Mar 25, 2025 at 2:16 PM Post #148,006 of 152,111
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Using Sivga Que at work today. Que continues to impress me, such a fun, musical and spacious sound. Warm with lots of midbass without being boomy.
i have a news 😜 sivga Que 2 or a new version of Que is coming soon
 
Mar 25, 2025 at 2:37 PM Post #148,007 of 152,111
Hey everyone, Whats the deal with this Anniversary sale? The prices just dont make any sense to me. Some of what Ive seen.

KZ Saga. $1.40 w Free Shipping from the KZ Store / Aliexpress Choice
KZ Libra X, CCA Polaris, etc.. .99 cents w Free Shipping from multiple Stores with good ratings
Pennon Liquoer Tips .99 cents from The Penon Store
Kbear 16 Core Copper Cable .99 cents w Free Shipping with Aliexpress Choice
Jcally JA3 CX31993 Dongle .99 cents from Good Sound Store / Choice
Etc, Etc, Etc

I tried searching Headfi to see if this has been talked about as Im sure it has, been came up short. Can anyone explain why Aliexpress would sell these things at a seeming loss. It seems too good to be true and yet these are from official stores. Is it possible they're unloading bad example / b stock items with less performance? Im ready to buy a bunch of stuff but it seems too good to be true.
 
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Mar 25, 2025 at 2:53 PM Post #148,008 of 152,111
Hi, Im sorry for the delay in response. Ive got chronic health issues that get worse when winter really hits, and then even replying to a thread seems hard. Its getting warmer and feeling much better thankfully.

It turned out I needed to spend money elsewhere, so still havent purchased an EDC Pro upgrade. For any others reading this, a while back I was looking for a direct upgrade for my EDC Pro's in the 20-30 dollar range. Something with the same great tuning, just taking performance up a notch. I got some good replies which Ill mention here. And FreeWheelin-Your experience with AS10s is really helpful and sheds light onto how all these IEMs compare. Thanks so much! Also, Im just now seeing your rec for KZ Libra X... so its better than KZ Saga?

KZ Saga Balanced- Almost identical tuning with a higher performance overall. This gets extremely enthusiastic reviews, with one guy who owns tons of IEMs prefering it to the Kefine Delci and the Sivga Que. Heres a surprising quote of his. " It can fully compete with the ew200, and it can compete with other more expensive 1dd models like kefine delci, sivga que.....The saga is slightly ahead of the regular version of the delci in detail, separation, and musicality" Im not sure if he got a lottery pair with exceptional channell matching or what, but this seems like a total winner.

Sgor Luna- Very high bang for buck planar with a tuning quite similar to EDC Pro. Needs JM6 Pro powered dongle minimum, some would say Fiio KA11 for getting the performance out of it.

Celest Wyvern Black

Kefine Klean- Ill add this as its on sale foe 33 right now during the anniversary sale. This graphs extremely close to my mind.
https://pw.squig.link/?share=KZ_EDC_Pro,Kefine_Klean_Black
Hope you are felling better first and foremost....

The Libra X IMHO is indeed better than the KZ Saga balanced. The KZ Saga is warmer and has more mid bass slam, but that's where the advantage (?) ends. The Libra X has a cleaner, clearer, and more technical midrange. Now with the added warmth of the Saga, there's a weightier aspect to the midrange notes, but the detail retrieval is cloudier. Sounstage has a vast feel, with better spatial cues and separation with the Libra X. Bass notes are more resolving, and quicker. Snappier, but mid bass is less pronounced, with rumble and sub bass being same ball park. Treble is where they really diverge. Libra X has much more extension, air, and shimmer/crispness. The Saga has a more polite, but natural tonality. Libra X can get you on the verge of stridency, but it's never truly strident, but side by side with the Saga (or the Zenith), the treble would come across as such, since the Saga has very polite and more naturally tuned treble, but there's less air or crispness (but it's not rolled off).

Klean is a clear and present upgrade in all ways to the EDC Pro minus the mid bass presence, as the Klean is NOT a bassy set. Bass is quite linear and clean.
 
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Mar 25, 2025 at 3:24 PM Post #148,009 of 152,111
Hope you are felling better first and foremost....

The Libra X IMHO is indeed better than the KZ Saga balanced. The KZ Saga is warmer and has more mid bass slam, but that's where the advantage (?) ends. The Libra X has a cleaner, clearer, and more technical midrange. Now with the added warmth of the Saga, there's a weightier aspect to the midrange notes, but the detail retrieval is cloudier. Sounstage has a vast feel, with better spatial cues and separation with the Libra X. Bass notes are more resolving, and quicker. Snappier, but mid bass is less pronounced, with rumble and sub bass being same ball park. Treble is where they really diverge. Libra X has much more extension, air, and shimmer/crispness. The Saga has a more polite, but natural tonality. Libra X can get you on the verge of stridency, but it's never truly strident, but side by side with the Saga (or the Zenith), the treble would come across as such, since the Saga has very polite and more naturally tuned treble, but there's less air or crispness (but it's not rolled off).

Klean is a clear and present upgrade in all ways to the EDC Pro minus the mid bass presence, as the Klean is NOT a bassy set. Bass is quite linear and clean.
I pretty much agree with this… although I culled the Libra X as I preferred the TFZ T2 Pro and Tangzu YuXuanJi for treble-head sets. Saga is very good but Zenith I think is an upgrade. ZVX Pro if you want a more detailed, dynamic sound. Klean is also very good (tested with hole punch mod) but I prefer the ZVZ Pro.
 
Mar 25, 2025 at 3:25 PM Post #148,010 of 152,111
My review of Campfire Audio Astrolith is published, had this for a good time now. Been in a stressful time lately, and its been nice to come home and listen to Astrolith.

A flagship dual-planar for those who crave energetic warm sound that is fast and technical, exceptionally fun with electronica and metal.
It has been highly addictive and has made a none planar person like me converted, I also want to thank @CFA Chris for the review opportunity.

Can read the full review in the link, cheers.

REVIEW HERE

 
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Mar 25, 2025 at 3:46 PM Post #148,011 of 152,111
Hey everyone, Whats the deal with this Anniversary sale? The prices just dont make any sense to me. Some of what Ive seen.

KZ Saga. $1.40 w Free Shipping from the KZ Store / Aliexpress Choice
KZ Libra X, CCA Polaris, etc.. .99 cents w Free Shipping from multiple Stores with good ratings
Pennon Liquoer Tips .99 cents from The Penon Store
Kbear 16 Core Copper Cable .99 cents w Free Shipping with Aliexpress Choice
Jcally JA3 CX31993 Dongle .99 cents from Good Sound Store / Choice
Etc, Etc, Etc

I tried searching Headfi to see if this has been talked about as Im sure it has, been came up short. Can anyone explain why Aliexpress would sell these things at a seeming loss. It seems too good to be true and yet these are from official stores. Is it possible they're unloading bad example / b stock items with less performance? Im ready to buy a bunch of stuff but it seems too good to be true.
I have no idea where you are seeing those prices, because the cheapest I'm getting is $5.00 from the CUKOF store, and some stores selling the original Libra balanced and hi res as the Libra X (not the same thing at all). Saga is $10.00 from the KZ Store. So what you might be looking at is the Alix Business/Choice listing, which can have really cheap listings, but you have to have a business acct (like @Ineras does), or it's one of those buy three/buy now gimmicks? But regular/Choice, these are the prices being listed.

Libra X.png
Saga.png


@jbfps116 - Well, I got the ZVX incoming, and the Klean making it's way back to me, so my brotha, I'll be putting your ears to the test to see if it's a more exciting Klean?
 
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Mar 25, 2025 at 3:50 PM Post #148,012 of 152,111
Yes this make sense just ordered the penon fan 3 with the space cable, and next on the list is the Isn H60. But do you get any discomfort when using the penon fan 3 or the h60 in your ear canals because of the nozzle size?
I read here that someone had that problem.
My Penon Fan 3 fit me very well. I have fairly big ear holes!
I dislike any limited product and Jay said that it is just a side grade of Hype 4, so I'm more interested to Daybreak which is cheaper and widely available.
Yeah, limited products are designed only to create artificial scarcity, which is odd considering Crin is perhaps the most well-known and perhaps respected "name" in the IEM world. I find it impossible to believe he'll surrender the profit of another run after selling out 500 in less than an hour. That's fiscally dumb.

As for Jay, trusting his compromised opinion on anything would be like running a condom through a sewing machine with just the needle popping up and down into the latex and saying, "Don't worry, she won't get pregnant."
Kefine Klean- Ill add this as its on sale foe 33 right now during the anniversary sale. This graphs extremely close to my mind.
https://pw.squig.link/?share=KZ_EDC_Pro,Kefine_Klean_Black
Agree with @FreeWheelinAudioLuv2: The Klean is an ideal name for this model. It's clean and balanced throughout the frequencies. Really clean. Some may call it boring. I do not. It's a damn good IEM for $50.
 
Mar 25, 2025 at 3:52 PM Post #148,013 of 152,111
1: Jomo Nautilus
2: ISN H60

3: Pula PA02
4: Penon Fan 3
5: Kiwi Ears Aether

6: Zhewuyusheng Audio Trinity
7: KZ ZS12 Pro X
8: KZ ZVX Pro
9: Simgot EW300
10: Apple AirPods Pro 2

11: Tanzgu XuanNv
12: Tiandirenhe TD08 Pro Odin
13: KB Ear KB02
14: ISN H20
15: QKZ ZXD

16: Tangzu YuXuanJi
17: TFZ T2 Pro
18: Tangzu Wan'er SE
19: Tiandirenhe TD20
20: Tangzu ZeTianWu
21: QKZ ZXN

22: KZ Zenith
23: Tangzu Wan'er
24: HzSound White Snow
25: KZ ZS6
Nice list.
I'm gonna do Top 26 ranking list.
No KZ/QKZ/CCA on my list:

1. Hifiman RE2000.
2. Fir Audio Neon 4.
3. Fir Audio Krypton 5.
4. Sound Rhyme SR8.
5. Tansio Mirai Shock.
6. Shanling ME600.
7. Aful Performer 5+2.
8. Sound Rhyme SP01.
9. Penon Fan 3.
10. Trifecta/Trinity.
11. Ziigaat Odyssey.
12. Tangzu Gate.
13. ISN H60.
14. BQEYZ Autumn.
15. NiceHCK Himalaya.
16. Fiio FH7/FH3.
17. Oriveti OD200.
18. Ikko OH10.
19. Blon BL03.
20. Raphsodio Orla.
21. Pula Anvil114.
22. Kinera Celest Relentless.
23. Ibasso IT00.
24. Unique Melody MK3.
25. Unique Melody MK1.
26. ISN H20
Kiwi Ears Punch and SLT6 would be on the list once i receive them (not sure about DTE500).
EW300, Aether, YU9 Yan not in the list because i need 4.4 cable for them to get the full potential from them.
Kbear KB02 are also not on the list because i think the H20 are better iems.
Sound Rhyme SR7, BQEYZ Wind, Dusk, CK2V, IKKO OH7, Letshuoer S12 Pro would be ranked between 27th and 32th place.
Everything else that i have that is ranked below 32th place is trash.
H20 and Unique Melody, enjoy being on the list until the Punch and SLT6 gonna arrive.
Btw, i received the airoso but i need to give them more time before i will decide if they deserve to be in my top 26 list.
I already can say that i like the airoso more than the aether.
 
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Mar 25, 2025 at 3:57 PM Post #148,014 of 152,111
I have no idea where you are seeing those prices, because the cheapest I'm getting is $5.00 from the CUKOF store, and some stores selling the original Libra balanced and hi res as the Libra X (not the same thing at all). Saga is $10.00 from the KZ Store. So what you might be looking at is the Alix Business/Choice listing, which can have really cheap listings, but you have to have a business acct (like @Ineras does), or it's one of those buy three/buy now gimmicks? But regular/Choice, these are the prices being listed.

Libra X.pngSaga.png
I do wonder if this sale is the quiet before the storm for at least some of us.
 
Mar 25, 2025 at 4:17 PM Post #148,015 of 152,111
Hey everyone, Whats the deal with this Anniversary sale? The prices just dont make any sense to me. Some of what Ive seen.

KZ Saga. $1.40 w Free Shipping from the KZ Store / Aliexpress Choice
KZ Libra X, CCA Polaris, etc.. .99 cents w Free Shipping from multiple Stores with good ratings
Pennon Liquoer Tips .99 cents from The Penon Store
Kbear 16 Core Copper Cable .99 cents w Free Shipping with Aliexpress Choice
Jcally JA3 CX31993 Dongle .99 cents from Good Sound Store / Choice
Etc, Etc, Etc

I tried searching Headfi to see if this has been talked about as Im sure it has, been came up short. Can anyone explain why Aliexpress would sell these things at a seeming loss. It seems too good to be true and yet these are from official stores. Is it possible they're unloading bad example / b stock items with less performance? Im ready to buy a bunch of stuff but it seems too good to be true.

Check you aren't getting a discount coupon or code applied. Sometimes the price goes back up after the next purchase.
 
Mar 25, 2025 at 4:29 PM Post #148,017 of 152,111
My Penon Fan 3 fit me very well. I have fairly big ear holes!

Yeah, limited products are designed only to create artificial scarcity, which is odd considering Crin is perhaps the most well-known and perhaps respected "name" in the IEM world. I find it impossible to believe he'll surrender the profit of another run after selling out 500 in less than an hour. That's fiscally dumb.

As for Jay, trusting his compromised opinion on anything would be like running a condom through a sewing machine with just the needle popping up and down into the latex and saying, "Don't worry, she won't get pregnant."

Agree with @FreeWheelinAudioLuv2: The Klean is an ideal name for this model. It's clean and balanced throughout the frequencies. Really clean. Some may call it boring. I do not. It's a damn good IEM for $50.
Don't you worry. Crin already stated in his introduction video he has 499 more waiting to be sold if the initial 500 trends positively. Well, selling out in 40 minutes is as much a definitive positive trend as one can get in this business, so get your wallet ready to unleash $249.00 for one of the next sets of 499!!
I do wonder if this sale is the quiet before the storm for at least some of us.
Oh this is indeed the quiet alright. The next "big" sale is the Easter sale, but in just under 3 months, we will dive head first into the BIGGER Summer Sale, where the $100 and $50 LEC codes for Linsoul are released, Amazon is included in the sales, and Alix releases those $9, $15, $25, and $100 sitewide coupons to go along with the crazy store coupons, while XINHS and ivipQ release their twitter coupons selling $200 cables for $20.00, like it happened the last two years. The Summer Sale has only one equal, and that's 11.11, so yes, the storm hasn't hit yet...so enjoy the quiet (of your pocketbook). Mine has not been quiet in the least.
 
Mar 25, 2025 at 4:30 PM Post #148,018 of 152,111
Hey everyone, Whats the deal with this Anniversary sale? The prices just dont make any sense to me. Some of what Ive seen.

KZ Saga. $1.40 w Free Shipping from the KZ Store / Aliexpress Choice
KZ Libra X, CCA Polaris, etc.. .99 cents w Free Shipping from multiple Stores with good ratings
Pennon Liquoer Tips .99 cents from The Penon Store
Kbear 16 Core Copper Cable .99 cents w Free Shipping with Aliexpress Choice
Jcally JA3 CX31993 Dongle .99 cents from Good Sound Store / Choice
Etc, Etc, Etc

I tried searching Headfi to see if this has been talked about as Im sure it has, been came up short. Can anyone explain why Aliexpress would sell these things at a seeming loss. It seems too good to be true and yet these are from official stores. Is it possible they're unloading bad example / b stock items with less performance? Im ready to buy a bunch of stuff but it seems too good to be true.
Are you a new user on AliExpress? If so, it makes sense
If not, teach me your skills 😅
 
Mar 25, 2025 at 4:31 PM Post #148,019 of 152,111
Don't you worry. Crin already stated in his introduction video he has 499 more waiting to be sold if the initial 500 trends positively. Well, selling out in 40 minutes is as much a definitive positive trend as one can get in this business, so get your wallet ready to unleash $249.00 for one of the next sets of 499!!

Oh this is indeed the quiet alright. The next "big" sale is the Easter sale, but in just under 3 months, we will dive head first into the BIGGER Summer Sale, where the $100 and $50 LEC codes for Linsoul are released, Amazon is included in the sales, and Alix releases those $9, $15, $25, and $100 sitewide coupons to go along with the crazy store coupons, while XINHS and ivipQ release their twitter coupons selling $200 cables for $20.00, like it happened the last two years. The Summer Sale has only one equal, and that's 11.11, so yes, the storm hasn't hit yet...so enjoy the quiet (of your pocketbook). Mine has not been quiet in the least.
I saw the best prices on a few iems this time, including the Tea Pro and Splendor 2. The coupons may not have been as good as a collective, but the prices of the products were lower in some cases.
 
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Mar 25, 2025 at 4:38 PM Post #148,020 of 152,111
I got in touch with Shenzhen and they offered me a pretty nice discount on the Volume S. Got it for 280$.
 

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