The Fiio X5 Thread
May 26, 2014 at 3:33 AM Post #9,781 of 19,652
How to check out the file which make the X3/X5 freeze. 
 
 Pls click the link below then download the "song detection" software, then use this software to test whether there exist bad or failed songs.
 
 If you find out the music in your SD card have bad or failed songs, pls delete these songs to have a try. 

C:\Users\JAMES~1.JAM\AppData\Local\Temp\%W@GJ$ACOF(TYDYECOKVDYB.png
http://www.filedropper.com/songsdetection
 
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May 26, 2014 at 3:50 AM Post #9,783 of 19,652
You guys still haven't learned, you get on Head-Fi after the spouse goes to bed. If they ask in the morning, just tell them you were looking at porn, much easier to explain looking at that at 2 in the morning as opposed to talking with others on Head-Fi, they will never understand that.


Just fun sharing experience about Head-Fi and the other half :mad::popcorn:
 
May 26, 2014 at 4:16 AM Post #9,784 of 19,652
below is another way to check out which files make the x3 freeze. it is written by Joe blogger. 
 

1. remove the cards and do a library update (clears the database)
2. move half of the songs out of the card (e.g. half of the folders), insert the card and try the library update again.
3. if the update succeeds:
a. add half of the folders you moved out back into the card (for a total of 3/4 of the original total) and try again
if the update in (2) fails:
b. move out half of the remaining folders (for a total of 1/4 of the original total) and try again
if the update in (b) succeeds:
i. add half of the folders you moved out in (b) back into the card and try again
...

Basically the idea is to use a binary tree elimination to find song(s) or file(s) that are causing issues with the library scan.
 
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May 26, 2014 at 4:47 AM Post #9,785 of 19,652
How to check out the file which make the X3/X5 freeze. 
 
 Pls click the link below then download the "song detection" software, then use this software to test whether there exist bad or failed songs.
 
 If you find out the music in your SD card have bad or failed songs, pls delete these songs to have a try. 

http://www.filedropper.com/songsdetection

Hi James,
Is there the same type of software for a Mac?
 
May 26, 2014 at 4:53 AM Post #9,786 of 19,652
Hello
Did anybody have a positive experience withe a SSD drive connected to the X5 through OTG ??
I bought a CRUCIAl M500 (which is 480 GB). It doesn't work.
The lights of the drive blink a few seconds, then goes off.
And The X5 keeps saying at times something like "usb storage removed" (though I didn't remponve anything !).
Thanks
 
May 26, 2014 at 5:18 AM Post #9,788 of 19,652
Hello
Did anybody have a positive experience withe a SSD drive connected to the X5 through OTG ??
I bought a CRUCIAl M500 (which is 480 GB). It doesn't work.
The lights of the drive blink a few seconds, then goes off.
And The X5 keeps saying at times something like "usb storage removed" (though I didn't remponve anything !).
Thanks


Check this post by Duncan :D
http://www.head-fi.org/t/661411/fiio-x5-thread-info-updated-on-jan-17th-2014/9015#post_10534091
 
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May 26, 2014 at 6:14 AM Post #9,789 of 19,652
For me it was a matter of some of those additional files that always come along when you download some songs :p so yes i deleted them. :)


Oh I see, but most of the time is the song causing me the problem since what's have inside the folders is only cover of the album art and song itself.

How to check out the file which make the X3/X5 freeze. 
 
 Pls click the link below then download the "song detection" software, then use this software to test whether there exist bad or failed songs.
 
 If you find out the music in your SD card have bad or failed songs, pls delete these songs to have a try. 

http://www.filedropper.com/songsdetection


I just tried using it on my buggy files , to my surprised it shown a pass. That the case, I will never know which song is causing me the problem .
 
May 26, 2014 at 9:23 AM Post #9,791 of 19,652
Some brief and, no doubt, premature impressions of the X5, which I've only had for two and a half days:
 
The X5's PCM1792A DAC implementation is extraordinary - its warm and organic Line Out is very appealing to my tastes, especially when used with amps and headphones that are neutral and transparent. The DAC's great sound, in combination with the fact that it is DSD-capable, has led me to abandon my original plan of using the X5 solely as a transport for S/PDIF Coaxial Out to an external DAC.  
 
Prior to getting the X5, I had imagined using its Headphone Out only occasionally, but it's impressive as well, and I won't hesitate to use it when I want to keep my rig as small and light as possible, but... The amp section itself is on the warm side of neutral (which is fine for some headphones, certainly), but I can also hear a very slight veil of distortion - the X5 amp is not transparent (as best evidenced in the treble region, under scrutiny with the HD800), compared to using the X5 Line Out to the extremely neutral and transparent Meier Audio Corda Stepdance portable amp.  
 
This distortion in the X5 amp section is so "fine-grained" that it doesn't really bother me at all for those times when I would want to maximize portability by using the X5's Headphone Out. I'm being seriously nit-picky here, but reading the data sheet for the LMH6643 op-amp, just now, it seems (this is just my conjecture) that FiiO chose the LMH6643, in part, for its relatively high current output (75mA) in combination with its ability to operate on supply voltages as low as 2.7V, with low power consumption. Texas Instruments doesn't market the LMH6643 for use in audio applications, but overall, FiiO did pretty well, thinking outside the box to chose that op-amp and make it sound as good as it does.
 
For my tastes, though (aside from the amp's almost undetectable distortion), when using non-neutral, "colored" headphones like the Sennheiser Amperior, the X5's Headphone Out (DAC+amp) is too warm and dark, but I bet it would sound great with a bright and bass-lacking headphone like the AKG K550. Though not at all bright nor lacking in bass energy, my OPPO PM-1 is neutral enough and efficient enough to sound really great on the X5's Headphone Out. In fact, and I mean this sincerely, the X5's bassy and warm Headphone Out makes the PM-1 (and thus the forthcoming PM-2) sound a lot like my Audeze LCD-2 rev.1 does with neutral DACs and amps - a good thing, in my opinion.  When the less expensive PM-2 comes out, I can imagine a lot of people enjoying them plugged directly into the X5 Headphone Out - which, in my opinion, doesn't quite have enough power to drive the less efficient Sennheiser HD650 to their best performance.
 
Meanwhile, having tried a lot of combinations, including Coaxial Out to the DACs of a Beresford Bushmaster MkII, the CEntrance DACmini CX, and OPPO HA-1 - with various amps (including those just mentioned, plus my Schiit Vali, Stepdance and iBasso PB2 portable amps) and headphones (including the OPPO PM-1, Audeze LCD-2 rev. 1, and Sennheiser HD650), I again have to emphasize that I'm finding the X5's DAC section to be so appealing that it deserves to be heard via the Line Out.
 
Here's my favorite portable X5 chain so far, (having tried several headphones and rolling Muses 02, LME49990 and OPA1612 in my iBasso PB2 Pelican):
 
X5 Line Out > 15V-powered Meier Stepdance > OPPO PM-1
 
And for desktop use, which I haven't explored as thoroughly, the current winners are:
 
X5 Line Out > OPPO HA-1 balanced out > Sennheiser HD800 (but only for well-mastered recordings!)  
 
X5 Line Out > OPPO HA-1 balanced out > OPPO PM-1 (for any and all recordings)   
 
For reference sake, I'll add that, for the LCD-2 rev.1, I prefer the OPPO HA-1's own ESS9018 DAC, when used with the HA-1 amp, balanced out.  The LCD-2 rev.1 has enough color on its own - it doesn't need the PCM1792A's warmth, in my opinion, but the X5's DAC is just exactly what the HD800 needs, with lots of clean power inserted. The OPPO HA-1's own ESS9018 implementation is too neutral for the HD800, but again, perfect for the LCD-2 rev.1.
 
OK, so much for keeping this brief, but I have to add, that just folder-browsing, I've still not seen any X5 bugs running the 2.0 firmware (which is not what I was expecting!), and I didn't have to reformat my cards within the X5 itself and load my WAV and DSD files afresh, although I think "x RELIC x" deserves some applause for patiently emphasizing that strategy for those who have had problems with their cards.
 
The X5 is a keeper!  
 
Mike
 
May 26, 2014 at 9:35 AM Post #9,792 of 19,652
  How to check out the file which make the X3/X5 freeze. 
 
 Pls click the link below then download the "song detection" software, then use this software to test whether there exist bad or failed songs.
 
 If you find out the music in your SD card have bad or failed songs, pls delete these songs to have a try. 

C:\Users\JAMES~1.JAM\AppData\Local\Temp\%W@GJ$ACOF(TYDYECOKVDYB.png
http://www.filedropper.com/songsdetection

 
I haven't had any issues with manual update, but as a test ran the utility and it says I have 2 bad and 1 failed, but doesn't list which files are in fault, am I missing something?
 
May 26, 2014 at 9:43 AM Post #9,793 of 19,652
  Some brief and, no doubt, premature impressions of the X5, which I've only had for two and a half days:
 
The X5's PCM1792A DAC implementation is extraordinary - its warm and organic Line Out is very appealing to my tastes, especially when used with amps and headphones that are neutral and transparent. The DAC's great sound, in combination with the fact that it is DSD-capable, has led me to abandon my original plan of using the X5 solely as a transport for S/PDIF Coaxial Out to an external DAC.  
 
Prior to getting the X5, I had imagined using its Headphone Out only occasionally, but it's impressive as well, and I won't hesitate to use it when I want to keep my rig as small and light as possible, but... The amp section itself is on the warm side of neutral (which is fine for some headphones, certainly), but I can also hear a very slight veil of distortion - the X5 amp is not transparent (as best evidenced in the treble region, under scrutiny with the HD800), compared to using the X5 Line Out to the extremely neutral and transparent Meier Audio Corda Stepdance portable amp.  
 
This distortion in the X5 amp section is so "fine-grained" that it doesn't really bother me at all for those times when I would want to maximize portability by using the X5's Headphone Out. I'm being seriously nit-picky here, but reading the data sheet for the LMH6643 op-amp, just now, it seems (this is just my conjecture) that FiiO chose the LMH6643, in part, for its relatively high current output (75mA) in combination with its ability to operate on supply voltages as low as 2.7V, with low power consumption. Texas Instruments doesn't market the LMH6643 for use in audio applications, but overall, FiiO did pretty well, thinking outside the box to chose that op-amp and make it sound as good as it does.
 
For my tastes, though (aside from the amp's almost undetectable distortion), when using non-neutral, "colored" headphones like the Sennheiser Amperior, the X5's Headphone Out (DAC+amp) is too warm and dark, but I bet it would sound great with a bright and bass-lacking headphone like the AKG K550. Though not at all bright nor lacking in bass energy, my OPPO PM-1 is neutral enough and efficient enough to sound really great on the X5's Headphone Out. In fact, and I mean this sincerely, the X5's bassy and warm Headphone Out makes the PM-1 (and thus the forthcoming PM-2) sound a lot like my Audeze LCD-2 rev.1 does with neutral DACs and amps - a good thing, in my opinion.  When the less expensive PM-2 comes out, I can imagine a lot of people enjoying them plugged directly into the X5 Headphone Out - which, in my opinion, doesn't quite have enough power to drive the less efficient Sennheiser HD650 to their best performance.
 
Meanwhile, having tried a lot of combinations, including Coaxial Out to the DACs of a Beresford Bushmaster MkII, the CEntrance DACmini CX, and OPPO HA-1 - with various amps (including those just mentioned, plus my Schiit Vali, Stepdance and iBasso PB2 portable amps) and headphones (including the OPPO PM-1, Audeze LCD-2 rev. 1, and Sennheiser HD650), I again have to emphasize that I'm finding the X5's DAC section to be so appealing that it deserves to be heard via the Line Out.
 
Here's my favorite portable X5 chain so far, (having tried several headphones and rolling Muses 02, LME49990 and OPA1612 in my iBasso PB2 Pelican):
 
X5 Line Out > 15V-powered Meier Stepdance > OPPO PM-1
 
And for desktop use, which I haven't explored as thoroughly, the current winners are:
 
X5 Line Out > OPPO HA-1 balanced out > Sennheiser HD800 (but only for well-mastered recordings!)  
 
X5 Line Out > OPPO HA-1 balanced out > OPPO PM-1 (for any and all recordings)   
 
For reference sake, I'll add that, for the LCD-2 rev.1, I prefer the OPPO HA-1's own ESS9018 DAC, when used with the HA-1 amp, balanced out.  The LCD-2 rev.1 has enough color on its own - it doesn't need the PCM1792A's warmth, in my opinion, but the X5's DAC is just exactly what the HD800 needs, with lots of clean power inserted. The OPPO HA-1's own ESS9018 implementation is too neutral for the HD800, but again, perfect for the LCD-2 rev.1.
 
OK, so much for keeping this brief, but I have to add, that just folder-browsing, I've still not seen any X5 bugs running the 2.0 firmware (which is not what I was expecting!), and I didn't have to reformat my cards within the X5 itself and load my WAV and DSD files afresh, although I think "x RELIC x" deserves some applause for patiently emphasizing that strategy for those who have had problems with their cards.
 
The X5 is a keeper!  
 
Mike

 
Thanks for your impressions, I really like your setup X5 -> HA-1 -> PM-1, pricey for me but must be amazing for you. If I could afford all of those, that would be the perfect connection at home. Although not much less expensive, I might go X5 -> HA-1 -> PM2 or DX90 -> HA-1 -> PM2 or  DX50 -> HA-1 -> PM2 if I am only thinking of using the player as a transport at home. With this kind of setup, you got so many possibilities. As far as portable, the choice is also varied and with different sq and variations. Great time for portables and not so portables.
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May 26, 2014 at 10:25 AM Post #9,794 of 19,652
I can't see the point of using wav and dsd files on an an sd card.
FLAC Haas to be the way to go. The X5 converts the dsd to 88.2 pcm on the fly and in the process slows down the gui to a crawl.
It cannot handle dts compression, so the dsd files are huge (mostly ultrasonic noise). Better to convert to flac before transfer to sd card.

Swyped from my Gpad
 
May 26, 2014 at 10:28 AM Post #9,795 of 19,652
Sorry the above post is full of typos or auto corrections. Mobile app does not allow me to edit. Dts for dst is a good one...

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