Sep 24, 2022 at 10:03 AM Post #65,161 of 150,729
Yep, KBEAR's house tuning is generally V shaped/mid-bass heavy pseudo basshead tuning.
Absolutely, I agree that heavy mid-bass pseudo basshead, is their regular tuning. However, if the tuning on the Little Q is anything to go by (as they both use a 6mm driver, which are probably the same drivers) KBear may be more measured in the bass department on the Dumplings......but what a hilarious name! 😂

They are good looking though.
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 4:51 AM Post #65,162 of 150,729
Some more info trickled in about the Akoustyx S6.

Drivers are reportedly 6.1mm (source: https://www.soundstageglobal.com/in...ocal-2022-irvine-usa/1029-cjsc-2022-earphones).

Super* Review has a squiglink entry (https://squig.link/?share=Crinacle_Neutral_Target,Akoustyx_S-6), that is more than a little inconsistent with my impressions so far. 20dB swing from 800Hz to 3k? That's... wild. Kinda wondering whether they measured with an ety-deep insertion, cause that did produce an oddly scooped impression for me too initially. Would be good to see Akoustyx's own measurement with the intended fit... Anyway, take my impressions about the tuning with a grain of salt I guess.
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 4:59 AM Post #65,163 of 150,729
Some more info trickled in about the Akoustyx S6.

Drivers are reportedly 6.1mm (source: https://www.soundstageglobal.com/in...ocal-2022-irvine-usa/1029-cjsc-2022-earphones).

Super* Review has a squiglink entry (https://squig.link/?share=Crinacle_Neutral_Target,Akoustyx_S-6), that is more than a little inconsistent with my impressions so far. 20dB swing from 800Hz to 3k? That's... wild. Kinda wondering whether they measured with an ety-deep insertion, cause that did produce an oddly scooped impression for me too initially. Would be good to see Akoustyx's own measurement with the intended fit... Anyway, take my impressions about the tuning with a grain of salt I guess.
Those are the type of measurements that look good at first glance but are actually not.
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 6:14 AM Post #65,164 of 150,729
I just got the Truthear x Crinacle Zero I ordered a week ago..
As I wanted some comfort, with a good seal and allow insert as deep as possible the drivers in my ear canal, I did some tips rolling and found the best for my ears was the Spiral Dot SF Silicone. I can insert deeply the drivers in my ear canal, very comfortable and the sound doesn't change when my head is moving when I lay down on a cushion..

Till I tried those, I was thinking that I was in the 65% of the people who enjoy a pure Harman target response curve..
The Truthear Zero are probably very near a perfect Harman target frequency response. But I don't know exactly why, though they are enjoyable and quite amazing for 50€ (like a dream 5 to 10 years ago), I fell the low frequencies are in this case a bit "too" muddy for my taste, some mid-high/high frequencies are maybe missing some details and makes the male voice maybe a bit too much in the background than I am used to it.
For 50€ it's amazing how good they are ... I was not imagining such situation in 2022, though I am missing a balanced cable and some better tips.

Then, there are still some margin for higher-end IEMs (I compared the Truthear Zero with IE600/900 and VE EXT), though, for many, the sound quality improvement can't probably justify to spend 10x to 50x more euros in that game (that's another story)..
 
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Sep 25, 2022 at 8:10 AM Post #65,165 of 150,729
My Celest Gumiho Frequency graph
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Sep 25, 2022 at 8:21 AM Post #65,166 of 150,729
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Grab the right gear and a sherpa to tackle that 8K peak. :mountain_snow:
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 8:41 AM Post #65,167 of 150,729
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I dont know :)
Conaider running power/impedance frequency sweep. It can be instrutive to use in combination with the audio measurements to reveal idiosyncrasies of the coupler, damping of the drivers, and acoustic filters.

What is your impression on bass/low-mid resolution of Celest?
 
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Sep 25, 2022 at 9:01 AM Post #65,170 of 150,729
What is your impression on bass/low-mid resolution of Celest?
Good, like a DD driver, but the speed is a little faster and the dynamics are felt. I won’t say that it’s close in sound to large(14.x mm) planars, but there is something similar. :)
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 9:02 AM Post #65,171 of 150,729
Sep 25, 2022 at 9:36 AM Post #65,173 of 150,729
I figure that might also interest some people here:
PROblemdetected posted some details that he found of FB about the Kinera Gumiho driver, which might explain why KZ's representative is being annoyed by it.
It does not excuse his behaviour, and I actually find their version of planar interesting, as the results are quite good (but different) than the planars drivers we had up until now.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/kinera-qoa-discussion-thread.964627/page-2#post-17161876
After all, and even if it's not "like" the other planars, it is still a planar, albeit using a different technology and giving different results.
My guess is that it might give other companies some ideas for cheap and frankly quite good drivers for the price.
 
Sep 25, 2022 at 9:59 AM Post #65,174 of 150,729
Good, like a DD driver, but the speed is a little faster and the dynamics are felt. I won’t say that it’s close in sound to large(14.x mm) planars, but there is something similar. :)
I had very positive initial impressions of Celest that I shared.
Then I started to think what is its main limitation/bottleneck - and to me that would be the impact and resolution in the lows/mids. The range is definitely there with sub-bass, the response is quite fast/agile, and I like this agility. Yet, when I compare with the BA bass (KZ ASX or AST, for instance), I can hear so much more with BAs: e.g. texture, and dynamics of drums.

One of my thoughts was that I may still not drive this 9-Ohm IEM properly (?)

Then I got more tempted to look what's inside, how the SPD works, but I was almost sure that someone already does it, and that was just posted by @Ceilidh, thank you!

Now it makes more sense: the agility and the range is there with the SPD, but it should be harder to produce the dynamics and resolution given the inertia of more moving mass.

I really like the BA in Celest (and it is a really smart move to combine a BA with the SPD to compensate for a good part of the resolution*); and still overall, Gumiho is at the top of sub-$50 range for me by overall likeable sound signature, its unique characteristics, and overall package.

* addition on editing


P. S. I hope KZ will make a mighty planar-BA hybrid one day, especially if they feel challenged with Kinera :)
 
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