The discovery thread!

[avishifi]

It doesn't.

It if did, the effect would be measurable. So if you truly believe there is a difference, measure it and post the results.

If you can't measure it, it doesn't exist.

Well, technically it can
If the cable has high impedance, and your IEM is sensitive for these changes – then it indeed will change the sound.

But as you said – this change should be measureable.

 

[Vonbuddy]

MMKIV

Where did you see this?

 

[Inserthouse]

Where did you see this?

I got it via Xhttps://x.com/linsoul_audio/status/1930926175729402362?s=46

 

[AboveNBeyond]

Just went up. I hope it has decent tuning
https://aliexpress.com/item/3256809006932716.html?gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt

 

[nikbr]

It doesn't.

It if did, the effect would be measurable. So if you truly believe there is a difference, measure it and post the results.

If you can't measure it, it doesn't exist.

With this level of certainty you must be correct.

EVERYTHING in this world is a measurable metric and we know EVERYTHING about ANYTHING already.

My sarcasm is hardly measurable, but oh is it here.

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Full range 10mm DD accompanied with 2 BAs and another 8mm DD only focused on the lows.

 

[o0genesis0o]

So, I’m throwing stuffs away, and I have a question for NiceHck: what’s the purpose of this “accessory” in B80 earbuds box. It’s not a flimsy half-hearted print either. It’s laminated on thick cardboard

 

[SbassX]

An eternity, in the wild. Life and death is usually sub-2ms. I'm not shocked that human spatial audio processing works on these timescales

Exactly. When survival depends on locating a twig snap or a rustle in under 2ms, it makes total sense that our auditory system evolved to be insanely fast and precise

Quatio is on its way, and since Klean was one of the best budget things to ever bless my ears, expectations are high.
Wondering how Kefine price it, but I've got quite a few ~100-200€ sets at hand now that are marvelous, so competition won't be easy. Plus the DITA Prelude lurking and getting ever closer to being finished.

you're right...the €100–200 range is stacked right now with genuinely impressive sets. Quatio’s got its work cut out

Eniment ears emerald is finally out. Been really excited about this set since canjam SG.

Now in a quiet environment I can kind of understand why they reduced the price to 600usd/800sgd. The microdetail is slightly under kilobuck stuff and the sound stage is only ok.

That being said at 800sgd it's basically almost a steal.

The bass is the usual PET DD tambre. That means it has a slight bouncyness to it and subbass is only there. That being said combined with the bone conduction driver it adds alot of body and texture which is very satisfying. Quite different from the metal DDs I'm used to but it gives me a excuse to get this.

Vocals is where it truly shines. It has a slightly wet smooth tembre from the BA but the bone conduction gives quite abit of that dry texture for that ASMRness that I really like. Also the warmess makes both male and female vocals have quite abit of body while still being thin and precise.

Treble is very smooth while still being elevated. This makes edm(esp the more extreme genres) very nice to listen to since you can hear the roughness and speed of the Sawtooth but not get fatigued.

This smoothness of the top end can be a not so good thing as well as the physically of brass instruments takes a back seat and as such not as realistic.

That being said any mids focused instrument shines very nicely esp accoustic guitar where the plucks and strums resonate deep within the chest.

Overall it's very good but it's clearly tuned for musicality first so some of the microdetails are lost for a very cohesive and semi relaxing iem.

The way you said it handles EDM caught my attention. Getting that sawtooth aggression without fatigue is not easy, so kudos to Eniment for dialing that in.

 

[nikbr]

Breaking News! America, rejoice!
Germany, not yet, but getting there ...

Also, they had a poll asking what potential customers would prefer, 20% OFF or something else, and people unanimously chose 20% OFF.

 

[jbfps116]

Starting the rating process for the Shanling Tino and ivipQ Q-09 [Phoenixia]
So far, it's quite apparent that the Q-09 is a similar sound signature [lightly warm and lush] but more competent in the treble, with beautiful vocals. But the Tino seems a lesser quality set in almost all aspects compared to the Q-09.

 

[Kordonrules]

Breaking News! America, rejoice!
Germany, not yet, but getting there ...

Also, they had a poll asking what potential customers would prefer, 20% OFF or something else, and people unanimously chose 20% OFF.

Where to buy?

 

[Jamsblast]

You mean the IEM (V10 Pro), or the BA's? Bellsing (most likely).

At mid volumes the V10 pro is very nice, but as I said before, if you want it to shine put a tuning mesh unless you are treble deaf lol, because it is very spicy.

V10 Pro is much more relaxed in upper midrange then Trn Shell for example. This relaxed tuning is more appealing and even if Shell gives a fake resolution V10 Pro is better in longer session and probably will last longer in usage. And hf are just smooth. At least in my unit.

I haven't tried the Shell yet but I have the Jaws and, yes this is right (the more tolerable treble in the V10 pro), but I don't think it is better than the Jaws for longer sessions, with the Jaws I use EQ or mid volumes and let music burn lol...

It doesn't.

It if did, the effect would be measurable. So if you truly believe there is a difference, measure it and post the results.

If you can't measure it, it doesn't exist.

Word!

 

[requal]

At mid volumes the V10 pro is very nice, but as I said before, if you want it to shine put a tuning mesh unless you are treble deaf lol, because it is very spicy.

O haven't tried the Shell yet but i have the Jaws and, yes this is right (the more tolerable treble in the V10 pro), but I don't think it is better than the Jaws for longer sessions, with the Jaws i use EQ or mid volumes and let music burn lol...

Word!

For example much more spicy is Cvj Mermaid 2.
I believe I couldn't tolerate Jaws and for me v90 pro is definitely too hot. I'm this case: (better) V10 Pro >> v90 Pro (worse)

Maybe you just have bad seal. Sometimes people just put iems too shallow, using too big tips.

Edit: I don’t know why the ST7 performed so well, even though they looked weak on the graph. These V10 Pro perform even better, yet they don’t look spectacular either. If I had to rank my TRN hybrids, it would go like this: Shell >= V10 Pro > ST7 > VX Pro+ > V90 Pro (this one I wouldn't recommend)

 

[MakeItWain]

Never tried it.

My JDS Labs Atom+ is as neutral and uncolored as it gets. More than enough power for any IEM, too. I love it for both of those reasons.

Shame it's not a good match for the DX1, but the Atom+ remains my only source other than an iPhone 16, and I'm keeping it that way. I'm not spending money on sources when that scratch could go toward transducers. I feel the same way about cables, too.

But not tips. They're the most cost-effective, easiest way to tune IEM sound other than EQ, which I shy away from, too. I had my EQ phase in this hobby, but I abandoned it because I spent more time thinking about tiny tweaks across the 10-band spectrum than enjoying music.

I'm with you. If a headphone needs the warmth of second-order harmonics or the brightness of third-order harmonics to sound good, then it's probably not a great headphone to begin with. Don't get me wrong. I love me some sweet, sweet harmonic effects (just like I love me some well-executed EQ). Tube amps and EQ can make good headphones sound even better. But neither will ever make a bad headphone sound good IMO.

Along those lines, I recently sold my desktop OTL tube amp. Tube distortion can be very, very nice with the right headphones, but I couldn't justify the expense (not to mention the giant chunk of desktop real estate!) for what ultimately amounts to a minor tweak. EQ is free and much more effective. Like you, I'd rather put that money into the headphone fund.

My take: I listen on my Element IV for full neutral/lack of coloration on a set. Like the BrainDance, as example, where I could enjoy it as is. But, the Project M, not so much and likely the DX1 in this case too but we'll see. I'll roll tips that are typically less sibilant, etc. but I won't roll sources.

Once I've listened, done all my impressions in a row, I'll roll sources to find synergy so I can talk about it.

If a set needs coloration to become tolerable, it's not good to my subjective ears. If it's good and becomes great, fantastic.

But, not everyone will have those warmer sources/can roll warmer sources. Tips are easier to roll for the general consumer and easier to recommend (I should talk more about it in my videos now that I think about it) but sources are less so.

I do, however, cable roll as well but I'll mention that less so as that's a coloration to my ears that others may not hear or care to hear.

Published my review on Ruviest Audio Prelude, the new brand made by the AüR Audio tuner Abel. This is a 1DD + 6BA IEM, that has a colourful tuning that I bet many would love. Thick and strong bass with rich midrange, with extended highs to finish it off. It is more on the musical and fun side than being technical, but that is also why I love it. Never sibilant or sharp, it loves to be played at high volume but can also sound nice for a more silent session.

It is tough competition around $400 with all the great hybrid IEMs, but Prelude is one of the best ones for me with its pure musicality and fun. Can read all my thoughts in the review, with comparison to Arcanis and Meta.
Cheers

REVIEW HERE

Can check the Facebook page here, for the next batch information. Should be a new batch any day now.

Dang, that looks great.

just received the new ru9 and wow the sound is outstanding

Dang, that looks great too.

I hope so, mate! We'll see when more reviews turn up

In the meantime, guys I'm struggling really hard to understand Xenns Top Pro opinions. I'm talking specifically if this iem is good for rock and heavy metal. So much polarization man... For example Jays on his review said not really good for those genres, then I look at the comments and see someone says very good for those genres and he's happy. I've watch @Jaytiss review today and the same thing In comments where one trashes Top Pro and other guy praises for those genres. What is this polarization?! I hope for more reviews honestly cause my head hurts at this point...

It's all over the place since people have their own interpretation of how they want to enjoy music, haha. And what they want to have emphasized.

Thanks for the spoiler Multi Quote. I’m doing the same. hope you don’t mind. Easier for people to skip if they don’t want to expand. Looking forward to your reviews coming soon.

I'm never forgiving you.

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So, I've had a few things come in that I'm listening to. As an update.

It's pretty good. I'm not going all hyperbole or emojis on it, but it's pretty good. Lot of value.

Also have Campfire Audio Astrolith in for a brief stint, absolutely fun set for planar but definitely still enjoy FF Quantum more. Astrolith running on tubes/warmer source works out better but still is great as is.

Campfire Audio Alien Brain is also in, pretty dang guuud in this case. Fit is initially weird but big, bold sound with good mixture of warmth and technical performance.

 

[Jamsblast]

For example much more spicy is Cvj Mermaid 2.
I believe I couldn't tolerate Jaws and for me v90 pro is definitely too hot. I'm this case: (better) V10 Pro >> v90 Pro (worse)

Maybe you just have bad seal. Sometimes people just put iems too shallow, using too big tips.

Nope, I'm using M size Trn T eartips, nice seal nice fit .
(Well this is not the V10 Pro, but this ZA12 (Soon to be reviewed ) is a nice match with those eartips)

 

[requal]

I don't know if the TRN V10 Pro is at CCA Trio/KZ Vader Bal and ZVX Pro level but is pretty good, well, with mods, because without the tuning mesh I putted in it (200 density mesh) is a sibilant mess with that peak at 5khz...
I think the V10 pro is a hidden gem, but in fact I prefer to spend a little more to get the V90 Pro because that's the real upgrade to the ST7 before the Shell of course; it is spicy?, yes, but it handles the sibilance so much better than the V10 pro, and its tuning is more appealing to me, it have a remarkable quality bass and mids and better technicalities than the V10 pro

Nope, I'm using M size Trn T eartips, nice seal nice fit .
(Well this is not the V10 Pro, but this ZA12 (Soon to be reviewed ) is a nice match with those eartips)

I can't tolerate V90 Pro even with added two layers of 500 mesh. Even graph of V10 Pro looks better too.. and I still believe it's better then it looks. So maybe there's some other reason why you feel this more bothering.
There's always QC problems possible.