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May 25, 2022 at 2:14 PM Post #63,016 of 99,943
Some new releases!!!



1)
Moondrop Kuro Neko TWS

Means "Black Cat" in Japanese



https://www.facebook.com/MoondropLab/posts/1195023597924268

Well the last TWS from them, the Nekocake was kinda meh, hope this black cat turns out to be a luckier cat!




2) This week's KZ release, the KZ ESX



https://www.facebook.com/KZEarphones/posts/1437223876708714

Their motto is to seek the truth. Does that mean someone is gonna open their drivers/housing again to seek the truth? Anyways, in all probability, a Pro or Ultra or Max version of this KZ may very well be available next week, so hold on to your horses first?
ESX already listed on Aliexpress here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004325335816.html
Crack-shaped is one way to describe it.
 
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May 25, 2022 at 5:04 PM Post #63,017 of 99,943
Would it be another KZ sub-brand?
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aliexpress.com/store/1100379081?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000007.1.44e46beajdiCi2
 
May 25, 2022 at 5:10 PM Post #63,019 of 99,943
Would it be another KZ sub-brand?
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aliexpress.com/store/1100379081?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000007.1.44e46beajdiCi2
Looks a bit like the TRN BAX.
 
May 25, 2022 at 10:00 PM Post #63,022 of 99,943
On budget note,

KZ EDX Ultra ($20, 1DD)
https://www.kztws.com/products/kz-edx-ultra

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Graph from practiphile in discord

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Xerus-kun Quick impression on it, (from discord)
EDX Ultra Quickies

- Good tonality and timbre, almost the same as CRA+

- Has a wow factor due to the wide and tall soundstage
- Lush and well weighted vocals same as CRA+. Very good weight and clarity with male and female vocals
- Well separated instruments
- Tighter bass than CRA+
- Airy and well controlled treble
- Think of CRA+ but with boosted upper treble and tighter bass
- Average detail retrieval
- There's no harshness at all.
- Super detailed cymbals and instruments overtones
- Very good all rounder if you are not sensitive to the upper treble
- Theres no 8kHz peak!!

Meh Section
- The upper treble is giving me headache..like I just can't listen to this IEM for a long period of time.
- Cymbals are too detailed like too detailed, its not pleasant sounding at all.
- Vocals are well separated on the soundstage but aren't that lush and detailed compared to EDA.
- It feels like there's some hollowness like the fundamentals has a significant distance from the harmonics, harmonics are just too forward, it is somehow veiling the midrange.
- Soundstage lack depth
- It does not sound good with some Yorushika tracks (e.g Hibernation)
- Not good for Toho Bossa Nova, too much overtones, it's forced into you instead of you noticing it subtlety.

For now, EDA Balanced > CRA+ > EDA Hires > EDX Ultra Practiphile is correct it is very colored sounding compared to EDA, it does not have the realness that the EDA has, some folks may like the coloration some folks will not, unfortunately I'm in the later
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May 25, 2022 at 10:10 PM Post #63,023 of 99,943
Also, their 10th anniversary IEM

KZ ESX
($18 [promo discount], 1DD, 12mm Liquid Crystal Diaphragm
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Graph based on their promo image, fixed ratio by Jansvant

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To note, this seems to be close to EDA High Res which considered by several reviewer to be close to Moondrop Chu.
So, if this true, this is LCP DD, removable cable, KZ-take on Moondrop Chu.
 
May 25, 2022 at 11:11 PM Post #63,024 of 99,943
Wow! That is saying something for a phone to match a desktop setup!

Shame LG got out of the phone business.
I've lately stopped using some of my daps as my V60 sounds so good, with more portability and better battery life, and more music storage (have a 1tb card in it). And with the dual screen, can use one screen as the music player and keep doing things on other phone screen. LG had some good hardware tech, too bad they didn't sell enough to want to stay in phone business. 😢
 
May 26, 2022 at 12:17 AM Post #63,025 of 99,943
Would it be another KZ sub-brand?
hello, no, this brand based on TRN but with other DD, i have a two model of this brand and will getting all other :)
in this stiore you can get a good coupon.

FT1 model == TRN MTE
Liberty Z1 == TRM MT1 Pro
 
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May 26, 2022 at 1:17 AM Post #63,026 of 99,943
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May 26, 2022 at 1:49 AM Post #63,027 of 99,943
Just took a listen to the Dune album. Definitely not a fan of this kinda spooky music but definitely sound very cinematic like in a theater with the BAX.
Got my TA1 Pro and listening to the spooky Dune OST again. My brief impression is I don't know is there anything about it I need to complain especially at this price. I usually prefer more harmonish tuning but the bass here is pretty nice. I wonder if there will be better treble separation after burn in but even OOTB it sounds pretty great and it doesn't sound like a semi-openback to me! Oh and I like the metal shell and I will not buy any resin shell anymore (except 3D printed ones like the Variations, and comon KZ, stop making IEMs with those shells.)

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May 26, 2022 at 1:58 AM Post #63,028 of 99,943
The Tin Hifi P1 Max 'Giant Panda' arrived yesterday. Only had a brief listen and there is that unmistakable/but I'm not sure how best to describe planar sound! - I listened to a female vocal / acoustic track (Julia Jacklin - Body) and such beautiful timbre, really good mids and an overall effortless and natural delivery - might not have enough sub bass depth for my taste/library in general, and treble a bit less emphasised versus Timeless... just to note on that, I don't have a problem really with Timeless treble, just an initial observation. A lot more testing to do but I'm impressed so far.

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May 26, 2022 at 2:49 AM Post #63,029 of 99,943
Also, their 10th anniversary IEM

KZ ESX
($18 [promo discount], 1DD, 12mm Liquid Crystal Diaphragm


Graph based on their promo image, fixed ratio by Jansvant



To note, this seems to be close to EDA High Res which considered by several reviewer to be close to Moondrop Chu.
So, if this true, this is LCP DD, removable cable, KZ-take on Moondrop Chu.
Okay, I admit that my main problems with the CRA+ were the same cheap construction and the doubled price. This one is a larger DD with a slightly thicker LCP diaphragm (still pretty thin at 5microns, so it should be reasonably quick). I presume the 7kHz peak is just coupler resonance. FR graph rolls off in the treble, but not too extreme (lets be honest at my age, anything over 15kHz is just a line on a graph). I am assuming their "10th anniversary model", will have had some priority in their "Lets not f#@k up the tuning" department. First LCP release, the tech is well proven and does offer advantages. It's being released at the same time as as other up-tuned models like the EDA and EDX Max/pro/ultra/whatever, which are looking good so far. Cost is less than the CRA+ and looks more premium with a metal faceplate. It lacks a metal nozzle, but that's all I can grizzle about.

Fingers crossed, I might have to buy this on spec! :L3000:
 
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May 26, 2022 at 3:35 PM Post #63,030 of 99,943
The Tin Hifi P1 Max 'Giant Panda' arrived yesterday. Only had a brief listen and there is that unmistakable/but I'm not sure how best to describe planar sound! - I listened to a female vocal / acoustic track (Julia Jacklin - Body) and such beautiful timbre, really good mids and an overall effortless and natural delivery - might not have enough sub bass depth for my taste/library in general, and treble a bit less emphasised versus Timeless... just to note on that, I don't have a problem really with Timeless treble, just an initial observation. A lot more testing to do but I'm impressed so far.

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That one took me a while to warm up to, but it happened, burn in helps dramatically!
 

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