Jan 10, 2025 at 12:49 PM Post #141,196 of 152,815
I sold ST7 so… (but I alsk sold Trio, another of his favorites, so…)
If you think Libra X is better than Saga, you HAVE. GOT to try ZVX pro.

I almost want to rebuy the ST7 … but skillfully tuned?? I thought the mids had an odd tonality. And i wanted more bass if i remember right. Unless I just never found the right cable?

I wonder if the Cantor would be a perfect companion to the Nautilus in that price range for me? I’m worried I’d want more bass though. How does it compare to the Orchestra Lite?
There is absolutely in no way and in no form a comparison to the OL, my friend. The Cantor is like definitively 10 steps above the OL. Let's start with whatever mechanism magic the Cantor has where you have 14 BA's stuffed in that smallish shell (for 14 BA!!), and you get almost zero pressure build up. Yes. it's ever so slight due to the deep insertion, but it's hardly noticeable. The OL has major pressure build up, and yes, some folks are "immune" to it, but most normal folks feel it and feel it good. Secondly, there3's godly amounts of air, shimmer and texture in the treble region of the Cantor, vs a rolled off safe treble with the OL, and no, it's no peek a boo style treble like the Explorer. It's just safe and lacks air and sparkle. The mids are cleaner, clearer, and have miles more layering and spatial cues in the Cantor, and let me admit, the mids are very good on the OL. Forward, with a degree of incisiveness, but the Cantor take it a league or two beyond their capability, and then, the albatross in the room. most folks already admit the bass, and especially the sub bass of the OL is rolled off. The bass on the Cantor, while generally lacking energy and impact in the mid bass (but just in comparison to IEMs with DD bass), still produces a really nice, punchy, snappy, elastic bass with sufficient rumble when called upon, as well as incisiveness, speed, resolution, and punch. The bass on the OL is decent in the mid bass punch, but it's more of a lumbering Clydesdale vs a thoroughbred. Also, stage and imaging go to the Cantor all day and all night. Now keep in mind this is $800 vs $240, but it's not just a matter of price difference, put tuning and performance difference that's noticeable.

There's no tonal issues with the ST7, nor is there any bass deficiencies with the dual DD (ok, yes, there's a sub bass roll off, but it's not like it's severely rolled off, it's just rolled off, but if you throw Dominic Eulberg - Avichrom (my test album for bass (both sub and mid bass) and treble incisiveness, at the ST7, it acquits itself rather nicely in the bass region. Now is it boomy or pervasive? No, but the charm of the ST7 is it's balance and orbital stage. No excess across the board, with a nice warm tilt. I also have the XINHS S06 cable strapped to it and have for 6 months or so? I originally bought the cable for my Project M (I think? Went through so many IEMs and cables since this summer, it's hard to keep track), but it ended up being perfect synergy with my TRN ST7, which I just got done listening to yesterday right after the AFUL Cantor and the Elysian Pilgrim, and I didn't flinch at it. Speaks volumes.

Bass is very good on the Cantor. Now no self respecting basshead or bass connoisseur is gonna lay their hat on the Cantor, and that's real speak, but aside from that group of fiends, the bass on the Cantor is sufficient to keep you satisfied in the bass region, while delivering punch and rumble when it's present in the track, while letting you hear every individual note that's in the mix. It's not lacking, but there's no excess, if you follow? It's supremely balanced, clear, nuanced, layered, and tilted towards bright and detailed in the upper mids and treble, and detailed and punchy/snappy in the low end as far as overall sound IMHO.
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 12:54 PM Post #141,197 of 152,815
They're the herd. We're the outliers.
Unfortunately.
☝️ This. It's so easy to forget when you're here and surrounded by other like-minded people that we are all absolutely not mainstream.
Yeah.

Nothing new to me: it is a very rare case when I am not an outlier. I wrote about that (see last section).

Being in a group I felt I belong to happened before: with board games (about 20 people, the "hard seed" as we say in Hungarian); within IT (but not so many times) and here in the disco thread. I am alone with my thinking but it is very normal to me: I grew up without knowing the meaning of trust; never had a friend until I got 19 and lived in a dormitory and studied at a university. I still have less than 5 people I could call a close friend (counting my whole life).

We live very differently even with the same hobby.
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 12:56 PM Post #141,198 of 152,815
Hey y'all, I've been out of the loop with portable DAC/amps for a bit, what's a good performing dongle in the 25-50 USD range? Currently I'd only use it for 3.5mm ended IEMs (I have KZ AS24), and I don't really care about balanced, but it would be a bonus if it can drive some hungrier over ears down the road too.
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 12:58 PM Post #141,199 of 152,815
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Had a listen to the Softears VolumeS and compared them with the Drain Buns and the Cantor. Added in the IE600 as a bonus. It's like listening to levels of resolution across different price points.

Tuning wise I prefer the VolumeS which in low impedance mode has nice punchy bass. Tonality is beautiful. I love the Drain Buns though I find it to be a bit thin for my liking. Still there's something special about it. Tried it with the Deuce's impedance adaptors but didn't like it that much. Might be better with a different one so if I PTT this, that's what I'll look for. Cantor's resolution is simply better than these 2 but it tuning wise I would prefer more lower frequency presence. It's there when called for but my personal preference is something with more warmth and bass. Anyone else think its tuning is very similar to the Performer 8?

The IE600 doesn't have the resolution of the DB and the Cantor but it's better than the VolumeS.
Oh no! The IE600 more resolution than the Volume S?! My friend, that's worrisome, unless it's just that your ears are more complimentary to the IE600 than mine, because I've owned two sets of the IE600, and it's definitely NOT on of the more resolving single DD sets on the planet, despite it's overinflated price. To me the strengths of the IE600 are in it's textured and tonally beautiful treble and the snappy and incisive bass, but the midrange resolution and incisiveness are....average at best.
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 1:00 PM Post #141,200 of 152,815
Man as much as i love the Cantor, Annie has a special place in my heart. :frowning2:
I'm so excited to have the Anni 2023 in my ears soon. Yes, that's happening and I'll finally get the opportunity to be among those who get that treble experience. As a treble connoisseur, this will be like getting an hour at Spagos with Wolfgang Puck in the kitchen. My audio life has never been more bright and sunshiny!
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 1:05 PM Post #141,201 of 152,815
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Are you serious yet this year?

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/det...-dac-amp-discussion-impression-thread.975231/

This is the giant killer Amp/DAC of the year so far. The thread that has been created for the Dethonray Clarinet has been blowing-up. The dedicated thread has 8 pages of impressions already since December 18th, 2024. Many are reporting the USB to be great, but optical and coaxial being even better. Many years ago I found this out too with a DAC, so I believe them. And this surprise comes at the point of being basically uniformly agreed upon, everyone agrees this is so. Which is a rare, very rare phenomena on Head-Fi! :)

There is a case for it, it looks like too!

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https://www.linsoul.com/products/dethonray-clarinet

High-Voltage Customized Power System
Clarinet utilizes a specialized high-voltage power system to ensure high-fidelity audio while maintaining separation between digital and analog power sources. This eliminates circuit noise, delivering a clean, transparent sound with minimal background noise. It easily drives headphones ranging from 10 ohms/120dB IEMs to 300 ohms/102dB headphones, showcasing versatility across various devices.

AK4493S DAC for Exceptional Sound Quality
At the heart of Clarinet's audio performance is the AKM AK4493S DAC chip from the VELVET SOUND series. This premium chip delivers outstanding musicality and precise detail restoration, allowing you to experience sound as if you're at a live performance.

Multiple Inputs for Versatile Connectivity
Clarinet offers USB, Optical, and Coaxial inputs, providing the flexibility to connect to various devices such as CD players, game consoles, and more. The AK4118A professional-grade chip ensures a balanced analog output free from digital artifacts, maintaining a pure, natural sound across all frequencies.

Dual USB-C Ports
Two independent USB-C ports allow for charging and data transfer simultaneously, eliminating battery life concerns when on the go. The device can also be connected directly to a portable power bank, providing continuous audio enjoyment.

All-Aluminum Alloy Design
The CNC-machined aluminum alloy casing effectively absorbs external electromagnetic interference and boasts excellent heat dissipation properties. This reduces internal component temperatures, improving product reliability and performance.

Precision Volume Control
The volume knob is the central interface, featuring advanced Touch & Feel software algorithms that eliminate channel bias issues typical of traditional analog volume potentiometers. This ensures smooth and reliable volume adjustment.

Customizable Sound Output
Clarinet's firmware allows you to customize the sound signature for different IEMs and headphones, whether they use dynamic, planar, or balanced armature drivers. This flexibility ensures an optimal listening experience tailored to your preferences.

Versatile Usage Scenarios
The Clarinet can be used with a variety of devices, including mobile phones, DAPs, TVs, CD players, computers, cars, speakers, and amplifiers.

Technical Details
Inputs USB, Coaxial, Optical
Outputs 3.5mm Single-ended, 4.4mm Balanced
Support DSD64/128/256, PCM 16Bit/44.1KHz - 32Bit/384KHz
Compatibility Android, iOS, Windows, Linux
Frequency Response 20Hz - 20kHz
THD 0.03%
SNR 114dB
Max Power Output: Single-ended: 2.0Vrms (32Ω)Balanced: 2.0Vrms (32Ω)
DAC Chip AKM4493S
Chassis CNC Aluminum Alloy
Dimensions 137 x 70 x 19 mm
Weight 162g
Battery Life Up to 7 hours
Charging 5V 2A / 3 hours
Battery Capacity 1600mAh
Inside the Box
  • 1 x Dethonray Clarinet
  • User Manual
Pretty cool, and a good price for such a good amp.
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 1:06 PM Post #141,202 of 152,815
I listened to them separately so my memory might be a bit fuzzy. But what I clearly recall is the Prismatica has a more dynamic, energetic and fun tuning. More bass presence too. It's quite a technical set too but I can't tell you whether it's superior in that area to the Cantor without A/B.
Thanks for the feedback! Your description of the Primatica is similar to my experience with them.
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 1:11 PM Post #141,203 of 152,815
But, yeah, I think it's really important to get the opportunity to try them out before you fully discount or write off some higher end sets.

Someone needed coffee this morning 😜

In all seriousness great post and the highlighted quote above is very important. Easy to knock something before you try it.
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 1:20 PM Post #141,204 of 152,815
Or the Performer(2^3)-1.
I appreciate and find value in your entire post - this was my favorite part though, literally made me smile. :beerchug:
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 1:21 PM Post #141,205 of 152,815
I think I need something to counter balance the detail monster that is the Cantor. Something more relaxed with a little more bass. Something to compliment the Cantor.
Elysian Pilgrim Noir
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 1:22 PM Post #141,206 of 152,815
I'm so excited to have the Anni 2023 in my ears soon. Yes, that's happening and I'll finally get the opportunity to be among those who get that treble experience. As a treble connoisseur, this will be like getting an hour at Spagos with Wolfgang Puck in the kitchen. My audio life has never been more bright and sunshiny!

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Coming to you soon my man. Dropped them off with @Sebastien Chiu yesterday. Special shout out to the awesome @emdeevee for allowing me to listen to his Penon Rival for a few days. Rival is really good.
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 1:31 PM Post #141,207 of 152,815
Nice! It's only 9999 dollars! Deal of the Century, I'll probably buy 2. HA!
Absolute steal. I’m ordering them as we speak.

Bass is very good on the Cantor. Now no self respecting basshead or bass connoisseur is gonna lay their hat on the Cantor, and that's real speak, but aside from that group of fiends, the bass on the Cantor is sufficient to keep you satisfied in the bass region, while delivering punch and rumble when it's present in the track, while letting you hear every individual note that's in the mix. It's not lacking, but there's no excess, if you follow? It's supremely balanced, clear, nuanced, layered, and tilted towards bright and detailed in the upper mids and treble, and detailed and punchy/snappy in the low end as far as overall sound IMHO.
Spot on description.

I personally consider a “basshead” someone who loves a lot of bass quantity, and a “bass lover” someone who loves good bass quality. In that respect, it’s awesome for bass lovers, but not bassheads.

I assume by “impact” you mean a strong physical sensation you get from the bass? Well, yeah, it would be unfair to expect a ton of that from BAs. The Cantor still has a nice physical sensation, just not like a DD, which is fine. IMO, if you want huge physicality in the bass, get speakers. They blow every IEM on the planet out of the water in that respect. It’s not really what IEMs are for, in my opinion.
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 1:31 PM Post #141,208 of 152,815
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I tried the prototype at CanJam SoCal and it was good, however there was obvious BA timbre so I wonder if they have fixed it yet. I'm most excited for the Serenade though and they also had a flagship prototype.
 
Jan 10, 2025 at 1:35 PM Post #141,209 of 152,815
Jan 10, 2025 at 1:39 PM Post #141,210 of 152,815
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Letshuoer C12 was quite good in terms of resolution and clarity. I hope this one is good as well.
 

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