Sep 15, 2024 at 4:59 PM Post #123,541 of 152,515
the fact that the first IEM we usually listen to during the day—or after a long period of not listening to music—ends up usually being the reference point for all the other listening we’ll do during the session
I'm not sure I could apply it to my own experience. But it associates with another experience: the more earbud models are in rotation - the more our ears get adaptability to different sounding. I would say, our sound brain becomes more tolerant to different sounding. Or more variable is acceptance.

Probably burn-in effect you are saying about depends on rotation frequency - is it few days or few hours.

(to clarify, I'm not a collector, 3-5 pair are sufficient, I guess, plus a single one for outdoor)
 
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I've got a very exciting six months ahead of me. I'll finally be able to do some reviews.

There are a couple of albums I hold dear to my heart but the vocals were recorded just a tad too close to the mic causing the voice to be too forward with a hint of glare. Two iems that took that glare away were the Nightjar Singularity and the Meze Advar which will be arriving within those six months. That's a £1800 investment.

Both iems have their faults but I love the way vocals come across on them.
Both dynamic driver iems.

This month, I have the Fii0 FH19 coming. My first FiiO iem. Happy times.
Enjoy all of those IEMS! Sweet purchases!
 
Sep 15, 2024 at 5:48 PM Post #123,546 of 152,515
I'm not sure I could apply it to my own experience. But it associates with another experience: the more earbud models are in rotation - the more our ears get adaptability to different sounding. I would say, our sound brain becomes more tolerant to different sounding. Or more variable is acceptance.

Probably burn-in effect you are saying about depends on rotation frequency - is it few days or few hours.

(to clarify, I'm not a collector, 3-5 pair are sufficient, I guess, plus a single one for outdoor)

From where I'm at, I'm buying headphones, iems, DACs, amps etc to bring to life the recordings that mean the most to me in life. Back in the 70s when I grew up, we didn't have the exceptional SQ that we have now.

Now I want to hear that amazing music with excellent imaging, layering and soundstage. I want to lose myself and be immersed in sound which to me as a musician is a kind of nirvana.

I have my listening room set up with a mini planetarium rotating on my ceiling and those planet lamps from Amazon glowing - and I sit in the darkness and listen to this:

And I'm in bliss...I feel like I'm floating in the galaxy and sounds are like planets and stars and gas clouds forming and moving around me. Weightless and voyaging through space...
 

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Sep 15, 2024 at 5:54 PM Post #123,548 of 152,515
I've got a very exciting six months ahead of me. I'll finally be able to do some reviews.

There are a couple of albums I hold dear to my heart but the vocals were recorded just a tad too close to the mic causing the voice to be too forward with a hint of glare. Two iems that took that glare away were the Nightjar Singularity and the Meze Advar which will be arriving within those six months. That's a £1800 investment.

Both iems have their faults but I love the way vocals come across on them.
Both dynamic driver iems.

This month, I have the Fii0 FH19 coming. My first FiiO iem. Happy times.
Can't wait to hear what you think about the fiio FH19.
I have fiio FH3 (in my top 10 list) and Fiio JD7 (very close to the top 10) and like them both.
I may buy the FH19 next year because this year I'm buying the Shock (this week), ISN H60 (already purchased), Dunu davinci (11.11) and ziigaat estrella (11.11).
 
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Sep 15, 2024 at 6:20 PM Post #123,551 of 152,515
The Unreliability of Sound Memory in IEMs Comparisons and Evaluations

How often do you change your opinion on an IEM over time? And how frequently do you change it again? Personally, if I were to create a list of the best IEMs I own, I believe the positions on that list would be rearranged quite often. Ultimately, what does this question lead me to?

The first and most important point I want to address is memory, particularly the ‘memory of sound.’ When I listen to an IEM, especially during comparisons for reviews (but not exclusively), I tend to unconsciously focus on aspects that could be improved in its sound presentation (e.g., perhaps I feel it lacks some bass impact) while simultaneously thinking about other IEMs that I remember excelling in that particular aspect. The issue with this practice stems from the belief that memory is not very reliable in recalling things as volatile and complex as sound. We usually assume it does fine, and therefore, the vast majority of our comparisons and evaluations are based on it. But how fine and accurate can memory really be in relation to something as complex and multilayered as sound in music?

(Here, I really wanted to incorporate many other concepts into the discussion, especially the fact that the first IEM we usually listen to during the day—or after a long period of not listening to music—ends up usually being the reference point for all the other listening we’ll do during the session. But for the sake of conciseness and clarity, I will limit my argument to the ‘memory’ aspect, even though I feel that combining the two could potentially lead to a more exhaustive analysis).

Back to us: direct comparisons are undoubtedly a good method for conducting proper evaluations. However, brain burn-in constitutes the greatest barrier to this method being truly fault proof. Since the vast majority of our listening time is post brain burn-in (aside from the first minute or so needed for brain burn-in to occur), so when doing a comparison, it becomes necessary to wait some time to ‘disaccustom’ from the brain burn-in of the previous session in order to conduct a somewhat unadulterated evaluation of another IEM. The problem? The more time passes, the more we “forget” (lose the feel of) how the previous IEM actually sounded.

Therefore, the new IEM will always end up being compared to a "distorted" (for better or worse) version of the previous IEM. This could work in its favor or against it, with no way to tell for sure. I feel that the reasons that will advocate the superiority of one IEM over the other are as likely to be casual as objective. I believe this is the case because when making comparisons, we tend to test A vs. B on how they perform on a particular track, then proceed to another. However, sometimes, out of mere curiosity, I tend to do A vs. B / B vs. A on the same song, which can (though not always) leads to partial to sometimes substantial differences between my first and second findings. I would even say it’s not rare at all that after a first comparison I think I have a clear winner, but after the second one, I end up questioning where all that certainty was coming from to begin with. Now, would you agree that if I hadn't done this second comparison in the first place, I would've remained with a strong opinion that apparently would've been only "partially" true? This is obviously my personal experience, and I don’t know if any of you have experienced this phenomenon as recurrently as I have, but nevertheless, I think it was worth mentioning for the sake of the argument.

A potential alternative method would be comparing IEMs very quickly, even before brain burn-in takes place. However, I feel this is too short a time frame to properly evaluate an IEM, and I also feel the differences in sound between IEMs at a pre-brain burn-in stage are overly emphasized compared to post burn-in (which, again, constitutes the absolute majority of our listening experience).

To conclude and return to the initial point, we often base our evaluations of IEMs on comparisons. Since I truly believe there can be no "superiority" without comparisons. And, as I mentioned, I believe the memory of sound, with all its flaws, often plays a considerable role in the equation and actively conditions our conclusions. I would also like to point out that this phenomenon is only one of the many variables that condition our listening experience as a whole, and it need to be considered alongside the like of many other physical, psychological, and practical ones that actively affect both our listening experience and the conclusions we draw from it. However, in my view, I consider it a significant one, nonetheless. Ultimately, what do you think about it?

Honestly, I just wanted to share these thoughts with you all, since I was in withdrawal from my usual unnecessary ramblings! Also, as always, I’m really glad I have such a friendly place to share them! Hope you find it somehow interesting. 😄

The trick I do is to listen to one aspect at a time, and swap track, and focus on the next aspect. This is only when I hone in and try to really “score” an IEM. One can never be too precise here, thus I use 5 bands rather than 100 bands.

I have one heuristic: if I have to repeat a comparison again and again, with more and more care, because I’m doubting my take, those IEMs are quite closed, or the result is against my belief somehow.

Most of the time, it’s quite straightforward, actually. Vast majority of IEMs that I have tested do decent macro detail, so so separation, so so micro detail, “eh” to so so dynamic (both macro and micro), with okay tuning. It's like the normal curve of IEM performance distributes around the Blessing 2.

One point to add: you can ask yourself "what is an IEM? what is it for? what's the point?" it's not philosophising, but it gives clarity to what it means by "superior" to you and thus what scale to use. If the point is "soulful", then all comparison, price, tech, are meaningless, since no engineer can optimise a product to be soulful for everyone. I see IEMs like a professional “screen” to “see” audio content, so my ideal IEM must be like 4K 240Hz HDR screen with professional calibration. That, I think, can be engineered.
 
Sep 15, 2024 at 6:24 PM Post #123,552 of 152,515
Tripowin makes a $40.00 mixed cable (it's thin) that's efffin da bomb!! Love that cable, and I've bought 3 so far.

Is that the gray pinkish 16 core Jelly cable?

Edit: I saw in another post you meant the Zoe cable. I wonder how good the Jelly one is. Love the look.
 
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