquisite but I really don't like them.
 
May 24, 2024 at 8:52 PM Post #65,807 of 66,291
I'm always debating if the headphone actually breaks in or your brain. e.g. you get used to it. B/c I am not sure what would physically change in there
They change for sure. I like immediate gratification plus I am not the placebo effect type. They change.
 
May 24, 2024 at 8:54 PM Post #65,808 of 66,291
Yeah, I am listening on a very neutral solid state amp, I am sure a tube or tube hybrid would help beef up the sound a bit, which i think is the RS1X's biggest weakness. Some music sounds a bit thin on it, so its not going to work for everything.

The hemp was beefy, but at way too much expense of clarity.

This is the standout track so far for me on the RS-1x. You'd think it would be classic rock or something, but surprisingly not, I liked the presentation on this better than on my much bassier H95:.

Most owners of the RS1x on this thread agree it may take 100-150 hours of use before the headphone sounds their best. (Notice I didn't say burn-in)
 
May 24, 2024 at 9:29 PM Post #65,809 of 66,291
After all this chat about the RS1x, I put my 3000x back on the rack and plugged my balanced RS1s unit into my V222. I have been using the L pads for a while now as I like them more than the Flats or G pads. That is, until tonight. Sometimes your brain is different than before. What was great last night is meh today. Put the G pads on and I'm once again in sonic bliss.

It's great to have options!
 
May 25, 2024 at 12:45 AM Post #65,811 of 66,291
An insanely good combination -- Grado GS3000x / Schiit Vali 3 / Telefunken 'medical grade, red tip' 12AU7 via adapter:
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"It's alive!"
 
May 25, 2024 at 1:47 AM Post #65,813 of 66,291
An insanely good combination -- Grado GS3000x / Schiit Vali 3 / Telefunken 'medical grade, red tip' 12AU7 via adapter:IMG_8127.jpegIMG_8131.jpeg "It's alive!"
I've just done a crazy search for that tube with no success whatsoever, even in the few deep dark alleyways of the interwebs I know about, I can't find it anywhere, I know there are a lot of counterfeits. The au6 red tip medical grade is around but that's it. Thoughts, source, like that?
 
May 25, 2024 at 3:02 AM Post #65,814 of 66,291
I'm always debating if the headphone actually breaks in or your brain. e.g. you get used to it. B/c I am not sure what would physically change in there
I do think getting more acclimated to any new component is always a part of it. I base my thoughts on my experiences in years in retail audio. Speakers that were on display and had plenty of playtime would sound better than new ones out of the box. Manufacturers started to recommend break in times which were individual to the specific models.

I know for me most of my headphones were pretty good out of the box new but most often did improve as they got in more and more playtime.
 
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May 25, 2024 at 4:35 AM Post #65,815 of 66,291
If not already mentioned many people found the RS1x to need a lot of break in/playing time to hit their stride
(300 hrs) I found the bass became more detailed and impact improved. Mids and highs sound more refined and natural. Right now I have been giving my GS3000x more playtime, I am expecting a bit more change.

In some cases other models are usually fine within 100 hours or so.

Here’s some pennies to go along with my thoughts, nothing more than that.
I agree. My RS1X needed a long time before it really "opened up". I remember in my case at least 10-12 months. I am not listening that loud, perhaps that's the reason.
 
May 25, 2024 at 9:51 AM Post #65,816 of 66,291
Hey ya’ll, long time Grado lover here. I still miss the RS2’s I had back in 2014.

Anyway I just bought the Grado Whites that were for sale here and I’m psyched to get back into the higher end Grado sound. Years back now, I bought some GS1000x’s but the gimbals kept falling apart so I was able to return them to Grado directly and I wound up buying some Audeze LCD X. I’ve missed the G cup Grado’s every day since! The Audeze are just so boring by comparison.

TLDR; I’ll be having a pair of the White Grados in for comparison to 225 and 1000, both X series.
 
May 25, 2024 at 7:51 PM Post #65,818 of 66,291
.... Years back now, I bought some GS1000x’s but the gimbals kept falling apart so I was able to return them to Grado directly and I wound up buying Audeze LCD-X.
• .... times are different. For the larger (G-pad) Grados -- Statement Series (GS), Professional Series (PS) -- there are aftermarket aluminium gimbal / rod / block assemblies offered by Nyczaj Audio.
• These are 'solid'!, built to last!, and look great! On GS3000x and on PS2000e ....
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May 26, 2024 at 10:51 AM Post #65,819 of 66,291
I'm always debating if the headphone actually breaks in or your brain. e.g. you get used to it. B/c I am not sure what would physically change in there
Brain burn-in and pad burn-in, 100% with all headphones. Driver burn-in Ive not experienced past the first minute, and zero if the headphone had been tested during quality control for channel balance.

Some opinion:
https://www.audioholics.com/loudspeaker-design/speaker-break-in-fact-or-fiction

Has anyone compared a 325x to an RS2e? I’ve read some information saying the 325x is actually the better headphone.
I may have. Search this thread for posts by me and keyword RS2e.
 
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May 26, 2024 at 11:33 AM Post #65,820 of 66,291
Brain burn-in and pad burn-in, 100% with all headphones. Driver burn-in Ive not experienced past the first minute, and zero if the headphone had been tested during quality control for channel balance.

Some opinion:
https://www.audioholics.com/loudspeaker-design/speaker-break-in-fact-or-fiction


I may have. Search this thread for posts by me and keyword RS2e.
I experience burn-in (or whatever you want to call the change of sonical qualities for the better in the first x hours of use) a lot. That includes letting a headphone just play music for a certain amount of time while not actively listening. So it can't be "brain in". And i am not saying it always works, some headphones just stay boring/unengaging. But some really take a turn for the better.
 

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