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May 10, 2019 at 2:24 PM Post #42,286 of 100,605
I have a little more than 100 hours on my F3's and they are improving all the time

Burn-in goes faster with a few pints.

Play more notes! :ksc75smile:
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Try "Hundreds of Thousands", from the Tony MacAlpine album Maximum Security (1987) -
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EDIT: Fixed misspelling of Tony's last name.
 
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May 10, 2019 at 2:45 PM Post #42,287 of 100,605
Play more notes! :ksc75smile:
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Try "Hundreds of Thousands", from the Tony McAlpine album Maximum Security (1987) -
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Take a frequency of 10 kHz...in 5 seconds, the membrane has moved 50,000 times. That results in 360,0000000 membrane movements [=360 Mio] in 100 days.

I hope the sound is really coming along and not going away with so much permanent use :wink:

Now I need a pint.

P.S. who is Tony McAlpine? The guy noodles like crazy on his lead guitar - and not in a bad way. Will have to check him out.
 
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May 10, 2019 at 4:32 PM Post #42,289 of 100,605
Take a frequency of 10 kHz...in 5 seconds, the membrane has moved 50,000 times. That results in 360,0000000 membrane movements [=360 Mio] in 100 days.

I hope the sound is really coming along and not going away with so much permanent use :wink:

Now I need a pint.

P.S. who is Tony McAlpine? The guy noodles like crazy on his lead guitar - and not in a bad way. Will have to check him out.

Back in the late '80s, I worked with a young guy who was a guitar player, in the style of Tony MacAlpine.
He had a Competition winning Car Stereo system, and played some of this album for me.
I then went out and bought Maximum Security, and Tony's first album, Edge of Insanity.
Other than listening to YouTube videos, I haven't heard any of his other albums.
Trivia Note: Tony is a classically trained pianist (from the age of 5), who took up guitar playing at 12.
 
May 10, 2019 at 5:48 PM Post #42,291 of 100,605
I'd like to assess the timbre: how does chamber music sound etc.
i was listening only to Vivaldi The Four Seasons [DVD-A] 96-24, they sound the best with that kind of music, with jazz also, old rock, everything with real instruments, also the Nirvana unplugged album sound amazing with them
 
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May 10, 2019 at 5:54 PM Post #42,293 of 100,605
May 10, 2019 at 6:03 PM Post #42,294 of 100,605
Very nice review with some excellent pics ,
are these easy to drive or power hungry like KP and can you please explain the position of singer in the presentation ( the singer feels infront of you or more on the backside of the head ) ,??
Thank you, they are easier to drive compared to KP, the positioning of the singer is highly dependent of the recording, but most of the time is in front but not like a narrow point but wide powerful vocal range
 
May 10, 2019 at 6:37 PM Post #42,295 of 100,605
My F3 arrived today and judging from the FR curve, it better sound better than it plots.

NiceHcK F3.jpg
 
May 10, 2019 at 7:03 PM Post #42,296 of 100,605
I received the Tanchjim Oxygen yesterday.
I've listened to them for a few hours. First impressions are very positive. Clean, fast and airy. Highly resolving, revealing of poorly recorded material.
Graphs and comparisons below:
Tanchjim Oxygen

Tanchjim Oxygen vs Simgot EM1

Tanchjim Oxygen vs Nicehck M6 (aka BGVP DMG)


As always, my measurements were conducted with a Dayton iMM-6 microphone using a vinyl tubing coupler and a calibrated USB sound interface. There is a resonance peak between 7-10k. The measurements are presented with 1/24th smoothing and without compensation. Measurements above 10k are not reliable.
My review of the Simgot EM1 will be up on Head-Fi and my blog this weekend.
Didn’t know m6 is a dmg. Cool
 
May 10, 2019 at 8:30 PM Post #42,297 of 100,605
My F3 arrived today and judging from the FR curve, it better sound better than it plots.

I'll say. That looks horrific. I've come across a couple of IEMs that measured similarly due to the venting system which is altered once they're in your ears. Hope for the sake of the F3 it's one of those.
 
May 10, 2019 at 11:03 PM Post #42,298 of 100,605
My F3 arrived today and judging from the FR curve, it better sound better than it plots.

I recommend tilting the diagram clockwise by 20 degrees so that the frequency axis is not horizontal anymore. Nobody says the frequency axis has to be horizontal. As they say: "symmetry is the aesthetics of the bourgeoisie".

Now the graph looks smashing and the earphone sounds slightly darker.

Alternatively, if you cannot tilt the diagram, tilt your head forward by 20 degrees to achieve the same result :wink:.

NiceHcK_F3.jpeg
 
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May 10, 2019 at 11:38 PM Post #42,299 of 100,605
Interesting hybrid iem. I wonder what kind of DAP you use?.is F3 hard to drive?. Is F3 benefit amplification?

No, but the extra power of my Rag helps. I dont think the Planar is used in the lows, so power requirements not as demanding.
 
May 11, 2019 at 2:32 AM Post #42,300 of 100,605
New IEM's with great specs is released, everyone wants it but just a few order, first person(s) get it and put up a glowing review after a full day or two of ownership and everyone who didn't dare to order originally place their orders, other early adapters stars to get them and graphs pop up, now everyone who wait for their pair get super anxious, the big mass receives their IEM's and 50% loves them while the other 50% doesn't care for them, three months later no one uses the IEM's anymore. The story of Head-fi :wink:
 

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