The discovery thread!

[Vamp898]

I had a $50 LEC plus a $8 code from Linsoul, so ended up getting FIIO KA15 for $37.
It's a great little toy! Very clean and detailed, leaning a bit towards warmth.
It has filters that I actually hear a difference in, I usually don't. And a 10 band PEQ, so it can have any sound you want.
It doesn't get warm.
Does anyone know what FIIO's non-oversampling filter does? Is it mimicing the sound of an R2R, or is it just skipping oversampling, making it a distortion fest?
Whatever's the case, I really like the non-os filter. To my ears it sounds "less digital" than the other filters.



And the best part: Yes, the wheels spin!

I am sorry for the late reply. The CS43131 has an Non Oversampling Filter, that one simply does skip the oversampling step.

When you disabling oversampling, everything should sound more digital, not less.

When you disable oversampling, you are turning this

Into this

So you make everything sound rougher and much more digital and the soft/smooth SINE wave turns into an stepped SINE wave and hence causes distortion.

This is the Stop Band with the Fast Roll-Off Filter (Excellent Performance, <=-110db)

This is the Stop Band with the NOS Filter (At best, <=-20db)

So when you use the NOS Filter, you turn the smooth analog signal into an very rough digital signal. That means everything should sound much more digital, not less^^

 

[Ineras]

Just receive the TSMR Shock lately

Try my settings, 4.2 yellow, 3.9 brown (with value increasing counter-clockwise).
I'm waiting for more Shock/Archangel comparisons. Purple candy is still the set I enjoy the most, not sure the new Penon can top it. And if it does, by how much?
I think I'd rather save my money for a set with Shock's BCD implementation, and Sonion EST treble that's better executed than EBC80.

 

[Okcerg]

Maybe I should have used other wording, with "less digital" i meant less sterile and clean. Thanks for the info!

 

[alexandros a]

........made it finally despite my crappy routine to write/post something..........just because something different arrived my place during the last weekend..saying DIFFERENT because ORACLE MKIII truth is ................ it wouldn't had been originally my first choise as far tuning goes at least........AND THIS MAKES IT MY FIRST EVER THIEAUDIO SET anyway...................anyone know me at this forum knows i am certainly a fan of warm musicality orientated sets (mostly....) i really like dark tonality in monitors / subdued but refined and smooth treble response and this reflects for sure among my small collection......what turned my interest over this set and THIE AUDIO in general ? well is suppose their latest choise as far as bass response and overall implementation goes..cause this one (the 2024 updated MKIII version utilizes the IMPACT2 technology which also has been found on many recent THIEAUDIO IEMs,.This time THIEAUDIO goes with two 10mm dynamic drivers arranged in an isobaric design housed in a chamber....and compared to the earlier version (ORACLE MKII) this updated version utilizes a 4-way crossover system for the drivers ....This time on ORACLE MKIII the configuration goes as : 2DD+2BA+2EST ..........that's what turned my interest of over this updated 2024 ORACLE MKIII .....THE BASS OPTION .............along with many positive things people comment over the net.......when i read ISOBARIC as a term first thing came in mind was ISN H60 & PENON 10th AE .and ISN PHILOSOPHY as general approach to bass driver configurations.....Two of my highly appreciated/evaluated monitors which both take bass response/reproduction quit seriously......i am a guy who crave for bass.....QUANTITY/QUALITY wise.....and if any set coming from any Brand around the globe doesn't have it i am simply not interest to listen to it....that's my truth.....well at ORACLE MKIII's case its still a puzzle to me.....just because.............................(drums please..............)
I ACTUALLY HAVEN'T HEARD IT YET..........
(for once more cause this is a unique addiction nowdays to me leaving all the sets i get in the owen for several days.......) .............i only contacted Linsoul Audio asking for a review sample after having read a few thing here and there and then i got a positive answer from them ... and staying faith to my principles ..... have it right now for a complete burn in circle of at least 100 hours before any critical listening takes place........ESTs needs some weathering time along with dual isobaric DDs ..............Only thing i can tell right now is that as far as unboxing presentation goes its LUXURIUS 100 percent....for sure...

interchangeable cable options ala DUNU style here...........

SO SEE 'YA ALL IN A COUPLE OF DAYS ..................

 

[MD Rohit]

Hello guys! Quick update from Kinera.

Kinera is bringing an exciting refresh to one of their most popular budget IEMs — the Celest Wyvern Black.
The new version is called Wyvern Black Remaster, and it’s coming with several solid upgrades, all while keeping the same price!

Here’s what’s new:

• LCP 2.0 Dynamic Driver
• Metal nozzle for enhanced durability
• Fully upgraded acoustic chamber
• New faceplate design & colour
• Improved ergonomic shell design
• Available in both 3.5mm and 4.4mm options

And here's an exclusive sneak peek photo.

More details coming soon

 

[bixby]

Okay, while that surprised me it also gives us a better view of what you might prefer.

Sivga Que might be interesting, but I'm unsure what you mean with EW300's lack of lower mid dynamics, cause those felt pretty responsive and eager to my ears and I'm sensitive to boominess or poor low mid resolution, whereas Que is indeed a more dreamy, slow, thick, non-dynamic set, but perhaps a more natural and 'musical' one - either a pro or a con. Que also has a fair bit of pinna, which you said you're not a fan of.

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For today's work, I'm back to BGVP NS10 Pro. Bass is a bit flat (but clean), especially after listening to Prelude recently, but I enjoy the mids and treble, so as long as I pick the right tunes it's a sweet set. I'm back on Yaima - Ceremonia, such a cool chill album.

I think what I experienced with the EW300 was that for the lower mid and upper bass to have audibility of the softer levels in this area I had to turn it up. When I did that the lower treble started to be a bit too up front for me.

As for under $100 iems I have owned, the EW300 are very competitive, just not quite the tuning I am preferring in this stage of my journey. I seem to be quite drawn to planars and even the S12 Pros I sold had the kind of resolving bass I like. The Heyday is actually a half step behind in that regard. Yet the S12 Pro just was a bit prickly on too many of my tracks.

I may have to "settle" for some different tuning for my backup occasional use under $70 iem. As for moving forward on the main iem, I may have to cool my jets and see how planars and hybrids evolve given the hype around the new meta. Not even sure If I would like the new meta, but any target not like Harmon seems promising.

Thanks for your thoughts on tonal character of the Que. And you are right about the Que's pinna, even though below Harmon, still 2-3db above the heyday from 3-4k.

 

[carrots99]

Absolutely agree, CK2V is amazing! Yes, it's a matter of taste - not everyone likes such bass and treble. Yes, the resolution isn't best (P7 better), vocals would be better (when someone prefers).
BUT! The tuning, overall productivity, versatility in every genre make CK2V my most used IEM now. Especially with my best and most expensive cables via Cayin RU7 (w/ Hiby R5 II).

I have been delaying, as I am not a reviewer and time has been scarce, but need to spend some time providing my "view" (better yet, my auditory perception) of the CK2V

 

[jghjkhfd]

Kinera Celest Yaksha
(2dd+1ba+1pr, $125).
Holographic soundstage beast.

 

[Nealz]

Hello ladies & gents I present to you the ISN EBC 80, black edition.

 

[ToneDeafMonk]

........made it finally despite my crappy routine to write/post something..........just because something different arrived my place during the last weekend..saying DIFFERENT because ORACLE MKIII truth is ................ it wouldn't had been originally my first choise as far tuning goes at least........AND THIS MAKES IT MY FIRST EVER THIEAUDIO SET anyway...................anyone know me at this forum knows i am certainly a fan of warm musicality orientated sets (mostly....) i really like dark tonality in monitors / subdued but refined and smooth treble response and this reflects for sure among my small collection......what turned my interest over this set and THIE AUDIO in general ? well is suppose their latest choise as far as bass response and overall implementation goes..cause this one (the 2024 updated MKIII version utilizes the IMPACT2 technology which also has been found on many recent THIEAUDIO IEMs,.This time THIEAUDIO goes with two 10mm dynamic drivers arranged in an isobaric design housed in a chamber....and compared to the earlier version (ORACLE MKII) this updated version utilizes a 4-way crossover system for the drivers ....This time on ORACLE MKIII the configuration goes as : 2DD+2BA+2EST ..........that's what turned my interest of over this updated 2024 ORACLE MKIII .....THE BASS OPTION .............along with many positive things people comment over the net.......when i read ISOBARIC as a term first thing came in mind was ISN H60 & PENON 10th AE .and ISN PHILOSOPHY as general approach to bass driver configurations.....Two of my highly appreciated/evaluated monitors which both take bass response/reproduction quit seriously......i am a guy who crave for bass.....QUANTITY/QUALITY wise.....and if any set coming from any Brand around the globe doesn't have it i am simply not interest to listen to it....that's my truth.....well at ORACLE MKIII's case its still a puzzle to me.....just because.............................(drums please..............)
I ACTUALLY HAVEN'T HEARD IT YET..........
(for once more cause this is a unique addiction nowdays to me leaving all the sets i get in the owen for several days.......) .............i only contacted Linsoul Audio asking for a review sample after having read a few thing here and there and then i got a positive answer from them ... and staying faith to my principles ..... have it right now for a complete burn in circle of at least 100 hours before any critical listening takes place........ESTs needs some weathering time along with dual isobaric DDs ..............Only thing i can tell right now is that as far as unboxing presentation goes its LUXURIUS 100 percent....for sure...




interchangeable cable options ala DUNU style here...........



SO SEE 'YA ALL IN A COUPLE OF DAYS ..................

I don't believe the implementation is a Isobarik driver set up. It's just two drivers firing towards each other and output though a common sound tube.

 

[Discordiain]

I don't believe the implementation is a Isobarik driver set up. It's just two drivers firing towards each other and output though a common sound tube.

Source - Thieaudio website.

 

[lairpost]

What about the bass? Surely they cannot beat the RE2000 Pro Silver in terms of the bass!

No, definitely not for me. RE2000 bass is head and shoulders more quantity and equal quality. I've returned the Westone as they simply didn't bring enough to the table to differentiate them from my other sets.

Really digging the BGVP NS10 Pro with tubes. Fills out the bottom end and reduces the shimmer to just right levels for my ear.

 

[ToneDeafMonk]

Source - Thieaudio website.

Yes ThieAudio is guilty of misrepresentation of this technology and other people should educate themselves before rehashing the marketing BS.

This is not a Isobarik driver configuration unfortunately.

 

[lairpost]

An isobaric loudspeaker is a loudspeaker in which two or more identical woofers (bass drivers) operate simultaneously, with a common body of enclosed air adjoining one side of each diaphragm.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isobaric_loudspeaker

Seems to be a rather loose definition supporting many configurations.

 

[SushiiFi]

Yes ThieAudio is guilty of misrepresentation of this technology and other people should educate themselves before rehashing the marketing BS.

This is not a Isobarik driver configuration unfortunately.

I am not the biggest fan of thieaudio iem with this impact squared dd tech, apart from hype10 as it has BAs assisting the DDs to make that delicious bass. The bass that comes out of this setup sound hollow and textureless to me.