The discovery thread!

[requal]

No, you're not wrong.
I've had them in my Aliexpress cart for many months.
I was excited by the idea of the BA+PLANAR mix (even if it was one of those non-classical planars), given that at the time there was no talk of QUINTET yet.

There is also a review of Akros, but only part 1, and I have never managed to find part 2.

This fact together with the perception (my personal one) that he was not too convinced of the product, made me give up (I usually bite like a fish when there are these 'strange' driver configurations).

Then, for God's sake, maybe it's a fantastic IEM like the 41t... but you'll find many reviews of that, almost all enthusiastic.
Not this one.

Ah, I see now. I suggested that only one piece has been sold so far.

 

[Ferdinando1968]

Ah, I see now. I suggested that only one piece has been sold so far.

It's ok. Suggesting is not a crime.
If it cost a little less I would have taken it... but for a little more there is the 41t, which is a sure hit, and for much less there is the CLEAR, which I haven't personally tried, but I've heard good things about it.
And then a thousand others.

 

[WAON303]

No, you're not wrong.
I've had them in my Aliexpress cart for many months.
I was excited by the idea of the BA+PLANAR mix (even if it was one of those non-classical planars), given that at the time there was no talk of QUINTET yet.

There is also a review of Akros, but only part 1, and I have never managed to find part 2.

This fact together with the perception (my personal one) that he was not too convinced of the product, made me give up (I usually bite like a fish when there are these 'strange' driver configurations).

Then, for God's sake, maybe it's a fantastic IEM like the 41t... but you'll find many reviews of that, almost all enthusiastic.
Not this one.

What advantage do you get by meshing BAs with planars?

Aren't planars better than BAs at lower prices?

 

[PROblemdetected]

Uh-oh, Hidizs was exposed by someone on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones...majority_of_hidiz_hype_is_manufactured_using/

‍

 

[PhonoPhi]

What advantage do you get by meshing BAs with planars?

Aren't planars better than BAs at lower prices?

It is a bit of a question similar to what is better: apples or pears?

BAs are good for fast transients but typically have a limited frequency range.
Planars also have fast transients, although different - many mention planar "sheen" of larger planar drives.

SPDs and similar smaller planar drives, e.g. "planar dynamic drive" (PDD) that A&K used in Zero, or similar one in 1 More Penta, have more limited spectral range, e.g. used mostly for treble similar to BAs. PDD actually look very similar to BAs, so the difference is getting smaller.

No, you're not wrong.
I've had them in my Aliexpress cart for many months.
I was excited by the idea of the BA+PLANAR mix (even if it was one of those non-classical planars), given that at the time there was no talk of QUINTET yet.

There is also a review of Akros, but only part 1, and I have never managed to find part 2.

This fact together with the perception (my personal one) that he was not too convinced of the product, made me give up (I usually bite like a fish when there are these 'strange' driver configurations).

Then, for God's sake, maybe it's a fantastic IEM like the 41t... but you'll find many reviews of that, almost all enthusiastic.
Not this one.

Another SPD + BA was Celest Gumiho, and quite nice one, their smooth BA and SPD working out most of the range. I really enjoyed it, and revisit time to time for lighter and relaxed yet still engaging in details rendering. Not for bassheads though - both drivers did not push much air for any viceral impact.

Then Celest did that scaredly looking Pandemon-something ((the aesthetics was totally no-no for me even to bother remembering the name)). where their next generation of SPDs was adapted to do an entire range.

Then I could not help ordering their recent tribrid "Phoenixcall" with a DD (low) + 2BAs (mids) + 2SPDs (highs).
I am looking forward even more than IEM itself to their beautiful art, packaging, unboxing and especially thatt nice bookmark
I named this IEM after one of classical composers in my book of jungles.

P.S. Edited for typos (at least no AI is involved...)

 

[Redcarmoose]

Unfortunately I don't recall that I actually provided an opinion as to where my system of beliefs stand on this question... Not entirely sure why you are pushing the 'Us' vs 'Them' (believer vs non-believer) narrative here as it actually has no relevance to what has been said - ie how can you subjectively believe in something you admit to not even trying yet...?

Further, it was in fact yourself, a self-professed subjective believer, who was asking for reports to be provided

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There is quite a difference as I explained previous and probably testiment to that is that the majority do not:
Include price
Link to stores
Link to specific stores
Post entire marketing pieces
Make marketing pieces appear as genuine member posts
Defend marketing pieces in the absense of scientific evidence or personal subjective experience
...
A simple scroll back over the last 10 pages can show that through links provided by other esteemed HF members such as @Leonarfd or @baskingshark

Again I am sure you are aware of this difference as you have always struck me as an intelligent individual who is aware of how comments can be perceived or hype generated.

I would point you back to your demands for studies to prove 'facts' and to your own comments to @Uprox

This inconsistency is exactly the issue I was speaking to previously. Surely given your penchant for prose as holder of HF's most verbose reviews you have to understand that you cannot use the word "fact" here then drape it in objective or subjective connotative clothing as you see fit, yet demand a different standard elsewhere when it suits.

So in fixing the above comment for you:

Kenyon​

"There is quite a difference as I explained previous and probably testiment to that is that the majority do not:
Include price
Link to stores
Link to specific stores
Post entire marketing pieces
Make marketing pieces appear as genuine member posts
Defend marketing pieces in the absense of scientific evidence or personal subjective experience
...
A simple scroll back over the last 10 pages can show that through links provided by other esteemed HF members such as @Leonarfd or @baskingshark"

Don't know why you have it out for me? In fact after your post this post was noted as I was checking my "likes" and instantly came upon an example that is parallel to my posts. So? My posts are no different?

Kenyon​

"Unfortunately I don't recall that I actually provided an opinion as to where my system of beliefs stand on this question... Not entirely sure why you are pushing the 'Us' vs 'Them' (believer vs non-believer) narrative here as it actually has no relevance to what has been said - ie how can you subjectively believe in something you admit to not even trying yet...?

Further, it was in fact yourself, a self-professed subjective believer, who was asking for reports to be provided"

Kenyon​

Defend marketing pieces in the absense of scientific evidence or personal subjective experience


LoL.........Truly I was being polite. As there is always one stance as far as cables go that a member holds. Be it the non-believer, the kinda-believer or the believer.
A member posted a statement that the rhodium plugs damaged the receiver terminals on DAPs and I asked for some written example? Do you not see how this is someone learning? Is that really that bad of a thing? It has nothing to do with me being a subjectivist or objectivist? It is simple common sense. Like something everyone does everyday?

Kenyon​

"Make marketing pieces appear as genuine member posts"

Again I apologized twice for the original post being confusing and I agree, it was confusing. But it was corrected by placing the marketing talk with green text shortly after it was originally posted, and you helped me realize the confusion.

 

[bschnell9]

Unfortunately I don't recall that I actually provided an opinion as to where my system of beliefs stand on this question... Not entirely sure why you are pushing the 'Us' vs 'Them' (believer vs non-believer) narrative here as it actually has no relevance to what has been said - ie how can you subjectively believe in something you admit to not even trying yet...?

Further, it was in fact yourself, a self-professed subjective believer, who was asking for reports to be provided

-------------------------------------------------

There is quite a difference as I explained previous and probably testiment to that is that the majority do not:
Include price
Link to stores
Link to specific stores
Post entire marketing pieces
Make marketing pieces appear as genuine member posts
Defend marketing pieces in the absense of scientific evidence or personal subjective experience
...
A simple scroll back over the last 10 pages can show that through links provided by other esteemed HF members such as @Leonarfd or @baskingshark

Again I am sure you are aware of this difference as you have always struck me as an intelligent individual who is aware of how comments can be perceived or hype generated.

I would point you back to your demands for studies to prove 'facts' and to your own comments to @Uprox

This inconsistency is exactly the issue I was speaking to previously. Surely given your penchant for prose as holder of HF's most verbose reviews you have to understand that you cannot use the word "fact" here then drape it in objective or subjective connotative clothing as you see fit, yet demand a different standard elsewhere when it suits.

So in fixing the above comment for you:

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

It's really difficult going from the IE600 to the Wu Zetian, though I love the Wu's technicalities and ability to present minutiae, with decent bass presence, but the planar timbre really becomes noticeable. Makes rock and metal sound a bit off, but this is coming from the IE600, which has excellent timbre and tonal qualities, as it's a single DD.

 

[xmems]

The only thing I've been wondering lately in regards to MEMs and Planar when people talk about speed is "how fast do you really need a driver to be"

If a dynamic driver or BA can accurately reply any given sound how does a faster driver help the musical playback at all?

Instead of speed, think about waveform level fidelity... instead of just frequency domain fidelity

Last time I checked we human beings are time domain beings rather than frequency domain being, but surprisingly, speaker and headphones have been measured mostly in frequency domain only.

 

[Redcarmoose]

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[Redcarmoose]

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[o0genesis0o]

Uh-oh, Hidizs was exposed by someone on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones...majority_of_hidiz_hype_is_manufactured_using/

I can see something like this happen, given the strong(er) push from Hidizs marketing this year. Not cool, Hidizs, not cool. Hi-Fri did and teardown of the MS5 and found that it is well built with expensive components and complex construction techniques. The MS3 was well tuned (according to others, I haven’t listened to that), the planar one is apparently good. So they can build good stuffs. There is no need for this kind of thing that would just backfire. All of the good aspects would be gone.

(On the other hand, time to update the aging AP80 Pro X. There is such a gulf in SQ between that one and newer micro DAPs)

 

[o0genesis0o]

Yes, so adding a higher impedance damper will make it harder to drive.

Some IEMs have a knowles damper inside the housing of the shell. So if u add one of these aftermarket knowles filter into the nozzle, it is additive in damping (add the stock damper XX ohms + whatever damper u put into the nozzle).

Others who are more adventurous have tried removing the stock damper of the IEM and put their aftermarket damper inside (I haven't tried this personally, afraid of accidentally damaging something).

I noticed recently that most BA sets renowned for “technical performance” are darn hard to drive (Helios, Meteor, Diva 2023, MACH10). I wonder if there is correlation there.

 

[InvisibleInk]

I can see something like this happen, given the strong(er) push from Hidizs marketing this year. Not cool, Hidizs, not cool. Hi-Fri did and teardown of the MS5 and found that it is well built with expensive components and complex construction techniques. The MS3 was well tuned (according to others, I haven’t listened to that), the planar one is apparently good. So they can build good stuffs. There is no need for this kind of thing that would just backfire. All of the good aspects would be gone.

(On the other hand, time to update the aging AP80 Pro X. There is such a gulf in SQ between that one and newer micro DAPs)

Welcome to the brave new world of AI bot comments, with Hidizs leading the way.

 

[Redcarmoose]

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