The Fiio X5 Thread
Oct 28, 2013 at 10:09 AM Post #1,471 of 19,652
  sure, but I remembered that I should posted it before, anyway, we have noting to hide and don't like to remark or erase the model number.
 
4 OPA1612 worked as I/V convertor and low fass filer and votage amplifer. OPA1612 includes two channels in one chip. and we used OPA1611( single channel ) in our E12.
 
2 LMH6643 as buffer, each for one channel , and LMH6643 includes two channels in one chip.
 
And don't make mistake again, T.R.A.N.C.E the amp section is powered by +/- 6V (12 V swing )

 
James, you just made me very excited! I really like the choice of op amps. LMH6643 has always been a favorite buffer of mine. And OPA1612 is a great choice for the filter and amplifier, very accurate, balanced and detailed. 
 
Some purists might question the use of dual channel op amps though, is there a reason you went with dual channel op amps, rather than single channel like the OPA1611 and LMH6642?
 
Let me again say how happy I am with the op amp selection! James you really should try and release the X5 earlier than March. Make it December so we can all give X5's to each other for christmas!
 
Oct 28, 2013 at 10:12 AM Post #1,472 of 19,652
   
James, you just made me very excited! I really like the choice of op amps. LMH6643 has always been a favorite buffer of mine. And OPA1612 is a great choice for the filter and amplifier, very accurate, balanced and detailed.
 
Some purists might question the use of dual channel op amps though, is there a reason you went with dual channel op amps, rather than single channel like the OPA1611 and LMH6642?
 
Let me again say how happy I am with the op amp selection! James you really should try and release the X5 earlier than March. Make it December so we can all give X5's to each other for christmas!

 
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Oct 28, 2013 at 11:20 AM Post #1,475 of 19,652
But the question is:
The DAC inside X5 will support DSD natively or will be just another gimming like in AK120?

 
The PCM1792A is a monolithic CMOS integrated circuit that includes stereo digital-to-analog converters and support circuitry in a small 28-lead SSOP package. The data converters use TI’s advanced segment DAC architecture to achieve excellent dynamic performance and improved tolerance to clock jitter. The PCM1792A provides balanced current outputs, allowing the user to optimize analog performance externally. The PCM1792A accepts PCM and DSD audio data formats,
 
http://www.ti.com/product/pcm1792a#relprod
 
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Oct 28, 2013 at 11:41 AM Post #1,476 of 19,652
Excellent, can't wait for the release!!!

One question: will it have an ( relatively ) easy replaceable battery? ( or it will be soldered to the board... )

Best regards.
 
Oct 28, 2013 at 1:29 PM Post #1,477 of 19,652
Hi all,

4 OPA1612 worked as I/V convertor and low fass filer and votage amplifer. OPA1612 includes two channels in one chip. and we used OPA1611( single channel ) in our E12.

2 LMH6643 as buffer, each for one channel , and LMH6643 includes two channels in one chip.


That's a lot of chips... Twice as much as needed, no ? This plus the question about the headphone plug :
you will find the difference in the connetor, both micro usb socket and headphone socket if someone compare the two photos. anyone find it?


Plus the fact that the chosen dac chip is Balanced... Would the x5 be balanced on TRRS plugs ?
 
Oct 28, 2013 at 2:48 PM Post #1,478 of 19,652
Hi all,
That's a lot of chips... Twice as much as needed, no ?
 

 
Not twice as much. PCM1792 outputs differential current signal, so each channel needs two opamp (*one dual channel chip) to convert to differential voltage, then follows by one dual channels opamp for both differential-to-single ended conversion as well as LPF. That means the DAC itself will need either 3 dual channels opamp or 6 mono channels opamp. Then FiiO uses another dual channels opamp for gain stage, followed by 2 dual for buffer. So:
 
2 dual for I/V + 1 dual for differential-to-single-ended (LPF) + 1 dual for gain + 2 dual for buffer = 6 dual
 
The last one (7th) is probably a separated dual channels buffer after the LPF for line-out.
 
Oct 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM Post #1,482 of 19,652
So far, there is nothing not to like from the FiiO X5:
 
1) Dual micro SD inputs means large capacity
 
2) I like how FiiO is aiming to make the sound signature transparent
 
3) Price may be higher than X3 but it seems reasonable given what's being offered and looking at the alternatives
 
4) The estimated March release date is abit late as I was expecting Jan but I can leave with that. Gives me more breathing room to get a new phone and laptop.
 
5) Size looks good.
 
All in all, what I'm interested in now are some measurements, battery life estimates, and how the UI works. But realistically, I will only expect that after the player is released or close to completion. 
 
Oct 28, 2013 at 10:40 PM Post #1,484 of 19,652
  +1 for that question, I also would like to know if it will be balanced headphone out?

 
I think it is very obviously not going to be any balanced headphone-out by looking at the opamp usage. To get balanced headphone, you will need 10 opamps instead of 6 (*double for everything after I/V stage).
 

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