PhonoPhi
Headphoneus Supremus
Several points to make in one post, hopefully for a shorter message, touching on Dioko, AS16 pro and KZ in general, and a HeadFi engagement factor.
1. Dioko. I am a bit surprised not to see more discussions. From my earier posted impressions, I worked to learn more and to appreciate the tuning and planars, and I feel that I got a lot out of it.
Dioko will serve as my good reference for "extreme U" with its lean bass and spiky last octave.
Most important discovery that came through my experience with Dioko and I would like to share - that the last octave (8 to 16 kHz) where Dioko has a quite strong peak works differently for different recordings.
Specifically, for electronically produced music - this last octave can sound very engaging and revealing and to bring the shimmer and impression of "layering".
Not so for accoustically recorded music peoduced with real microphones.
Well, some clasical (older) recording of music (including "golden audiophiles" ones, as I learned in Science forum) have almost nothing above 8 kHz to avoid hiss and often tapered above 4 kHz. For those recordings, no information - no difference.
Yet, for acoustic recordings done through space properly (and experiencing all the real-life limitations) and with the higher treble perfectly preserved, it was a revelation to hear overemphasized hiss, including in the voice tracks of Chesky disks, so Dioko peaks at 10+ kHz prominently do not work, while again doing a good (or amazing) job for most electronically recorded music.
2. KZ AS16 pro. Perhaps, tuning with a higher impedance was a blessing for warmer more engaging sound profile that departed further from the drier and more revealing original AS16. I am happy that it worked well for KZ. I am still very much amazed at the price. The original AS16 were above $100, and I was ready to buy pro at this price as a unconditional KZ fan. Well, perhaps AS16 pro can become the real "price butcher".
What I would like to point out that AS16 pro is not any random hit for KZ, but the logical development based on AS16 (most of the drivers are the same, etc) and also BA10 were close 3+ years ago (and if you are ready to work with equalizers and use revealing sources, AST are great).
Yet, to make this point again: the "KZ drama" or " history" was largely in the hyped minds of drama makers. All drivers were connected, it was clearly (though quietly) acknowledged that the measurements fuelling the hype cannot serve as an evidence. Some of those contributing to the hype (in my subjective impression) are now using 40-50 Ohm resistors to BAs, learning from KZ, I guess... (Prior to this, there were claims that those drivers "doing nothing").
3. HeadFi is an amazing and unique place, and grabs a lot of time and money. While the latter I can readonably manage, the time becomes too much for me, and I knew I have to take some break rather than trying to make and to test different IEMs with a variable balance impedance adapter (I had all the parts) and getting other IEMs. My last three: ESX, Dioko and AS16 pro were all very nice experience, so I will try my best just to stay contained and restrained
1. Dioko. I am a bit surprised not to see more discussions. From my earier posted impressions, I worked to learn more and to appreciate the tuning and planars, and I feel that I got a lot out of it.
Dioko will serve as my good reference for "extreme U" with its lean bass and spiky last octave.
Most important discovery that came through my experience with Dioko and I would like to share - that the last octave (8 to 16 kHz) where Dioko has a quite strong peak works differently for different recordings.
Specifically, for electronically produced music - this last octave can sound very engaging and revealing and to bring the shimmer and impression of "layering".
Not so for accoustically recorded music peoduced with real microphones.
Well, some clasical (older) recording of music (including "golden audiophiles" ones, as I learned in Science forum) have almost nothing above 8 kHz to avoid hiss and often tapered above 4 kHz. For those recordings, no information - no difference.
Yet, for acoustic recordings done through space properly (and experiencing all the real-life limitations) and with the higher treble perfectly preserved, it was a revelation to hear overemphasized hiss, including in the voice tracks of Chesky disks, so Dioko peaks at 10+ kHz prominently do not work, while again doing a good (or amazing) job for most electronically recorded music.
2. KZ AS16 pro. Perhaps, tuning with a higher impedance was a blessing for warmer more engaging sound profile that departed further from the drier and more revealing original AS16. I am happy that it worked well for KZ. I am still very much amazed at the price. The original AS16 were above $100, and I was ready to buy pro at this price as a unconditional KZ fan. Well, perhaps AS16 pro can become the real "price butcher".
What I would like to point out that AS16 pro is not any random hit for KZ, but the logical development based on AS16 (most of the drivers are the same, etc) and also BA10 were close 3+ years ago (and if you are ready to work with equalizers and use revealing sources, AST are great).
Yet, to make this point again: the "KZ drama" or " history" was largely in the hyped minds of drama makers. All drivers were connected, it was clearly (though quietly) acknowledged that the measurements fuelling the hype cannot serve as an evidence. Some of those contributing to the hype (in my subjective impression) are now using 40-50 Ohm resistors to BAs, learning from KZ, I guess... (Prior to this, there were claims that those drivers "doing nothing").
3. HeadFi is an amazing and unique place, and grabs a lot of time and money. While the latter I can readonably manage, the time becomes too much for me, and I knew I have to take some break rather than trying to make and to test different IEMs with a variable balance impedance adapter (I had all the parts) and getting other IEMs. My last three: ESX, Dioko and AS16 pro were all very nice experience, so I will try my best just to stay contained and restrained
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