The discovery thread!
May 28, 2018 at 1:05 AM Post #36,392 of 101,441
Oh yea. We don't discriminate. You are doing fine. You definitely get your point across. It is more fun to participate in an active thread vs just reading no?

In any case it is good to break the silence. I hope more newer members that read participate more. It is always nice to see new guys and old on the thread here.
 
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May 28, 2018 at 1:20 AM Post #36,393 of 101,441
Ohho Sorry about that. I think I read too many comments and assumed that you had issues with pioneer and hk6.

I have to say I really like pioneer xdp30r balanced mode. ACG and normal balanced both sounds awesome. I think it would sound really great on 300r as well.

Forgot about ACG. I just leave in Bal, gonna go try it.

@Dsnuts, yeah I just always use the JLab track. Gonna throw on regular music tomorrow.
 
May 28, 2018 at 1:52 AM Post #36,394 of 101,441
Don't know if it might help somebody, but my HK6 were picky about the sources (probably also about tips, but since I went directly to the Spiral Dots, I did not experience any variations), sounding way better balanced from the Shanling M3s than from the Sony 300a. I liked how they sounded on the Shanling M3s from the very beginning, so I put them on burn in there. I know this may sound a bit crazy, but my personal experience with burn in is that things at the very beginning give a good inkling of how they will sound towards the end of the burn in. Then things fluctuate, usually sounding worse, and then get to a point at which they are stable. With the HK6, after the first day, and even after around 200 hours, I did not like how they sounded, even on the M3s. They did sound a bit muddy, and congested (and my memory said they did not sound that way, at the beginning). So I left them on burn in some more. After 350 hours they are way better, no muddiness that I can hear. And memory (which can be very tricky, though, since around 2 weeks passed) tells me they sound better than at the very beginning.

So, to those who have them and don't like the current sound, my advice would be to really cook them in, before throwing the towel on them :).

On a different, more cautionary, note, I'll share that I was an idiot, and quite likely ruined my M3s yesterday... I had trouble ejecting the micro SD card, but finally managed. Then, when I went to put another one back in, SOMEHOW, the new one managed to get inserted, through the (VERY narrow) slot in the chassis, not in its proper place (the thing that clicks and holds the SD card when you push it in - its "sled"?), but probably below it, and it's impossible to fish it out (tried tweezers from the swiss army knife - slot is too narrow to allow them to open and grab, once inside - and tweaking with a needle point trying to coax it out). So now I have a brick without music, and I'm out a 256GB micro SD. I would have thought that that was (or should have been) impossible.....
 
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May 28, 2018 at 4:34 AM Post #36,395 of 101,441
Just a thought. I suppose a good warranty is especially important the more drivers you have. Risk of failure goes up no?
Could'nt find any warranty info for HK6 at the recommended store:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/201...ature-Detachable-Detach-MMCX/32855827580.html
Sent them a question about it. Let's see what they say.

The EU warranty of 2 years only covers items bought in EU. So what Aliexpress claims under Seller Guarantee is incorrect:
The seller must comply with other relevant requirements (guarantee, return, etc.) that may be applicable depending on your location as buyer. For instance, in most EU countries you are generally entitled to a 2-year legal conformity guarantee and 14-day free return (please note that in case of return, the buyer needs to cover the cost of returning the products to the seller).

So here is the warranty info. And I think they should put this warranty info publicly on their Aliexpress pages, but for some reason they don't. As you can see I didn't get an answer to that.

m NiceHCK
18/05/27 20:16
Does not contain human damage

Jim NiceHCK
18/05/27 20:16
Hi,Marko ,if products have any problem,contact us at any time,we promise to our buyers
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Sounds good. but where did you put this warranty information on Aliexpress? Couldn't find it anywhere.
Me
18/05/25 02:25
Jim NiceHCK
18/05/24 22:29
1 year,repair is free(but need ship to China)
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Ok. What is your warranty for this product?
 
May 28, 2018 at 4:36 AM Post #36,396 of 101,441
I have to say these comet are really Growing on me now.
I think I prefer this over the other iems.
Even though it has similarities with hk6, I have to say I have started liking this more than hk6 after some brain burn in.
It doesn't have too much boosted mid bass, but at the same time you get enough punch. There is good amount of details as well.
But if you are looking for dynamic driver level low end then this might not be the right choice.
Overall I feel this is a really great offering from campfire audio for 200 USD.
Also coming from campfire audio you wouldn't have much QC issues.
Being a single BA no coherence issues as well.
You don't have to worry about changing cable as they already provide decent cables.
You might have to play around with tips just to make sure you get good seal and something like spinfits can help bring out a little bit more bass.
So I feel in some ways this is a safer bet than hk6.

I'd love to try the comet, but being uk based suspect I might get stung by taxes. I think the straighter insertion instead of the over ear might be better for me.
 
May 28, 2018 at 4:38 AM Post #36,397 of 101,441
Don't know if it might help somebody, but my HK6 were picky about the sources (probably also about tips, but since I went directly to the Spiral Dots, I did not experience any variations), sounding way better balanced from the Shanling M3s than from the Sony 300a. I liked how they sounded on the Shanling M3s from the very beginning, so I put them on burn in there. I know this may sound a bit crazy, but my personal experience with burn in is that things at the very beginning give a good inkling of how they will sound towards the end of the burn in. Then things fluctuate, usually sounding worse, and then get to a point at which they are stable. With the HK6, after the first day, and even after around 200 hours, I did not like how they sounded, even on the M3s. They did sound a bit muddy, and congested (and my memory said they did not sound that way, at the beginning). So I left them on burn in some more. After 350 hours they are way better, no muddiness that I can hear. And memory (which can be very tricky, though, since around 2 weeks passed) tells me they sound better than at the very beginning.

So, to those who have them and don't like the current sound, my advice would be to really cook them in, before throwing the towel on them :).

On a different, more cautionary, note, I'll share that I was an idiot, and quite likely ruined my M3s yesterday... I had trouble ejecting the micro SD card, but finally managed. Then, when I went to put another one back in, SOMEHOW, the new one managed to get inserted, through the (VERY narrow) slot in the chassis, not in its proper place (the thing that clicks and holds the SD card when you push it in - its "sled"?), but probably below it, and it's impossible to fish it out (tried tweezers from the swiss army knife - slot is too narrow to allow them to open and grab, once inside - and tweaking with a needle point trying to coax it out). So now I have a brick without music, and I'm out a 256GB micro SD. I would have thought that that was (or should have been) impossible.....

Have you tried to take it to a local phone repair shop? They may well have more specialist tools or experience in getting stuck micro sd cards out. Got to be worth a try.
 
May 28, 2018 at 8:57 AM Post #36,399 of 101,441
Don't know if it might help somebody, but my HK6 were picky about the sources (probably also about tips, but since I went directly to the Spiral Dots, I did not experience any variations), sounding way better balanced from the Shanling M3s than from the Sony 300a. I liked how they sounded on the Shanling M3s from the very beginning, so I put them on burn in there. I know this may sound a bit crazy, but my personal experience with burn in is that things at the very beginning give a good inkling of how they will sound towards the end of the burn in. Then things fluctuate, usually sounding worse, and then get to a point at which they are stable. With the HK6, after the first day, and even after around 200 hours, I did not like how they sounded, even on the M3s. They did sound a bit muddy, and congested (and my memory said they did not sound that way, at the beginning). So I left them on burn in some more. After 350 hours they are way better, no muddiness that I can hear. And memory (which can be very tricky, though, since around 2 weeks passed) tells me they sound better than at the very beginning.

So, to those who have them and don't like the current sound, my advice would be to really cook them in, before throwing the towel on them :).

On a different, more cautionary, note, I'll share that I was an idiot, and quite likely ruined my M3s yesterday... I had trouble ejecting the micro SD card, but finally managed. Then, when I went to put another one back in, SOMEHOW, the new one managed to get inserted, through the (VERY narrow) slot in the chassis, not in its proper place (the thing that clicks and holds the SD card when you push it in - its "sled"?), but probably below it, and it's impossible to fish it out (tried tweezers from the swiss army knife - slot is too narrow to allow them to open and grab, once inside - and tweaking with a needle point trying to coax it out). So now I have a brick without music, and I'm out a 256GB micro SD. I would have thought that that was (or should have been) impossible.....
That is exactly what I did with my Walnut V3 I had to open it up to retrieve card
 
May 28, 2018 at 10:47 AM Post #36,401 of 101,441
You guys who say they are not forgiving IEMs. I hope that does not mean you play <128kbps mp3 :) That would of course not sound good.
It was only me saying and no, they are not 128kbps. Just bc a song is 320 or FLAC doesn't mean it's mixed and mastered properly. The HK6 will make a poorly mixed song even worse.
 
May 28, 2018 at 11:24 AM Post #36,402 of 101,441
@Dsnuts got it from Penon audio... guess a PM to Shanling here might give some (long-term) results, but it's gonna be a hassle, in any case... thing that really bothers me (which is why I called myself an idiot :)) is that I FELT that the micro SD was sliding in in a slightly strange way, not in the usual kind of way, where you can feel there's some sort of spring which is compressing, but I was on autopilot, and did not stop to think. The M3s would still probably be inoperable (no SD, no music, anyway), but I might be a 256GB card richer, at least, now :)

And the M3s looks like a bit of a tough nut to crack open myself @HungryPanda ... tried to look for some online info on how to open it (things like ifix it, say), but I did not find anything.
 
May 28, 2018 at 4:56 PM Post #36,403 of 101,441
Semkarch write up. https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/semkarch-cnt1.23130/reviews#review-20376 I got worked over from some headfiers in the past due to me meddling with tips and cables on a stock earphone so my views on these are from everything stock including the tips.

Lol. Nothing wrong with experimenting with different tips and cables. In fact I encourage it.

You bet I got them on a much nicer SPC balanced cable with wider tips now since I am done with the review.
 
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May 28, 2018 at 5:04 PM Post #36,405 of 101,441
So I asked Jim again if what drivers he has in the HK6. He is using Knowles and Chinese made BAs. Don't know which drivers does what but I bet this was how they got the HK6 to a more reasonable price.

I got confused from previously asking about his higher end semi customs. He told me those were made with all Knowles.
 

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