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DUNU DK-4001 --- Discussion Thread [To Be Released in November]

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  1. tomscy2000
    Note: This post will be updated regularly with the latest information and commentary. Changelogs summarizing the edits will be posted periodically. Please keep in mind that the information presented in this post is a mixture of information provided to me from DUNU, as well as bits and pieces of information that I've pieced together from various internet sources such as Weibo, Baidu, etc.

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    This is the yet to be released DUNU DK-4001, a flagship, five-driver hybrid IEM. It is dubbed , which translates roughly to 'extreme'.

    The DK-4001 is not a newly announced earphone; DUNU has been working on their hybrid flagship IEM for nearly four years, since before they released their popular Titan series earphones, the DN-2000J, and DK-3001. It has always been the goal for them --- to release a flagship level universal IEM that can compete with the highest-end models around. Heading the DK-4001 project is Mr. 'Andy' Zhao, DUNU's senior acoustic engineer.

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    Recently, small tidbits of final production details about the DUNU DK-4001 have trickled out into the open, and they seem really promising. It seems to be on the cusp of release within the next month or two, and I am hyped.

    It's been a long time coming, and the DK-4001 has seen a lot of major changes. Back in 2015, while I was visiting DUNU headquarters, I posted this picture on these forums:

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    It was their very first prototype. Truth be told, it sounded pretty terrible --- super strident and piercing. But there was a ton of detail in the mids. It's the kind of thing you'd expect to hear if it were a very early work in progress, and early it was. They were still working on the DK-3001 then, and that prototype was way closer to the finished version they released early this year.

    Over these past few years, they gone back to the drawing board and made a ton of changes. The DK-4001 now looks a little different; the round backplate is a different design, and the cables are different. but it seems like the real changes are more than skin deep, and this is what I really appreciate about DUNU as a company --- they're willing to iterate and improve with each generation of in-ears.

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    New Changes

    Housing

    Like the Falcon-C, the housings are now the Zirconium 'liquid metal' alloy, instead of 316L stainless steel, boasting several fold improvements in yield strength, hardness, and weight.

    Additionally, DUNU states the housings are actually smaller, lighter, and less angular than the ones on the DK-4001.


    Transducer Diaphragm

    The round backplate still harbors a 13 mm dynamic driver, but instead of liquid crystal polymer (LCP) or carbon nanotube (CNT) coatings, this driver is Beryllium-bonded via a physical vapor deposition (PVD) process --- similar to what Campfire Audio offers on the Lyra II and Dorado. Beyond audio, PVD is a process that is used in a large number of thin coating applications; for instance, Apple uses a specialized PVD process to colorize the stainless steel frames on the iPhone and Apple Watch. However, while the process is in widespread use, it has to be adapted specifically for a singular purpose, e.g. driver coating.

    In short, a substrate material (e.g. a transducer diaphragm) is placed opposite the material intended to be coated, which is in this case Beryllium (but can be any kind of material, and many other types of transducers are coated the same way, including DUNU's own titanium, LCP, and CNT coated diaphragms; even other exotic diaphragm materials like graphene diaphragms, are often made the same way). A magnetic field then guides an inert gas like Argon to displace the Beryllium and deposit onto the substrate surface along a thermochemical gradient in a process called sputtering.

    For a layman's explanation of the PVD process, check out these videos:


    As stated on their website, DUNU have a arm of driver development, dedicated specifically in the R&D of thin film (4-6 micron level thickness) and metal-bonding techniques. With DUNU having had a terrific track record with their diaphragms (titanium on the Titan series, LCP on the DN2000J & DK-3001, and CNT on the Falcon-C), this Beryllium PVD diaphragm is promising.

    Part of what has taken DUNU a while to develop Beryllium coating is safety. Beryllium is known to cause pneumoconioses (chronic lung disease as a result of microscopic foreign body deposition) in exposed workers (usually in the aerospace industry, where Beryllium classically has been used most heavily), depositing in the lungs and causing granulomatous fibrosis. Thus, learning how to safely handle Beryllium raw material (assuming it's in powdered form of some sort) without running up exorbitant costs was part of the learning curve for DUNU.

    Furthermore, DUNU have also informed me that the Beryllium PVD diaphragm is bonded on both sides to ensure better vibrational characteristics. The dual-sided coating also factors into the high cost of the DK-4001. By contrast, the yet-to-be formally announced Titan 6 has a single-sided coating of Beryllium and will thus be sold at lower cost.

    Spiral Bass Reflex Pathway

    As I've been looking at their renders and marketing material, I find there are a number of small, but notable details about the DK-4001. First, check out this back plate:

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    It appears to be a bass reflex spiral of some sort, exiting into rear vent. I'd been wondering why the back casing had been changed (with a large silvery vent no less), but I didn't know the insides were this sophisticated. I also feel the back plate now looks more attractive than the ones on the DK-3001.

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    As many of you may know, a properly designed bass port is essential for crafting the right kind of bass response. I'm sure the length and diameter of that spiral path has been carefully considered. DUNU have informed me that the spiral path is designed to bolter bass frequencies under 80 Hz. It would be great if DUNU could show us the difference in bass response between a DK-4001 with just a simple bass vent, and one with the spiral reflex design.

    Then, check out the machining on the exit ports, and this cutaway diagram:

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    It looks like the four Knowles BA units will have their own independent outputs. This means that the BA units will be used for separate frequency ranges. Because the beryllium-coated dynamic driver handles frequencies all the way from the lows to the upper midrange, one of the balanced armature outputs will handle the highs, and the other will handle the upper treble. Note that the drivers on top are slightly larger in size, so they may possibly be two FH drivers or RAB drivers put together (not confirmed, only a guesstimate based on the relative size of the drivers) to handle the treble, while the latter will almost certainly be a SWFK derivative model to serve as super tweeters (also not confirmed).

    While these tubes are made from standard PVC acoustic tubing used in CIEMs and don't use exotic metal materials, this is still the most complex design I've seen from DUNU so far. While I haven't examined the DK-3001 carefully, I don't think it is this complex. There's still the question of how the pathways are optimized, but hopefully DUNU's extensive experience with hybrids, stemming all the way from the DN-1000, means the sound on the DK-4001 will be cohesive, yet well-layered and separated.

    Putting it all together, we can see from this exploded view of the DK-4001 that it is a very impressively constructed IEM by any measure. We've got the rear plate with the bass reflex spiral and grooves for mounting the circular PCB, the Beryllium-coated 13 mm dynamic driver, the four BA drivers, the independent tubing outputs, the less angular (compared to the 3001) inner plate, and the meshed stem with a friction lip.

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    I don't usually care to post basic specifications, but the DK-4001 has a sensitivity of 112 dB at 1 kHz on nominal drive, with an impedance of 32 ohms. These numbers are considerably different from those presented on the DK-3001, so while the two bear some passing resemblance, they are completely different earphones.

    Modular Cable Plug System

    Then, there are those new, thicker (and twisted) cables. The material itself is composed of alternating strands of 7N copper and silver, but the real hero feature is the modular, swappable plug system.

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    DUNU are not the first to implement such a system (DITA Audio and MEE Audio come to mind), but it seems DUNU are including a set of cables that enable the user to swap out the ends to fit 3.5 mm TRS unbalanced, 2.5 mm TRRS balanced, 3.5 mm TRRS balanced (this is based around a new '3.5 mm PRO' standard that a Chinese audio association has set, and is agreed upon by numerous Chinese companies), and 4.4 mm Pentaconn balanced plugs:

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    DUNU states that they are including this swappable plug cable system with the DK-4001, and will also be available as a standalone product later on.

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    As is expected per DUNU, the DK-4001 includes a wide array of tips: SpinFit tips paired specifically for the DK-4001, Comply T-500, and DUNU's own silicone ear tips that have been developed and paired for the DK-4001.

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    According to DUNU, this is the final packaging for the DK-4001; the modular cable is displayed proudly with the earphones, along with some steel plaque of some sort (some kind of serial number thingy, perhaps?). The second layer includes Comply foams, the bespoke SpinFit tips, and DUNU's own silicone tips, as well as a new lambskin case, and other standard accessories, such as a cleaning brush, 6.3 mm adapter, and airplane adapter.

    Value coup! Well, okay, not sure about that --- the DK-4001 is not going to be cheap, currently expected to be $880 USD / 5999 CNY.

    Despite how much effort DUNU has put in with the DK-4001, though, and considering the general trend of IEM pricing heading toward the thousands, this flagship is facing stiff competition. As a point of reference, another notable Chinese flagship hybrid, the Fidue A91 Sirius, is similarly priced at $899. The AKG N5005, a benchmark of audiophile hybrid prestige (since its predecessor debuted as one of the first IEMs priced above $1000), is surprisingly affordable at $999. There are many more models in the same price range, hybrid or not, that will invariantly be compared to the DK-4001.

    Global pre-orders are set for the end of October 2018 (with shipping delayed to late November 2018 because of difficulties in the production process), while pre-orders in Mainland China are set for the end of September.

    Disclaimer & Backstory
    Because I live within 30 minutes of their corporate headquarters, I have had an ongoing, friendly engagement with the folks from DUNU. I've reviewed number of their products, including the DN-2000J, and the Titan 1/3/5/es models. Back in 2011, I was a young head-fier constantly on the lookout for cool products, and they were a young company looking to establish a name for themselves. I tried the Trident and Tai-Chi and thought they were the definition of mediocre. I met their PR guy and told them their earphones sounded middling. Fast forward a few years, and DUNU have improved a lot, introducing items like the DN-1000 and DN-2000. I again met them, and found that they were rapidly gaining momentum with their product lineup. By then, I was a veteran head-fier who was very active and involved in the forums. So, I decided to speak with them at depth, and I toured their headquarters. I have time and time again been impressed by how they have consistently improved with each subsequent product release, but by no means do I give them a free pass. I always try to provide them with candid criticism. So yes, I do have a positive bias toward them, but in the case I do get to listen/use the DK-4001, I will always provide my opinions with frank candor.
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2018
  2. tomscy2000
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  3. Space_Wadet
    Rumored pricing according to chinese forums is somwhere between 5000-5999RMB, so around 730-875USD. And the exchangeable cable is included.
    Latest release date is supposed to be end of September. I'll attend the hifi show in Beijing this weekend where DUNU will be, will report back if I find out more.
     
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  4. mochill
    I am seriously waiting for these as well, love the dn2kj .
     
  5. tomscy2000
    Thanks. Certainly more than what I expected, but the price makes sense. They want this to be a statement product. Will try to verify with the DUNU people.
     
  6. mochill
    Please be $500 , please be $500 , please be $500
     
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  7. tomscy2000
    Not likely. Should be at least $699, because in the link provided by @Space_Wadet an official DUNU rep replied on the thread stating that it would be "5000+ CNY" verbatim, and the forum members guessed it would be closer to 5999 RMB.

    Factor in the US-China trade war, and you might be looking at $799.
     
  8. papa_mia
    Ok so the same disastrous fit and comfort like the old models by the look of it?
     
  9. tomscy2000
    How old? The DN-1000/2000/2002 were hit or miss for fit, but I find the DK-3001 and Falcon-C to be good fits (especially the Falcon). The DK-4001 should fit like the DK-3001.
     
  10. tomscy2000
    This is what FiiO's president @JamesFiiO had to say about the DK-4001:
    It translates roughly to:
     
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  11. chungoooo
    Oh men... I bought the IT04 one month ago... And i had a good experience with my DN-1000... Again to put some savings apart and wait for impressions... :frowning2:
    This is sooooo cruel..
     
  12. papa_mia
    The DK-3001. I can never get thry stay in plave on my ears, and if they do, just 5 minutes later my ears start to hurt.
     
  13. tomscy2000
    Hmm, that's too bad. I think most people find it to be comfortable. Maybe you should stay away from the 4001 as well.
     
  14. papa_mia
    Yeah, it's too bad. They could've have made a friendlier design and they would've been the best IEMs ever. I'll see myself out.
     
  15. DUNU-Topsound
    DK-4001 is Zirconium alloy housing with smooth shap and lighter weight, it would fits most of people's ear canal :slight_smile:
     
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2018
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