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Gippy
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Has anyone compared PS500e vs. PS1000e vs. PS2000e?
PS500e = 44mm driver. Quite a number of fans, but there's a few who have directly compared the PS500e against the older PS500/HF2 and find the older model to be better.
PS1000e = 50mm driver. You can see in ruthieandjohn's review that he preferred the older PS1000 which used the old 44mm driver. This is probably an indictment because every single 50mm model (e.g. RS1e, GS2000e) has had divisive opinions. But he also loved the GS2000e so take that as you will.
PS2000e = "new" 50mm driver, which you can notice with extra face holes and a finer face cloth. People seemed to have reacted to this driver more positively. But it's your call if you think this is worth 50% more than the GS3000e which came later and probably uses the same driver.
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Thanks guys. I am going to look for a PS1000 (non-e)...PS500e = 44mm driver. Quite a number of fans, but there's a few who have directly compared the PS500e against the older PS500/HF2 and find the older model to be better.
PS1000e = 50mm driver. You can see in ruthieandjohn's review that he preferred the older PS1000 which used the old 44mm driver. This is probably an indictment because every single 50mm model (e.g. RS1e, GS2000e) has had divisive opinions. But he also loved the GS2000e so take that as you will.
PS2000e = "new" 50mm driver, which you can notice with extra face holes and a finer face cloth. People seemed to have reacted to this driver more positively. But it's your call if you think this is worth 50% more than the GS3000e which came later and probably uses the same driver.
If anyone here got a PS1000, and is interested in selling - please PM me
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Joaquin Dinero
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One thing I've found that helps mitigate the heavy cups in the PS1000 is using shallower pads, which pulls the weight closer to your head. It makes them better balanced and less awkward on your head.
The ones I have are from Geekria (I think). They have a similar diameter to the Grado G cushions but shallower depth. They will change the sound some; a little closer to that "right up front" vibe of the on ears vs the spaciousness of the G cushions. But I have the GS1000i for that
The ones I have are from Geekria (I think). They have a similar diameter to the Grado G cushions but shallower depth. They will change the sound some; a little closer to that "right up front" vibe of the on ears vs the spaciousness of the G cushions. But I have the GS1000i for that
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Question to the Grado experts here:
What is the difference between the matte PS1000 and shiny silver PS1000 (both non-e models)?
What is the difference between the matte PS1000 and shiny silver PS1000 (both non-e models)?
Joaquin Dinero
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I'm pretty sure its cosmetic only. The matte was the original and then they switched to the chrome.Question to the Grado experts here:
What is the difference between the matte PS1000 and shiny silver PS1000 (both non-e models)?
snapple10
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Trying the PS1000 with F pads now, and does make a difference compare to the G pads. thanksOne thing I've found that helps mitigate the heavy cups in the PS1000 is using shallower pads, which pulls the weight closer to your head. It makes them better balanced and less awkward on your head.
The ones I have are from Geekria (I think). They have a similar diameter to the Grado G cushions but shallower depth. They will change the sound some; a little closer to that "right up front" vibe of the on ears vs the spaciousness of the G cushions. But I have the GS1000i for that
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jonathan c
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The following may be of interest:PS2000e = "new" 50mm driver, which you can notice with extra face holes and a finer face cloth. People seemed to have reacted to this driver more positively. But it's your call if you think this is worth 50% more than the GS3000e which came later and probably uses the same driver.
Joaquin Dinero
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That's interesting. I would have naturally assumed they were largely the same. Probably because I'm lazy and I would have just made them the same (I have neither model)
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Over 20 yrs old. My first Grados. Had them rewired here in HK about 10 years ago and they're still sounding great.
Tested them vs RS2 vs GS1000i and there are huge, noticeable and quantifiable differences.
The SR80 have decent bass, mids, soundstage and treble. Very listenable and enjoyable and I believe if I were to ever mod them to have interchangeable cables they'd be even better.
The RS2 immediately have much better mids, more lush. The bass is also much better, you can feel the thud in your chest, not the kind that blows your head off. Soundstage is slightly better than the SR80.
The GS1000i is a whole new level. Soundstage is massive and everything sounds so much more elegant. Lush mids, nice bass, just enough treble.
Listening to Kruangbin & Leon Bridges Texas Moon and couldn't be happier.
Tested them vs RS2 vs GS1000i and there are huge, noticeable and quantifiable differences.
The SR80 have decent bass, mids, soundstage and treble. Very listenable and enjoyable and I believe if I were to ever mod them to have interchangeable cables they'd be even better.
The RS2 immediately have much better mids, more lush. The bass is also much better, you can feel the thud in your chest, not the kind that blows your head off. Soundstage is slightly better than the SR80.
The GS1000i is a whole new level. Soundstage is massive and everything sounds so much more elegant. Lush mids, nice bass, just enough treble.
Listening to Kruangbin & Leon Bridges Texas Moon and couldn't be happier.
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C9 does the GH2 even better, GH2++ I must say. C9 is really a magic box honestly.
Installed some Shipibo aluminum with a pebbled black Turbulent Labs headband on the GH2 as well.
Installed some Shipibo aluminum with a pebbled black Turbulent Labs headband on the GH2 as well.
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I was thinking about Shipido or BeautifulAudio. Have you seen the mods that Custom Cans does in the UK? He has a YouTube channel a d he modded the PS1000e and said it was the most difficult he's ever done.C9 does the GH2 even better, GH2++ I must say. C9 is really a magic box honestly.
Installed some Shipibo aluminum with a pebbled black Turbulent Labs headband on the GH2 as well.
I was a few days away from my 325x, kept it in the closet and was using the 80e for a week just for fun. Today I get it again. My God, in shock again at how great it is. Interesting, I'm finding it more of a classic Grado now, the signature is all here, but everything have so much body, so much punch and spark. What an amazing headphone, what a achivement. God bless Grado.
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The following may be of interest: (Grado's response to driver inquiry)
Well, yes, that answer is forced. Did you expect them to admit that they made a cheaper model a year later with the same driver, thus screwing over any dealers who may still have PS2000e stock? They know that any e-mail response would be widely spread. It's in their best interest to say that every model has a different driver, even when comparing something like the SR60(e/x)/80(e/x). Even if the SR60(e/x) and SR80(e/x) drivers really were different, some have said that they can't tell the difference.
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