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May 20, 2016 at 4:12 PM Post #37,998 of 42,298
that is a hard question to answer, logically i'm going to say the HEK.



Decisions decisions.  I may just have to get both.


And I have to throw a spanner in the works. Sorry. I suport the DAC for making the biggest improvement.
Although I haven't heard the HE1K I did listen to the following HP's on my WA22. HD800, HD800S, LCD-X, LCD-3 and Ether C. None made a big of a difference than what changing the DAC did. HP's were like tweaks. DAC improved everything.
 
May 20, 2016 at 4:16 PM Post #37,999 of 42,298
And I have to throw a spanner in the works. Sorry. I suport the DAC for making the biggest improvement.
Although I haven't heard the HE1K I did listen to the following HP's on my WA22. HD800, HD800S, LCD-X, LCD-3 and Ether C. None made a big of a difference than what changing the DAC did. HP's were like tweaks. DAC improved everything.

well, it is a huge part of it! its very hard for me to say. the DAC was huge the HP was huge and the amps + tubes have also been huge! i will say the HP can only be as good as the source! 
 
May 20, 2016 at 7:04 PM Post #38,000 of 42,298
What type of fuse does the WA22 take?


Answer my own question. Was too lazy to search this morning:
3.15 amp 250V slow-blow fuse. 5mm * 20mm.
 
May 20, 2016 at 7:46 PM Post #38,002 of 42,298
  Hey guys thought I should share a new contender for first place best low priced rectifier!  Just ordered a backup set at US$10 for a NOS pair.  The NU 5W4GT I have been listening to for the past 2 hours in the 6SE is exceptional.  My research showed it should work in the WA6/6SE and Jack confirmed.  This tube is giving me a taste of some of the Magic I enjoy in music!
 
Anyone else tried this?
 
As always, YMMV - results optical from computer to Benchmark DAC1 to WA6SE driven by International big bottle 6DR7 to HD650 to ears to Smile!
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At 7.50 per rectifier, shipped, they'd have to be plain bad to not be worth that price. I'm in for a pair, and if they're good, I'll probably get a few more.
 
edit: Also about rectifiers, I think it's been established that any tube can sound different in different configurations. Different amps ask different things of their tubes. The Brimar might sound better in one amp than another, who knows. For me, it is very good, but just not at the level of the top rectifiers. It's recommended so much because of the price, and it is only beat by a few tubes.
 
May 20, 2016 at 11:10 PM Post #38,003 of 42,298
  At 7.50 per rectifier, shipped, they'd have to be plain bad to not be worth that price. I'm in for a pair, and if they're good, I'll probably get a few more.
 
edit: Also about rectifiers, I think it's been established that any tube can sound different in different configurations. Different amps ask different things of their tubes. The Brimar might sound better in one amp than another, who knows. For me, it is very good, but just not at the level of the top rectifiers. It's recommended so much because of the price, and it is only beat by a few tubes.


Hope you enjoy!
 
May 21, 2016 at 12:36 AM Post #38,004 of 42,298
 
Some disagree but a fuse is a tweak as dramatic sometimes as driver tube change.

In one way it's the same. No fuse = no sound. No tube = no sound.
 
May 21, 2016 at 8:46 AM Post #38,006 of 42,298
  I have listened to the Metal Base GZ34 and my impressions were that it was an overrated tube as well.  To me the tube sounded like it lacked emotion unlike the GZ32.  The Bass on this tube is very good, but the rest did sound slightly muddy in comparison to the top tiers.  The best tube I have heard is the TAK274b and then the WE422a in second. Maybe, Metal base GZ34 is not suited for the WA22 and definitely not worth what it sells for.   

the Metal Base GZ34 shines more with the WA5-LE, with the WA22 its another story to the max. 
 
tubes react differently when it comes to a different tube amp designs etc. i won't call it overrated at all, people who praised it was using it on the WA5-LE. 
 
May 21, 2016 at 8:54 AM Post #38,007 of 42,298
And I have to throw a spanner in the works. Sorry. I suport the DAC for making the biggest improvement.
Although I haven't heard the HE1K I did listen to the following HP's on my WA22. HD800, HD800S, LCD-X, LCD-3 and Ether C. None made a big of a difference than what changing the DAC did. HP's were like tweaks. DAC improved everything.

 
@Badas Your opinion is much appreciated.  I'm leaning toward the DAC making the biggest difference too.  Not sure which DAC to upgrade to though. 
 
May 21, 2016 at 9:26 AM Post #38,008 of 42,298
will order 2x BRIMAR 5Z4GY for the WA5-LE, also bought Mullard GZ34 (black base) matched pair.
 
good start i guess, tell i go later with the Metal Base, TAK set and Elrog <3. my WA5-LE will be here later next week or so.
 

 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/5Z4GY-CV1863-KB-FE-STC-BRIMAR-NOS-BOXED/310653909306?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&_trksid=p5197.c100068.m2280&_trkparms=ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211130857%26meid%3D2b2a71e031ab4251bb277c585af10b9d%26pid%3D100068%26clkid%3D5564052795993498344&_qi=RTM2063723
 
 
should i be worried about getting a matched pair or? since this is for the WA5-LE. or i will be fine with order two tubes and just using them without worried about a channel over powering the other one?
 
May 21, 2016 at 12:40 PM Post #38,009 of 42,298
  will order 2x BRIMAR 5Z4GY for the WA5-LE, also bought Mullard GZ34 (black base) matched pair.
 
good start i guess, tell i go later with the Metal Base, TAK set and Elrog <3. my WA5-LE will be here later next week or so.
 

 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/5Z4GY-CV1863-KB-FE-STC-BRIMAR-NOS-BOXED/310653909306?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&_trksid=p5197.c100068.m2280&_trkparms=ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211130857%26meid%3D2b2a71e031ab4251bb277c585af10b9d%26pid%3D100068%26clkid%3D5564052795993498344&_qi=RTM2063723
 
 
should i be worried about getting a matched pair or? since this is for the WA5-LE. or i will be fine with order two tubes and just using them without worried about a channel over powering the other one?


I have a fair number of carefully matched pairs of power and driver tubes. I also have a fair number of pairs that were not matched. All the unmatched pairs were sourced from known reliable sellers of true NOS like your Brimar 5Z4GY. No issues what so ever but my amps are only a WA6 and WA22. I think you will be fine.
 
May 21, 2016 at 2:54 PM Post #38,010 of 42,298
  the Metal Base GZ34 shines more with the WA5-LE, with the WA22 its another story to the max. 
 
tubes react differently when it comes to a different tube amp designs etc. i won't call it overrated at all, people who praised it was using it on the WA5-LE. 

 
 
I bought a pristine bugle boy logo NOS metal gz34. I thought the midrange was really liquid and holographic in the wa22 and enjoyed it for that. It is not as resolving or have as wide a sound stage as a we274 but I liked the midrange. That's its real strength I try to like it for what it is. Some people think that it is muddy and slow so ymmv. I've heard other metal gz34 that were good with the midrange also but this one bugle boy really stood out in the wa22. It is nice in the wa5le more resolving than the non-metal I think.
 

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