Feb 16, 2023 at 10:05 PM Post #72,526 of 152,481
For budget set I also agree but for TOTL sets that came with high price, customers will be turned off with "too small and too simple" packaging.
Just curious, did you throw all your IEM boxes? because I keep all boxes and my cupboard is fully occupied with IEM boxes now and I dunno where to store later on. Buying new cupboard will trigger wife's suspect to me
I keep most of mine in cupboard, at least the one that still with me as i tend to give away the budget set if i got new one.
especially now we have waifu box :D
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but some packaging does feel wasteful,
i remember auglamour RT1 that came with metal eartip comb-like holder that barely useful, minibrush, steel plate of auglamour logo, and others.
it was like $50 in usd, but i got for $36 or something.
 
Feb 16, 2023 at 10:28 PM Post #72,527 of 152,481
The original was muddy, had a boring tuning and was pretty blurry sounding. Seems like they addressed the sloppy tune but I doubt the details and air are improved. I’m still keeping my eye on it though if only because the original has such a nice metal case.

Yeah I felt the original Shimin Li was meh. Shouty upper mids, early upper treble roll off and one-noted undefined bass. Graphs looked good though, but therein graphs don't tell the full story.

Hopefully this collab version fixes the predecessor's issues.

Some $13 ones too😄 I’d get one once it fall below $10 simply just for it’s hardcase!


US $13.32 KZ LingLong In Ear
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtu4IZg

$5 case + $5 nicely tuned bullet is a nice pair.

Bro, the KZ hardcase is around $2 USD actually. Maybe can be cheaper if you stack coins or buy multiples. I have 10 of em at home hahaha.

But therein, the Ling Long is probably $10 - 11 if u take away the cost of the KZ hardcase.

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For budget set I also agree but for TOTL sets that came with high price, customers will be turned off with "too small and too simple" packaging.
Just curious, did you throw all your IEM boxes? because I keep all boxes and my cupboard is fully occupied with IEM boxes now and I dunno where to store later on. Buying new cupboard will trigger wife's suspect to me

I don't sell away review units (just my own ethics), but I always keep the boxes of self-purchased IEMs in case I need to sell them away.

I usually sell away meh IEMs and keep benchmark pairs for comparisons. So the sold gear is useful to buy more second hand IEMs (sometimes you can get them at 30 - 50% of original price!), so the hobby can kind of perpetuate and feed itself.
 
Feb 16, 2023 at 10:30 PM Post #72,528 of 152,481
Feb 16, 2023 at 11:23 PM Post #72,530 of 152,481
Yeah I felt the original Shimin Li was meh. Shouty upper mids, early upper treble roll off and one-noted undefined bass. Graphs looked good though, but therein graphs don't tell the full story.

Hopefully this collab version fixes the predecessor's issues.



Bro, the KZ hardcase is around $2 USD actually. Maybe can be cheaper if you stack coins or buy multiples. I have 10 of em at home hahaha.

But therein, the Ling Long is probably $10 - 11 if u take away the cost of the KZ hardcase.





I don't sell away review units (just my own ethics), but I always keep the boxes of self-purchased IEMs in case I need to sell them away.

I usually sell away meh IEMs and keep benchmark pairs for comparisons. So the sold gear is useful to buy more second hand IEMs (sometimes you can get them at 30 - 50% of original price!), so the hobby can kind of perpetuate and feed itself.
Yea but they charge $4/box for shipping to US, I tried to order 20 of them and they charged $40 for box and $80 for shipping🤯 If there are really $2/box one, I’d probably order 20 or 30 of them for sure!

I just skimmed through evey single of them and found one store charges reasonavle shipping charge!

US $2.38
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtyrGn4
20 box for $47 and $7 for shipping via bad reputation shipper Cainiao
 
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Feb 16, 2023 at 11:51 PM Post #72,531 of 152,481
They are not wrong about micro drivers. The ones that Final audio uses have very good control in the high treble region (but few notice it due to the gigabass or banshee screaming upper mid)



I think those IEMs are not “neutral”. If the music is mixed with bass, and there is no bass, then the IEM is tuned with deficit in bass, not “neutral bass”. Because IEMs bypass the body effect, they should have boosted bass response to compensate. When I think of “neutral”, I think of Harman-ish with extra high treble energy (as per Knowles recent research)



So, Monarch I, not II?

I have a similar personal tier list. There is no better way to gauge the true opinion of a reviewer than what they personally use, IMHO. I’m thinking about adding that kind of update once in a while (not that I have followers who care about that :dt880smile: )
The modern DAPs have amp that generally add extra bass weight on top of IEM-native FR, even for KBEAR Neon the Ety flat, gets some bass weight, not to mention already emphasized ones. If the dead flat bass goes without amps, I can agree that’s less than neutral and more of compensated approch🤔

The Monarch II is too expensive and I don’t like the face plate (same applies to AFUL P5), It’s full of glitters in orange, not my taste😩. My friend got Monarch, then got Monarch II and bailed out from IEM rabbit hole since then, so I know that’s good, but ahhh I can’t take the faceplate design of it as an endgame material.

Sometime I bring IEMs to my office and letting them trying (and hoping to influence them into rabbit hole; of which many did). That glittering flame Lava, face plate, I’m gonna be hesitated to bring it to public place.. Just not my taste.
 
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Feb 16, 2023 at 11:55 PM Post #72,532 of 152,481
Sometime I bring IEMs to my office and letting them trying (and hoping to influence them into rabbit hole; of which many did). That glittering flame Lava, face plate, I’m gonna be hesitated to bring it to public place.. Just not my taste.

Wow you are lucky that your friends are still interested in wired gear. Everywhere i walk, in subways, malls etc, 90% of people are using wireless stuff.

Everytime I try to expose relatives and colleagues to the wonderful world of CHIFI IEMs (good price to performance ratio!), they only are into TWS stuff and apple pods, and decline trying out wired IEMs. One relative didn't even know how to plug the IEM into his phone (to be fair, his was an apple phone without 3.5mm jack haha).

I have a feeling, audiophiles who are into wired gear, and those of us who debate about amps/dacs and graphs, are truly a dying breed.
 
Feb 17, 2023 at 12:02 AM Post #72,533 of 152,481
I don't sell away review units (just my own ethics), but I always keep the boxes of self-purchased IEMs in case I need to sell them away.

Yeah, I don’t sell review units. I remember a reviewer usually says that samples are long-term loaned units by manufacturers, not his possession. I take the same approach.

Boxes though. All of them to the recycle bin :dt880smile: I only keep boxes of the samples that I haven’t reviewed as backlog.

The Monarch II is too expensive and I don’t like the face plate (same applies to AFUL P5), It’s full of glitters in orange, not my taste😩

Can confirm that P5 looks nearly identical to Monarch II in real life. The black part is not as shiny as the real one though. I find the lava faceplates so mesmerising to look at.

Photos do not show their 3D design clearly.

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Btw, if you have HS18 tips from Fiio, use them with P5 to tighten up the bass. I love how these sound, but not the size of their soundstage.
 
Feb 17, 2023 at 12:07 AM Post #72,534 of 152,481
@AmericanSpirit Can you compare Titan S with Hexa? Hexa is more detailed, or not? Which is less fatiguing? And which one you'd choose for your preferences?
 
Feb 17, 2023 at 12:12 AM Post #72,535 of 152,481
Wow you are lucky that your friends are still interested in wired gear. Everywhere i walk, in subways, malls etc, 90% of people are using wireless stuff.

Everytime I try to expose relatives and colleagues to the wonderful world of CHIFI IEMs (good price to performance ratio!), they only are into TWS stuff and apple pods, and decline trying out wired IEMs. One relative didn't even know how to plug the IEM into his phone (to be fair, his was an apple phone without 3.5mm jack haha).

I have a feeling, audiophiles who are into wired gear, and those of us who debate about amps/dacs and graphs, are truly a dying breed.
LIKE ICE (Internal Combustion Engine), EU set deadline to 2035. No new horse powered German-engineered cars from there😥 My another hobby will end at that point too. I have zero interest in driving toy-electric RC cars by myself without breathing horse.

We are lucky that no Government rules setting dead-locks for wired Headphones/IEMs😆
Yeah, I don’t sell review units. I remember a reviewer usually says that samples are long-term loaned units by manufacturers, not his possession. I take the same approach.

Boxes though. All of them to the recycle bin :dt880smile: I only keep boxes of the samples that I haven’t reviewed as backlog.



Can confirm that P5 looks nearly identical to Monarch II in real life. The black part is not as shiny as the real one though. I find the lava faceplates so mesmerising to look at.

Photos do not show their 3D design clearly.



Btw, if you have HS18 tips from Fiio, use them with P5 to tighten up the bass. I love how these sound, but not the size of their soundstage.
It’s just the personal taste thing, too gorgeous look for me I guess.

Thanks! And HS18 is exactly what I‘m paring with P5😄
 
Feb 17, 2023 at 12:20 AM Post #72,536 of 152,481
@AmericanSpirit Can you compare Titan S with Hexa? Hexa is more detailed, or not? Which is less fatiguing? And which one you'd choose for your preferences?
Technicality wise HEXA is far above Titan S, in terms of resolution, imaging, and transient response speed.

Timbre wise HEXA is more solid, meanwhile Titan S has some soft touch remained (some colorations) Making it sounding richer.

Both are greatly tuned IEMs, and if you are going to use it over 3 hours, I’d choose HEXA with low volume, as in general Dynamic Driver IEMs do move air and deliver higher energy sound waves, in a long term it will be fatigue causing. You see many state monitors are mostly BA based, that’s another reason besides accuracy.

I like both Titan S and HEXA, and my preference is HEXA for its Bruce-Lee like speed x energy lean combo.
 
Feb 17, 2023 at 12:22 AM Post #72,537 of 152,481
Feb 17, 2023 at 1:21 AM Post #72,538 of 152,481
Technicality wise HEXA is far above Titan S, in terms of resolution, imaging, and transient response speed.

Timbre wise HEXA is more solid, meanwhile Titan S has some soft touch remained (some colorations) Making it sounding richer.

Both are greatly tuned IEMs, and if you are going to use it over 3 hours, I’d choose HEXA with low volume, as in general Dynamic Driver IEMs do move air and deliver higher energy sound waves, in a long term it will be fatigue causing. You see many state monitors are mostly BA based, that’s another reason besides accuracy.

I like both Titan S and HEXA, and my preference is HEXA for its Bruce-Lee like speed x energy lean combo.
The hexa is that good? Interesting. How is the soundstage depth and 3D imaging? Can it match the P5?
 
Feb 17, 2023 at 1:45 AM Post #72,539 of 152,481
I think the ie200 is gonna be more like ‘balanced’ but not neutral, it’s still a slight v-shape since the lower treble sits higher/same level as the upper mid peak.
Nah. The IE200 treble is too blunted to be V shaped. I tried to like it, and in some ways I do, but the IE100 Pro just has such superior treble
extension, that it gives the impression of better resolution. The sound is most definitely balanced, but not neutral at all.
 
Feb 17, 2023 at 1:57 AM Post #72,540 of 152,481
Wow you are lucky that your friends are still interested in wired gear. Everywhere i walk, in subways, malls etc, 90% of people are using wireless stuff.

Everytime I try to expose relatives and colleagues to the wonderful world of CHIFI IEMs (good price to performance ratio!), they only are into TWS stuff and apple pods, and decline trying out wired IEMs. One relative didn't even know how to plug the IEM into his phone (to be fair, his was an apple phone without 3.5mm jack haha).

I have a feeling, audiophiles who are into wired gear, and those of us who debate about amps/dacs and graphs, are truly a dying breed.
also most of the general public are also sheep too..they would never venture into wired IEMs because their whole world is centered on Bluetooth and hands-free life from the car, to their home soundbars to their earbuds. To me, people are less prone to go the hifi route than my father's generation it seems. When I too let relatives listen to my cans or items, they love the experience---but not enough to dive into the hobby. The closest the average Joes almost crossed into the audiophile sphere is when the Audio-Technica m50x was everywhere about 7-8 ears ago...then after awhile, some became audiophiles--while many crossed into the earbud life. It's a weird disconnect like that right now.
 
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