Redcarmoose
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A small glitch in the matrix, the fabric of time and reality as we know it to be true.What ?

A small glitch in the matrix, the fabric of time and reality as we know it to be true.What ?
This corner of the hobby is getting really interesting! Can’t wait to RU9. The one we tried at CJ SG apparently was still using the 1bit dac.For Tubelover, Cayin RU-9
(3199 yuan or around $450, Chinese pricing)
new Bluetooth-capable, Tube-AMP, dongle DAC,
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It loses the 1-bit ladder DAC in RU7 in favor of Dual AK4493SEQ,
it have four channel amp circuit, and QCC5125 bluetooth module (APTX and LDAC capable)
up to 1000mW in power it seems.
It felt like the upcoming BTR19 (which have tube or R2R DAC version) will have good competitor.
I CAVED! Ordered these for $118 AFTER all tax, shipping, and import fees. [AE has coupon sale now!] Fingers crossed that there's no crazy fees added later. If these are really THAT much better then Phoenixia, I'll be selling them haha. They sound... GOOD... but aren't the best fit for my ears, or sound preferences.Vzonis VP-07
VS
ivipQ Phoenixia
Comparo
Stock Cable : Phonenixia > Vzonis - The ivipQ Cable feels very premium compared to VP-07.
Stock Eartips : Vzonis = Phonenixia . They both offer same quality. Not the best. However I would consider trying 3rd party tips.
Listening with DC-Elite.
Bass : Vzonis > Phonenixia. I prefer the Bass on the VP-07 ( Not really Basshead but very well done ) . While Phonenixia is still impactful it’s the tone I love on the Vzonis and the soothing texture. The Bass on the Phonenixia is a little polite for my taste.
Mids : Vzonis > Phonenixia . I prefer the forward vocals and clarity of the VP-07. Phonenixia mids feel more balanced ( Think Centre Speaker of 5.1 surround unit )
Treble : Vzonis > Phonenixia . I prefer the overall crispiness, resolution and air on the VP-07. Phonenixia has really well defined treble and it’s definitely not sibilant , but feel I can tell the timbre sometimes has shimmer around the edges. ( Phonenixia can be source picky - but thives with TOOBs and R2R )
Soundstage : Phonenixia > Vzonis. The Phonenixia just edges out the VP-07 in stage. To my ears I feel more surrounded by the music. But the VP-07 Layers the instruments so well , and very much appreciate the soundstage on the VP-07. (More Goldilocks -Just the right amount ).
Technicalities : Vzonis > Phonenixia . I feel to my ears the VP-07 is the more technical and analytical. Phonenixia is still has nice technicalities , they are not as a resolving set to my ears
Overall I like both of these sets. But if you asked me right now if I was to blind buy just one. I’d go for the Vzonia VP-07 without a doubt.
Mild temptation today with a special notice... but I am staying strong. If these were a color that I actually LOVED, it would be MUCH harder to resist them.This one goes for anyone here needs a thorough and deep comparison between those 2 MONSTERS OF SOUND REPRODUCTION ....have spent last night listening exclusively to those two sets for more than 4 hours in order to present my findings as follows.......: (take all this with a grain of salt please.....)
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Deep Dive Comparison: PENON Archangel vs ISN Audio EBC80
Both IEMs represent the flagship evolution of their respective brands — not just in driver count, but in ambition, tuning complexity, and presentation. Where the EBC80 brought a refined warmth with strong technical chops, the Archangel seems determined to push boundaries in stage, bass articulation, and tonal neutrality, especially via its Bone Conduction + tuning switch setup and Effect Audio partnership.
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BASS – Textured Authority vs Musical Weight
- PENON Archangel: The bass is the immediate showstopper — deep-reaching, physical, and viscerally textured. The use of a coaxial PET + Carbon Nanotube dynamic driver coupled with Bone Conduction Drivers (BCD) results in an unapologetically immersive low-end. Sub-bass is felt as much as it is heard, with BCDs adding resonance and body that gives kicks and low synths a tactile thump without mid-bass bleed. Even compared to ISN's bass-forward tuning, Archangel delivers more authority, more impact, and more finesse — a remarkable achievement for a Penon set.
- ISN EBC80: EBC80 also impresses with a full-bodied, rich low-end, but it leans more into mid-bass bloom and warmth, lacking the sub-bass layering and separation dynamics of Archangel. Its BCD is implemented smoothly, but less viscerally, with a more musical bass character than technical bass control.
Winner : Archangel, clearly — more physical, more layered, more technically articulate bass response.
MIDRANGE – Dead Neutral Clarity vs Engaging Warmth
- PENON Archangel: This is not your typical Penon midrange. It’s far more neutral, linear, and uncolored — a refreshing shift for the brand. Vocals emerge clean, dry, and spatially placed, rather than lush or romantic. Instruments appear well-proportioned and unexaggerated, allowing the stage and layering to shine without midrange saturation. For listeners accustomed to Penon’s usual mid-forward lushness (like in the 10th AE), this tuning offers a studio-monitor clarity, revealing the mix rather than romanticizing it.
- ISN EBC80: More in line with the traditional musical mid-centric tuning, EBC80 delivers a warmer, smoother, and slightly colored midrange. Vocals feel more emotional, more forward, with a touch of analog richness. Instruments have that golden glow, which flatters physical timbres but may lack the neutral presentation and depth layering of Archangel.
Winner : Archangel for neutral, accurate mids with elite layering; EBC80 for lush, engaging mids with emotional warmth.
TREBLE – Airy Sophistication vs Smooth Politeness
- PENON Archangel: The treble is beautifully extended yet silky, with detail retrieval that’s “insane” as you rightly put it. It’s never grainy, never metallic, and fully avoids fatigue. Lower and upper treble are rendered organically, without forced sparkle. The tuning switch also allows you to dial in a touch more energy if needed — a useful feature for adapting to darker sources. Oracle MKIII fans will appreciate the air and brilliance present here, but the natural timbre is the key differentiator.
- ISN EBC80: Treble is gentle, refined, and well-integrated, but less extended and less illuminated compared to Archangel. EST implementation here is focused on smoothness and forgiveness, ideal for long listening sessions, but lacking that airy dimension and micro-detail shimmer that Archangel pulls off effortlessly.
Winner : Archangel, for combining treble resolution + texture with fatigue-free presentation — rare at any price.
SOUNDSTAGE & IMAGING – Gigantic Precision vs Controlled Spaciousness
- PENON Archangel: The true star of the show. The spatial performance is jaw-dropping — front/back, top/bottom, left/right — everything unfolds with dimension, holography, and placement accuracy that surpasses most hybrid/tribrid sets, even at double the price. The BCDs add a tactile layer to spatial boundaries, increasing note weight and realism. You don't just hear instruments — you feel their proximity, distance, and placement in space. This is next-level stage construction.
- ISN EBC80: Also performs admirably here, offering a wide and reasonably deep stage with good left/right spread and layering. Imaging is strong, but not as vertically structured or spatially immersive as Archangel. EBC80 focuses more on cohesion and warmth than dissecting placement.
Winner : Archangel — easily one of the best soundstage/imaging performers under $1,000.
TECHNICAL PERFORMANCE – Detail, Layering, Dynamics
- PENON Archangel: Offers flagship-tier detail retrieval, astounding separation, and effortless layering, especially across dense mixes and acoustic recordings. Macro-dynamics are explosive when needed, while microdynamics remain fluid and expressive. It’s the most resolving Penon IEM to date, and one of the few that can pull off neutrality without losing musicality.
- ISN EBC80: Technically strong, but more focused on emotional engagement than raw performance. Resolution and detail are good, but not “sharp-edged” — layering is clean, though not three-dimensional in the same way Archangel presents.
Winner : Archangel — more refined, more spacious, more precise.
Feature PENON Archangel ISN EBC80 Bass Deep, visceral, textured (BCD+DD synergy) Warm, impactful, musical Midrange Dead neutral, layered, accurate Smooth, romantic, emotionally engaging Treble Extended, detailed, fatigue-free Smooth, forgiving, slightly darkened Soundstage Huge, 3D, vertical & horizontal layering Spacious, but flatter and less holographic Imaging Precise, holographic, immersive Clean but more conventional Technicals Flagship-level resolution and layering Strong for its price, more musical Build & Accessories High-end resin shell, Cadmus II cable Solid shell, decent accessories Tuning Flexibility Bass & Treble switches None Best For Stage-focused critical listening, acoustic, ambient, orchestral Vocals, jazz, indie, relaxed music
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Final Verdict
PENON Archangel is Penon’s most mature, technically gifted, and spacious-sounding release to date. It manages to merge uncolored neutrality, explosive low-end energy, and expansive staging in a way that few IEMs — even above its price point — can achieve. The EBC80, by contrast, offers musical warmth, colored midrange magic, and smooth, engaging tonality, making it more intimate and emotionally immediate.
If you're after absolute detail retrieval, stage grandeur, and a clean neutral presentation, Archangel is your IEM
If you want lush mids, smooth highs, and rich musicality, EBC80 still holds its ground beautifully.
Both are standouts — but in different sonic worlds.
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................And this is exactly how much i appreciate PENON's newest set these days...........Archangelic sound that's what this really is........![]()
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Update: RE2000 Pro silver build and QC is absolutely perfect. No glue or gaps. The fit is good to very good for me. They weigh next to nothing. I've not tried the cable or tips. Both appear to be junk. The sound is very well executed neutral and extended for my ears. A definite keeper at $180. No way was it worth $1500 or $800 or anything more than $200, for me. But the single DD in these is quite good and it's easy to forget about the technicals and simply get lost in the music. The unicorn spit coating on the driver seems to have some magic in it.I happened upon the RE2000 Pro Silver somewhere in my web travels. Just ordered today, $180 with their open-box special. I hope they've resolved the poor assembly/QC. I've seen some reviews with glue and misaligned joints...shameful at what they originally asked for them. But it's Hifiman...no one buys their stuff until it's heavily marked down months after the hype has fizzled, right?
Did you take a train to reach there?
I am fully back, was in this city for a while. Busan S, Korea. If you haven't been it is absolutely fantastic place to visit, especially if your a sea food fan. I was using the Archangel for the entire trip. Vacationing with the Archangel was a blast.
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Train to Busan?Did you take a train to reach there?
Train to Busan?
Na took a large Bus with extra large recliners. We thought about taking their speed strain but our family of 4 ended up costing a bit much which we would rather spend on food instead. Bus ride ended up being fantastic though.