Hm, Aure are very well balanced to my ears with a wonderful W shape, however there isn't too much treble extension, so I guess that's what you're after.
Treble on Ascension is Amazing, but it's very source-picky and ESTs
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Treble on Ascension is Amazing, but it's very source-picky and ESTs
Working slowly on my Oriveti OH700VB review, what a set. Been a weird journey also, since it has much less pina gain raise than what I'm used to it took time to adjust.
At first it almost felt a little lacklustre, but as of now I truly love it. Maybe also since its rather unique in my collection. Feed it normal acoustic music with switch up and its a natural sounding but engaging IEM, then flip it down and you get something close to basshead experience that's separated from the mids.
#subwoofer like bass
#rich vocals
#relaxed upper mids
#well extended highs and air
#large and unique stage
#special shell design
At first it almost felt a little lacklustre, but as of now I truly love it. Maybe also since its rather unique in my collection. Feed it normal acoustic music with switch up and its a natural sounding but engaging IEM, then flip it down and you get something close to basshead experience that's separated from the mids.
#subwoofer like bass
#rich vocals
#relaxed upper mids
#well extended highs and air
#large and unique stage
#special shell design
Evening all - just in case anyone is interested, popped up a review of the recent Spirit Torino dual-DD IEMs (the Twin Pulse Beryllium). Hope you're all good!
https://audioprimate.blog/2023/09/2...em-so-good-they-designed-it-twice/#more-11081
https://audioprimate.blog/2023/09/2...em-so-good-they-designed-it-twice/#more-11081
FreeWheelinAudioLuv2
Headphoneus Supremus
REVELATORY! ***ATTENTION THOSE WITH BIG EAR HOLES***
On the recommendation of @Dsnuts , I purchased three pairs of XL Penon Liqueur Silicone Eartips. Now i'm almost positive that Penon meant to to call these lacquer and not liqueur, as they have an almost lacquered sheen on them, but these olive style tips have a tack on them that helps with a grip and seal very reminiscent of the Azla Xelestecs, but without that weird and unfortunate warping that ultimately affects the Azlas. They are tacky and they run BIG, so if you have canyon like ear holes, or like me, have a wonky ear canal, these are truly revelatory for a firm fit and seal. These are like what if you took JVC Spiral Dots and slapped a sticky lacquer on them?
Sonically, they define the bass, and give it some heft and definition, while retaining stage due to the fairly wide bore, but at the same time providing some taming of the top end without sacrificing too much air (maybe just a tad?), but with the EW200, EA1000, or Wu Zetian, this is an absolutely welcomed sonic effect. I can only imagine slapping these on the TSMR X? It should really take them to new heights? Now these aren't staying on the EW200, but going on the OD200 to assist in improving the fit, due to the short nozzles on the OD200. So until I can order some more, and I'll probably order 2 more sets of 3, they will sit firm on my OD200, EA1000, and Wu Zetian. Thanks for the heads up, DS. These will become my new favorite tips, along with the spiral dots, and pair with most of my IEMS!
They come in black and orange. I got the blacks.
On the recommendation of @Dsnuts , I purchased three pairs of XL Penon Liqueur Silicone Eartips. Now i'm almost positive that Penon meant to to call these lacquer and not liqueur, as they have an almost lacquered sheen on them, but these olive style tips have a tack on them that helps with a grip and seal very reminiscent of the Azla Xelestecs, but without that weird and unfortunate warping that ultimately affects the Azlas. They are tacky and they run BIG, so if you have canyon like ear holes, or like me, have a wonky ear canal, these are truly revelatory for a firm fit and seal. These are like what if you took JVC Spiral Dots and slapped a sticky lacquer on them?
Sonically, they define the bass, and give it some heft and definition, while retaining stage due to the fairly wide bore, but at the same time providing some taming of the top end without sacrificing too much air (maybe just a tad?), but with the EW200, EA1000, or Wu Zetian, this is an absolutely welcomed sonic effect. I can only imagine slapping these on the TSMR X? It should really take them to new heights? Now these aren't staying on the EW200, but going on the OD200 to assist in improving the fit, due to the short nozzles on the OD200. So until I can order some more, and I'll probably order 2 more sets of 3, they will sit firm on my OD200, EA1000, and Wu Zetian. Thanks for the heads up, DS. These will become my new favorite tips, along with the spiral dots, and pair with most of my IEMS!
They come in black and orange. I got the blacks.
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Try the orange ones too. They don’t sound the same, and in my opinion the orange ones are even better.
Just wanted to share some brief opinions on End game. I think I hit with the Elysian Anniliator 2023. Just such lovely trebble and natural sound. Also anyone remember Leo Nas? He got his fiio fx15
superuser1
Headphoneus Supremus
phew at last!!!Just wanted to share some brief opinions on End game. I think I hit with the Elysian Anniliator 2023. Just such lovely trebble and natural sound. Also anyone remember Leo Nas? He got his fiio fx15
o0genesis0o
Headphoneus Supremus
You have the Anni? DayumJust wanted to share some brief opinions on End game. I think I hit with the Elysian Anniliator 2023. Just such lovely trebble and natural sound. Also anyone remember Leo Nas? He got his fiio fx15
Campfire Ara (Ara) is pretty odd. Glad to hear that FX15 out performs it. FiiO is launching FX17 this year. The poor guy is going to be on a journey again
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Man y’all want some good stuff to test sets with check this group out. They have some amazing stuff but this song with my SR8s and those 14BA singing from the Topping NX7 is blowing my mind. The dynamics are incredible. Lots going on with a deep soundstage and average width
her name is not Jenny it's Judy!This was THE big issue with recent KZ as they refuse to apologize or even acknowledge the problem and always of counter attack mode.
that particular rep back then also attacking third party measurement complaints during AS16Pro where the third party measurement is different with the official one
That rep blame it on "uncalibrated-hobbygrade 711 is inaccurate compared to their pro tools"
The official one seems done with high current DAP/DAC (akin to Tri TK-2 which does replicate the offical graph) to get measurement
and turns out AS16pro will behave differently with less powerful "normal" player. only after some spats and discovery that they could get AS16pro to sound close official FR graph with some impedance adapter, KZ finally release the AS16Pro-HighImp version.
poops get worse with that rep during Duo as the rep thinks its good idea to fought Truthear fans and later out of nowhere decided to crap on Crin.
which causes even bigger drama than the original "Duo is clone to Zero" issue.
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Thankfully after some problem and loads of negativity thanks to that one dude,
KZ finally hires multiple different marketers who are less pissy about things.
we also got kz warranty lady, Jenny (only if you bought it from KZTWS.com or KZOfficialstore on ali mind you)
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I mean the original drama wasn't as big as... TangZu Shimin Li for example where after all the posing and all,
One guy (i think hifri), open up shimin li and found out that ShiminLi uses the exact driver with Wan'er, put it on metal shell and sell it for more than twice the price.
But TangZu quickly apologize, tried to do a repayment to some people who bought Shimin Li and its way better recieved by the fans and community.
tombrisbane
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I had three weeks to spend with five ‘ChiFi’ IEM’s, the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite (which I already own, so didn’t listen), Hidizs MP145, Yanyin Canon II, FiiO FH15, and 7hz Legato. Thanks to the awesome @Damz87 for organising 
and FiiO (FH15), Linsoul (Legato and Orchestra Lite) , and @Joe Bloggs (Yanyin).
I have many ChiFi IEM's myself, with all the Kiwi Ears except the original Orchestra, along with a few non ChiFi TOTL, and many midfi IEMs. Listening was done primarily through iPhone -> FiiO Q7 -> IEM using Tidal. I like everything and anything when it comes to music.
My experience with the lower end of the market is that they generally excel at one particular genre, midfi is more allrounder, then TOTL goes for allrounder or back to one particular genre. Let's see how these go.
Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite: I've had these for a while, they're exceptionally detailed for their price however they lack a cohesive sound so I don't find them overly enjoyable for just sitting down and relaxing. If I want to really hear a particular instrument in a track, or for gaming, I find these to be pretty good. Given my large collection these are not in rotation at all for my general listening, however they are sat next to my PS5 and do get used there whenever I'm not using a gaming headset. Not recommended for music, recommended for gaming.
7hz Legato: My review can be found here. In summary I found them to be very much a one trick bass pony. They are not the IEM for me, and I don’t think they’d be the IEM for most people. If you have some IEM’s already, and are after something bassy and not too expensive, maybe. They don't get a recommendation from me. They did excel with guitars for my ears, along with bass focussed tracks, however I found them quite intolerable for pretty much anything else.
FiiO FH15: I was looking forward to trying this out, I hadn't read anything however I've enjoyed some of the cheaper FiiO IEM's and thought they may do well with a more premium one. I was wrong. It's a 3BA, 1DD hybrid, nicely built, didn't come with it's full kit (so only the red filter was included), however from looking at graphs it doesn't appear to make a massive difference. Sound wise I found it to be below average, there is a focus on bass which leads to a muddy overall sound however once you’ve had them in your ears for a bit you get used to it, but it’s extremely obvious moving from a more balanced IEM to this one. There is an overall dampening to the sound which reminds me of what happens to my ears when I’ve been at a concert and my ears are starting to give up. Not completely horrible but not what I could recommend at the price point. I'm sure they weren't going for burnt out ears sound but once I figured out what it reminded me of the absolutely nailed it. I didn't find them particularly good with anything,
Hidizs MP145: 14.5mm planer IEM, comes with three different nozzles and three different tips. Should be enough to find something that you like, all up I do have a preference (rose gold nozzle and balanced tips) however this only got me to an acceptable sound. They don't do anything wrong but also don't do anything particularly amazing. I've since ended up with a free pair from a friend as the nozzles didn't work with his ears (they are quite big) and I give them an occasional listen. If you're after a mid priced planar they're not a bad option, but I think you can do better at this price point and would recommend Hidizs's own MS3 over the MP145. They're very neutral for a planar and excel with tracks where you want to hear detail (similar to the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite however they overall sound better for music than the Kiwi Ears). Vocals are decent and detailed.
Yanyin Canon II: I'd never heard on Yanyin before this. Had no idea what the price point was. I put these in after listening to the Legato and the FH15 and it was like coming home. Beautiful, musical, effortless sound. It's not an extremely detailed IEM, it's more akin to something like the 7th Acoustics Supernova, where you just pop it in your ears and get lost in the music. They were easily my favourite from the ChiFi tour, and I ended up buying a set. The packaging they come in is quite nice, you get a little leather case, and they also have some tuning switches. Both switches increase the bass (and only the bass), with my preference being Up Down, or both Up. I landed on Up Down as my preference. I found them to work with all music, and punching well above their price point. They're in my normal rotation now and have been getting a lot of ear time since they arrived. Highly recommended.
All up it was interesting to hear all of these side by side, Legato and FH15 do something different to the norm (and don't succeed for my ears, but I'm sure it works for some individuals, Legato I could almost own just for how it does guitar music), Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite works great for gaming but find them very lacking for most music, MP145 plays it extremely safe and I guess succeeds at that but I find it overall a little boring, and the Canon II was an amazing find for a musical IEM which I believe punches somewhere around double its price. The Canon II is the only one out of the five that I'd give a strong recommendation to, if you're after a cheaper IEM have a real good read of real users impressions (not so much reviews as a lot of them just hype everything up), or buy something like the Kiwi Ears Cadenza which is a great starting point and then figure out what you'd like more / less of.
and FiiO (FH15), Linsoul (Legato and Orchestra Lite) , and @Joe Bloggs (Yanyin).I have many ChiFi IEM's myself, with all the Kiwi Ears except the original Orchestra, along with a few non ChiFi TOTL, and many midfi IEMs. Listening was done primarily through iPhone -> FiiO Q7 -> IEM using Tidal. I like everything and anything when it comes to music.
My experience with the lower end of the market is that they generally excel at one particular genre, midfi is more allrounder, then TOTL goes for allrounder or back to one particular genre. Let's see how these go.
Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite: I've had these for a while, they're exceptionally detailed for their price however they lack a cohesive sound so I don't find them overly enjoyable for just sitting down and relaxing. If I want to really hear a particular instrument in a track, or for gaming, I find these to be pretty good. Given my large collection these are not in rotation at all for my general listening, however they are sat next to my PS5 and do get used there whenever I'm not using a gaming headset. Not recommended for music, recommended for gaming.
7hz Legato: My review can be found here. In summary I found them to be very much a one trick bass pony. They are not the IEM for me, and I don’t think they’d be the IEM for most people. If you have some IEM’s already, and are after something bassy and not too expensive, maybe. They don't get a recommendation from me. They did excel with guitars for my ears, along with bass focussed tracks, however I found them quite intolerable for pretty much anything else.
FiiO FH15: I was looking forward to trying this out, I hadn't read anything however I've enjoyed some of the cheaper FiiO IEM's and thought they may do well with a more premium one. I was wrong. It's a 3BA, 1DD hybrid, nicely built, didn't come with it's full kit (so only the red filter was included), however from looking at graphs it doesn't appear to make a massive difference. Sound wise I found it to be below average, there is a focus on bass which leads to a muddy overall sound however once you’ve had them in your ears for a bit you get used to it, but it’s extremely obvious moving from a more balanced IEM to this one. There is an overall dampening to the sound which reminds me of what happens to my ears when I’ve been at a concert and my ears are starting to give up. Not completely horrible but not what I could recommend at the price point. I'm sure they weren't going for burnt out ears sound but once I figured out what it reminded me of the absolutely nailed it. I didn't find them particularly good with anything,
Hidizs MP145: 14.5mm planer IEM, comes with three different nozzles and three different tips. Should be enough to find something that you like, all up I do have a preference (rose gold nozzle and balanced tips) however this only got me to an acceptable sound. They don't do anything wrong but also don't do anything particularly amazing. I've since ended up with a free pair from a friend as the nozzles didn't work with his ears (they are quite big) and I give them an occasional listen. If you're after a mid priced planar they're not a bad option, but I think you can do better at this price point and would recommend Hidizs's own MS3 over the MP145. They're very neutral for a planar and excel with tracks where you want to hear detail (similar to the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite however they overall sound better for music than the Kiwi Ears). Vocals are decent and detailed.
Yanyin Canon II: I'd never heard on Yanyin before this. Had no idea what the price point was. I put these in after listening to the Legato and the FH15 and it was like coming home. Beautiful, musical, effortless sound. It's not an extremely detailed IEM, it's more akin to something like the 7th Acoustics Supernova, where you just pop it in your ears and get lost in the music. They were easily my favourite from the ChiFi tour, and I ended up buying a set. The packaging they come in is quite nice, you get a little leather case, and they also have some tuning switches. Both switches increase the bass (and only the bass), with my preference being Up Down, or both Up. I landed on Up Down as my preference. I found them to work with all music, and punching well above their price point. They're in my normal rotation now and have been getting a lot of ear time since they arrived. Highly recommended.
All up it was interesting to hear all of these side by side, Legato and FH15 do something different to the norm (and don't succeed for my ears, but I'm sure it works for some individuals, Legato I could almost own just for how it does guitar music), Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite works great for gaming but find them very lacking for most music, MP145 plays it extremely safe and I guess succeeds at that but I find it overall a little boring, and the Canon II was an amazing find for a musical IEM which I believe punches somewhere around double its price. The Canon II is the only one out of the five that I'd give a strong recommendation to, if you're after a cheaper IEM have a real good read of real users impressions (not so much reviews as a lot of them just hype everything up), or buy something like the Kiwi Ears Cadenza which is a great starting point and then figure out what you'd like more / less of.
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o0genesis0o
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Shoot, did I forget to send the nozzles of FH15 in the package to Damz for the tour?I had three weeks to spend with five ‘ChiFi’ IEM’s, the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite (which I already own, so didn’t listen), Hidizs MP145, Yanyin Canon II, FiiO FH15, and 7hz Legato. Thanks to the awesome @Damz87 for organising
I have many ChiFi IEM's myself, with all the Kiwi Ears except the original Orchestra, along with a few non ChiFi TOTL, and many midfi IEMs. Listening was done primarily through iPhone -> FiiO Q7 -> IEM using Tidal. I like everything and anything when it comes to music.
My experience with the lower end of the market is that they generally excel at one particular genre, midfi is more allrounder, then TOTL goes for allrounder or back to one particular genre. Let's see how these go.
Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite: I've had these for a while, they're exceptionally detailed for their price however they lack a cohesive sound so I don't find them overly enjoyable for just sitting down and relaxing. If I want to really hear a particular instrument in a track, or for gaming, I find these to be pretty good. Given my large collection these are not in rotation at all for my general listening, however they are sat next to my PS5 and do get used there whenever I'm not using a gaming headset. Not recommended for music, recommended for gaming.
7hz Legato: My review can be found here. In summary I found them to be very much a one trick bass pony. They are not the IEM for me, and I don’t think they’d be the IEM for most people. If you have some IEM’s already, and are after something bassy and not too expensive, maybe. They don't get a recommendation from me. They did excel with guitars for my ears, along with bass focussed tracks, however I found them quite intolerable for pretty much anything else.
FiiO FH15: I was looking forward to trying this out, I hadn't read anything however I've enjoyed some of the cheaper FiiO IEM's and thought they may do well with a more premium one. I was wrong. It's a 3BA, 1DD hybrid, nicely built, didn't come with it's full kit (so only the red filter was included), however from looking at graphs it doesn't appear to make a massive difference. Sound wise I found it to be below average, there is a focus on bass which leads to a muddy overall sound however once you’ve had them in your ears for a bit you get used to it, but it’s extremely obvious moving from a more balanced IEM to this one. There is an overall dampening to the sound which reminds me of what happens to my ears when I’ve been at a concert and my ears are starting to give up. Not completely horrible but not what I could recommend at the price point. I'm sure they weren't going for burnt out ears sound but once I figured out what it reminded me of the absolutely nailed it. I didn't find them particularly good with anything,
Hidizs MP145: 14.5mm planer IEM, comes with three different nozzles and three different tips. Should be enough to find something that you like, all up I do have a preference (rose gold nozzle and balanced tips) however this only got me to an acceptable sound. They don't do anything wrong but also don't do anything particularly amazing. I've since ended up with a free pair from a friend as the nozzles didn't work with his ears (they are quite big) and I give them an occasional listen. If you're after a mid priced planar they're not a bad option, but I think you can do better at this price point and would recommend Hidizs's own MS3 over the MP145. They're very neutral for a planar and excel with tracks where you want to hear detail (similar to the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite however they overall sound better for music than the Kiwi Ears). Vocals are decent and detailed.
Yanyin Canon II: I'd never heard on Yanyin before this. Had no idea what the price point was. I put these in after listening to the Legato and the FH15 and it was like coming home. Beautiful, musical, effortless sound. It's not an extremely detailed IEM, it's more akin to something like the 7th Acoustics Supernova, where you just pop it in your ears and get lost in the music. They were easily my favourite from the ChiFi tour, and I ended up buying a set. The packaging they come in is quite nice, you get a little leather case, and they also have some tuning switches. Both switches increase the bass (and only the bass), with my preference being Up Down, or both Up. I landed on Up Down as my preference. I found them to work with all music, and punching well above their price point. They're in my normal rotation now and have been getting a lot of ear time since they arrived. Highly recommended.
All up it was interesting to hear all of these side by side, Legato and FH15 do something different to the norm (and don't succeed for my ears, but I'm sure it works for some individuals, Legato I could almost own just for how it does guitar music), Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite works great for gaming but find them very lacking for most music, MP145 plays it extremely safe and I guess succeeds at that but I find it overall a little boring, and the Canon II was an amazing find for a musical IEM which I believe punches somewhere around double its price. The Canon II is the only one out of the five that I'd give a strong recommendation to, if you're after a cheaper IEM have a real good read of real users impressions (not so much reviews as a lot of them just hype everything up), or buy something like the Kiwi Ears Cadenza which is a great starting point and then figure out what you'd like more / less of.
tombrisbane
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Yeah I think so, they weren't in the package I got.
